CA and NY Raise Minimum Wage to $15

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spizike231

spizike231

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Thoughts?

Apparently other states may start to follow suit.

California and New York acted Monday to gradually push their statewide minimum wages to $15 an hour -- the highest in the nation -- as Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders again seized on wage disparity and the plight of the working poor as a defining issue in the presidential race.

Clinton joined New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo as he signed the law that will gradually boost that state's pay rate and she predicted the movement will "sweep our country."

In a statement, Sanders said his campaign is about building on the steps in California and New York "so that everyone in this country can enjoy the dignity and basic economic security that comes from a living wage."

In Los Angeles, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill into law that will lift the statewide minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2022.

Together with New York, it marks the most ambitious moves yet to close the national divide between rich and poor. Experts say other states may follow, given Congress' reluctance to act despite entreaties from President Barack Obama.

"This is about economic justice. It's about people. It's about creating a little, tiny amount of balance in a system that every day becomes more unbalanced," Brown said before signing the bill at the Ronald Reagan State Building.

Republicans and business groups warn that the move could cost thousands of jobs, while a legislative analysis puts the cost to California taxpayers at $3.6 billion a year in higher pay for government employees.

A $15 base wage will have "devastating impacts on small businesses in California," Tom Scott, executive director of the state branch of the National Federation of Independent Business, said in a statement. "Ignoring the voices and concerns of the vast majority of job creators in this state is deeply concerning and illustrates why many feel Sacramento is broken."

Democrats who control the Legislature approved the increase Thursday, days after the agreement was announced. The measure passed with no Republican support.

The bill will bump the state's $10 hourly minimum by 50 cents next year and to $11 in 2018. Hourly $1 raises will then come every January until 2022, unless the governor imposes a delay during an economic recession. Businesses with 25 or fewer employees have an extra year to comply.

Wages will rise with inflation each year thereafter.

The Democratic governor negotiated the deal with labor unions to head off competing labor-backed ballot initiatives that would have imposed swifter increases with fewer safeguards.

About 2.2 million Californians now earn the minimum wage, but University of California, Irvine, economics professor David Neumark estimated the boost could cost 5 to 10 percent of low-skilled workers their jobs.

Brown has said California, with the world's eighth largest economy, can absorb the raises without the problems predicted by opponents.

California and Massachusetts currently have the highest statewide minimum wage at $10. Washington, D.C., stands at $10.50. Los Angeles, Seattle and other cities have recently approved $15 minimum wages, while Oregon officials plan to increase the minimum to $14.75 an hour in cities and $12.50 in rural areas by 2022.

New York's state budget includes gradually raising the $9 minimum wage to $15, starting in New York City in three years and phasing in at a lower level elsewhere. An eventual statewide increase to $15 would be tied to economic indicators such as inflation.
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This will take a few years to implement, so we'll see what shakes out then.
 
Are you guys saying it may fall apart or backfire in that time?

or do you think it'll work out in the end since it'll take time?
 
Both locations were pretty thoroughly discussed in this thread in terms of their outrageous costs of living and the availability of affordable housing. If you're on minimum wage, you're still going to have to live at home or with a roommate or several.
 
Only thing is
Well......
The Bay Area is already expensive
Minimum wage in Some cities is already like $13 almost $14
While rent is on the high side
Will they raise rent prices as well
While also limiting raises since minimum wage will essentially do that for them
Like will there be a wage freeze on raises so they dont have to give out more money
Like so once they hit that $15 that's it on raises
 
The state just passed a bill for Portland metro area to raise there minimum wage to $15. It's just gonna raise the already sky rocketing prices here just that much more I feel
 
CA and NY :lol:

like 15 bucks is gonna help with cost of living in those areas........



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DatZNasty said:
Both locations were pretty thoroughly discussed in this thread in terms of their outrageous costs of living and the availability of affordable housing. If you're on minimum wage, you're still going to have to live at home or with a roommate or several.
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I know, and this could have gone into the political thread too but I thought the topic itself deserved a thread of its own to discuss the pros and cons.
 
Kills me people want to focus on raising min wage for jobs adults shouldnt even be working instead of focusing on the creation of jobs that pay livable rages. All this will do is cause inflation like every other time min wage goes up and push for automation to come into play faster than it eventually was.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Kills me people want to focus on raising min wage for jobs adults shouldnt even be working instead of focusing on the creation of jobs that pay livable rages. All this will do is cause inflation like every other time min wage goes up and push for automation to come into play faster than it eventually was.
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Pretty much. When businesses begin paying higher wages either one of two things is going to happen to offset the expense increase. Rapid inflation or job cutbacks.
 
LuckyLuchiano said:
Kills me people want to focus on raising min wage for jobs adults shouldnt even be working instead of focusing on the creation of jobs that pay livable rages. All this will do is cause inflation like every other time min wage goes up and push for automation to come into play faster than it eventually was.
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This. I support the wage hike, but this is the real problem we need to talk about.
 
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spizike231 said:
 
ninjahood said:
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It'll probably have better customer service and be more accurate than the people who take it now.
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How hard is it to remember no pickles no onions? 
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LuckyLuchiano said:
Kills me people want to focus on raising min wage for jobs adults shouldnt even be working instead of focusing on the creation of jobs that pay livable rages. All this will do is cause inflation like every other time min wage goes up and push for automation to come into play faster than it eventually was.
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The Jerry Brown and the legislature more or less admitted it's a tax grab for the state when they included  a provision allowing the governor to postpone a wage increase in the event of an economic downturn

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article69842317.html#storylink=cpy

Not to mention that Jerry Brown has continually agreed that a raise to that level will be bad for people before the labor unions made him sign it.
“Economically, minimum wages may not make sense,” Brown said, according to the Sacramento Bee. But “[m]orally and socially and politically, they [minimum wages] make every sense because it binds the community together and makes sure that parents can take care of their kids in a much more satisfactory way.” - Jerry Brown, Gov. California
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/08/15-minimum-wage-poses-problem-for-this-democratic-governor/

There's a reason thousands of businesses are moving out of the state to Nevada, Arizona, & Texas and the union paid legislature doesn't even care.
 
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That's awesome I remember busting my *** all summer in SYEP for 6.75/hr

15 is def a livable wage and will cause more people to seek employment with less caveats
 
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Tx gonna be booming, cuz that's where all da companies are going once ya scared em away from expensive *** states :lol:
 
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