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Believe its 4 fights and that hurdle won't b cleared unless ufc is directly involved w fight
Mayweather VS Mcgregor official fight thread August 26th
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Believe its 4 fights and that hurdle won't b cleared unless ufc is directly involved w fight
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Why are you acting like the race factor doesn't make this fight more marketable?Not surprised in the slightest that NT is playing the race card again.
Funny considering it's an Irish dude, but w/e. Let them do their thing.
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As in McGregor being the Great White Hype in boxing?Just heard Bomani bring up the Great White Hype example like I did.He know.
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What does that have to do with anything? Your not one of those "the Irish were the first slaves" dudes are you Chester?Not surprised in the slightest that NT is playing the race card again.
Funny considering it's an Irish dude, but w/e. Let them do their thing.
It's a common trope in boxing, it's not exactly a ground breaking observation.Just heard Bomani bring up the Great White Hype example like I did.He know.
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Just heard Bomani bring up the Great White Hype example like I did.
As in McGregor being the Great White Hype in boxing?
As in a dude that has no business in the ring with a great boxer but he's getting the opportunity strictly for the hype of it.
You ain't gotta tell me that.
These other dudes get real defensive when you bring up the obvious.
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Just heard Bomani bring up the Great White Hype example like I did.
As in McGregor being the Great White Hype in boxing?
As in a dude that has no business in the ring with a great boxer but he's getting the opportunity strictly for the hype of it.
This fight is being tailored around Floyd. He's going to get all the concessions if this goes through. If this is so racially motivated against the black man in the scenario, then why are all the stipulations going to be in his favor? The main thing in play is not race. It's money, mma vs. boxing, and Floyd's record. The whole negotiation started on one fight. One big cashcow. Would it be MMA style or boxing rules? Conor would wash Floyd in mixed martial arts just the same as Floyd is going to destroy Conor in a boxing match. The business decision (not racial decision) that is being made is that this "fight" must protect the integrity of Floyd's legacy and undefeated record or Floyd won't ever let it happen.
Conor hasn't made nearly the same amount of money as Mayweather has, so how hard is it to realize he will concede in this being a boxing match instead of an MMA battle that Floyd would never agree to? It's either $100 million to losing in the ring or nothing to keep pushing for a matchup in the octagon. What would you choose? It's all about the money!
There are racists in this world. Fact. There are great people of all colors in this country. Fact. Racism can be largely ignored by white people unwilling to acknowledge its existence. Fact. There can be a common thread between white people and black people without racism having to be imposed in every issue. Fact....Though turning to fiction by the looks of it.
I've had enough of it. I'm going to do my part of it and remain optimistic and let ya'll say what you want. It's pretty ******* ridiculous right now though.
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Not surprised in the slightest that NT is playing the race card again.
Funny considering it's an Irish dude, but w/e. Let them do their thing.
What does that have to do with anything? Your not one of those "the Irish were the first slaves" dudes are you Chester?
Oh God no. It's the fact he's not a 'Murican is what I was getting at. The dude isn't running around like Hulk Hogan w/ an American flag over his shoulder.
I always figured the Great White Hype was some born and bred American that the whole Bible belt would get behind -- not a brash Irish dude that fights in the Octagon.
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The **** are yall so defensive about?
Like I before if it doesn't apply to you then cool, sit down. But you ain't gon tell me that race won't be in this hype. Not in boxing, not in America.
Like I before if it doesn't apply to you then cool, sit down. But you ain't gon tell me that race won't be in this hype. Not in boxing, not in America.
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You can't bulldoze your way through this. My post was completely rational, yet go ahead and call it defensiveness. And I sure as **** ain't sitting the **** down. I'm on your side whether you believe it or not. I'm just calling this instance for what it is. If you can't fathom people getting along and looking past race, then maybe you should be the one to take a seat.
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Race is going to be a component of this fight, IMO, if it ever comes to reality. There's no way it won't be. Race is always a part of boxing in these cases, especially when Floyd is involved
However the notion I disagreed with from the start was that this fight was made on the basis of Conor is white and Floyd is black. Or that Conor is a "chosen one" by white America. I don't think that makes any sense.
I believe it's made more around the basis that you have a trash talker who is MMA's biggest star who's "crazy" enough to call out Floyd. The novelty is that no other MMA fighter (that I know of) has ever challenged Floyd (outside of Ronda, OK but that doesn't count) in this manner. Not only challenge him but to just completely talk down to him like this. That's what this whole thing is based on.. not that Conor happens to be white
However the notion I disagreed with from the start was that this fight was made on the basis of Conor is white and Floyd is black. Or that Conor is a "chosen one" by white America. I don't think that makes any sense.
I believe it's made more around the basis that you have a trash talker who is MMA's biggest star who's "crazy" enough to call out Floyd. The novelty is that no other MMA fighter (that I know of) has ever challenged Floyd (outside of Ronda, OK but that doesn't count) in this manner. Not only challenge him but to just completely talk down to him like this. That's what this whole thing is based on.. not that Conor happens to be white
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Agree completely.
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This whole thing coulda been over if a few of y'all wasn't so defensive and on this "OMG I'm color blind and so is everybody else."
So I'll go there, this ain't a place where people look past race. I'm not buying that BS. Whether it's sports or society period. I don't know what America you live in where everybody is just getting along and seeing past race. Historically boxing has promoted Black vs White cuz they know it's gonna get extra hype.
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It's clear that you're the one on the defensive. I never agreed that all is Pleasantville in my America, or anyone's. You're choosing from my text, what you want to believe is true and can only comprehend. Go ahead, with the perpetuation. Keep insisting on the defense and ignore everything else that was said as if it has no bearing...Your opinion bears all the weight. Yeah, I got it. Your disdain for white people isn't racism, because it can't be, right?...It's just another kind of hatred in a long list of...We aren't getting anywhere. 
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It's clear that you're the one on the defensive. I never agreed that all is Pleasantville in my America, or anyone's. You're choosing from my text, what you want to believe is true and can only comprehend. Go ahead, with the perpetuation. Keep insisting on the defense and ignore everything else that was said as if it has no bearing...Your opinion bears all the weight. Yeah, I got it. Your disdain for white people isn't racism, because it can't be, right?...It's just another kind of hatred in a long list of...We aren't getting anywhere.
You just saying a bunch of nothing at this point.
I pointed out a FACT that boxing loves to promote black/white fights and some of y'all got uncomfortable. That's all it is.
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I'm not uncomfortable. Sorry to disappoint. I'm pissed off that you nonchalantly say I'm "ya'll" and have a complete disregard to the other side that tries to make right. Do you even want that or do you prefer just to hate and seek vindication? Your business sense is off if you think this is a 90s movie pinning a black man vs. the great white hype. See what you want...It's probably what you'll tell me...So, it goes...
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Let's be honest. It'd be naive to believe that race wasn't going to factor into pinning the most brash white fighter of this generation against the most brash black fighter.
White vs. black is going to sell a lot of tickets and make tons of money, period. Especially in this day in age where racial tensions in America seems to be as divisive as they've been in a long time. From a marketing/promoting standpoint, it's a dream matchup for the folks collecting their checks at the end of the fight.
White vs. black is going to sell a lot of tickets and make tons of money, period. Especially in this day in age where racial tensions in America seems to be as divisive as they've been in a long time. From a marketing/promoting standpoint, it's a dream matchup for the folks collecting their checks at the end of the fight.
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I guess it comes down to what we're really debating here
If folks think the fight was made on the basis of race, I would disagree
I do concede that promoters definitely considered the race angle, "white vs black, this should make it sell" (even more). The even more goes along with my perspective, it's merely icing on the cake if you will
If folks think the fight was made on the basis of race, I would disagree
I do concede that promoters definitely considered the race angle, "white vs black, this should make it sell" (even more). The even more goes along with my perspective, it's merely icing on the cake if you will
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Again, I agree.
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You all over the place so let's get back on track.
Boxing loves to promote black/white fights. FAX *Beanie Sigel voice*
America does not see beyond race. FAX *Beanie Sigel voice*
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Oh God no. It's the fact he's not a 'Murican is what I was getting at. The dude isn't running around like Hulk Hogan w/ an American flag over his shoulder.Not surprised in the slightest that NT is playing the race card again.
Funny considering it's an Irish dude, but w/e. Let them do their thing.
What does that have to do with anything? Your not one of those "the Irish were the first slaves" dudes are you Chester?
I always figured the Great White Hype was some born and bred American that the whole Bible belt would get behind -- not a brash Irish dude that fights in the Octagon.
da bible belt just got behind a **** talking, womanizing, Yankee.
All that matters is that he is White, and Anglo.
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This isn't just a boxing promotion.
Dana White is gonna have his hand all in that pot. Again, it's just what is going to have to be agreed upon to uphold Floyd's legacy...That's the only reason why it's boxing. Quit ******* reaching. You still haven't attempted a reasoned response to my post that laid it all out...You can't. "Defensive!" And implied racism. Bring a coherent thought to the conversation next time. You're just as bad as the same thing you perpetuate, but think you fight for and is only part of the problem. You're ignorant and that's the only thing I discriminate against. It's pathetic. I'm done.
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I really don't understand why you guys are making this such a big deal. Of course race/ethnicity is a major factor in why this fight is getting so much unwarranted attention.
Do you guys honestly think there would be anywhere close to the level of intrigue if a **** talking Black Brit, Brazilian, or even a Eastern Euro was calling out Floyd?
Floyd's not innocent in this whole farce either. He's playing into it, knowing full well why people want to see this fight.
Do you guys honestly think there would be anywhere close to the level of intrigue if a **** talking Black Brit, Brazilian, or even a Eastern Euro was calling out Floyd?
Floyd's not innocent in this whole farce either. He's playing into it, knowing full well why people want to see this fight.
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its interesting to note conor is under contract with the UFC for mixed martial arts bouts...
not sure if the contract covers professional boxing....2 different sports
i believe this to be the ace up conor's sleeve....
it seems he's willing to court to court and dispute the reach of the contract
I know the UFC most likey owns the rights to conor's name, image, and likeness...
I was hearing something about the "ALI ACT" that could potentially pertain to this situation
not sure if the contract covers professional boxing....2 different sports
i believe this to be the ace up conor's sleeve....
it seems he's willing to court to court and dispute the reach of the contract
I know the UFC most likey owns the rights to conor's name, image, and likeness...
I was hearing something about the "ALI ACT" that could potentially pertain to this situation
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I hope it does happen just to see the circus surrounding the event, and hopefully to see Connor while he's getting washed in the ring get frustrated and roundhouse kick Floyd in the head KO'ing him.
They can put Bhris, and Soulja on the UC too since that fight is just as legitimate as this one.
They can put Bhris, and Soulja on the UC too since that fight is just as legitimate as this one.
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Well, would any of those folks have the bravado that Conor does? I mean at this point Conor has transcended MMA... there's not been anyone in a long time in either boxing nor MMA that operates like Conor. The very fact that he's called Floyd out, again, is the novelty. You can't just say "if X Y or Z called out Floyd"... because... it's never been done. That's a big part of the mystique of this potential match up
I really don't understand why you guys are making this such a big deal. Of course race/ethnicity is a major factor in why this fight is getting so much unwarranted attention.
Do you guys honestly think there would be anywhere close to the level of intrigue if a **** talking Black Brit, Brazilian, or even a Eastern Euro was calling out Floyd?
Floyd's not innocent in this whole farce either. He's playing into it, knowing full well why people want to see this fight.
But to play into your scenario, I just don't think this type of character comes about very often. If Conor was black, and was literally the same person and accomplished the same things, I think there'd still be a similar level of intrigue. Again, the "white vs black" does give it some extra juice, but that's just the extra, not the meat of it
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