Muhammad Ali has died at age 74...RIP to the GOAT

LeaveMeGlazzies said:
Such a great man. Today's mega athletes make a hundred times more money than Ali did in his day, but have thousands of times less of a positive influence on humanity. He will be missed.
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Word. If he was boxing in this era and made as much money as today's athletes he'd be broke. He was a philanthropist and just a genuine lover of people...he just gave his money to anyone in need with a sad story.

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My pops is going through it right now. Every single thing I know about Ali I learned from my father. Muhammad Ali is his idol. I was watching video of Ali vs Frazier 2 at 5 years old. :smh: :wow: I don't know how to console him
 
I think continuing to call dude Cassius is a lack of total respect for his beliefs. I mean, I get it, it's a cool name, but he was very clear on wanting to dissociate himself from it and the reasons behind it.

Also, another resident troll here saying that eventually another will step up and take his place, there's no active/retired athlete today that will come even close. Everyone is too worried about their brand.

It's dope how much he continued to want to share Islam. Even in private moments.
 
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Me and the homies was talking about how Ali had that Platinum FUBU line, lol. I'm pretty sure I have a stretch fitted Ali FUBU hat some where in my parents basement.
 
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Also, another resident troll here saying that eventually another will step up and take his place, there's no active/retired athlete today that will come even close. Everyone is too worried about their brand.

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Said this earlier in the thread
 
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I don't think it is trolling to think someone else will come along and have a modern day equivalent impact that Ali had. There is always someone else coming around right? That is how humanity works.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
I don't think it is trolling to think someone else will come along and have a modern day equivalent impact that Ali had. There is always someone else coming around right? That is how humanity works.
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This was the only point I was trying to make earlier and was called a troll. The fact is Joe Louis was Ali before Ali. He was a better boxer and did more for this country than anyone could imagine. As time moves forward these people are forgotten and traded for more recent idols. There will always be someone new to look up to.
 
This has nothing to do with the mans life and legacy. We have a boxing thread where folks are discussing his ranking in boxing lore right now, this thread is for remembering and honoring the man. Its corny when folks come in threads like this and pull focus to debates that can be had somewhere else.
 
Anyone else love how giddy and childish Tyson looks when he talks or is in the presence of his idol?

There's something about that
 
Flyeed said:
I think continuing to call dude Cassius is a lack of total respect for his beliefs. I mean, I get it, it's a cool name, but he was very clear on wanting to dissociate himself from it and the reasons behind it.

Also, another resident troll here saying that eventually another will step up and take his place, there's no active/retired athlete today that will come even close. Everyone is too worried about their brand.

It's dope how much he continued to want to share Islam. Even in private moments.
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Yeah. With Ali it's way deeper than accomplishments. His impact on a culture. A black man at that time basically telling the government **** you I'm not fighting your war. Always speaking his mind and never being politically correct. Embracing the NOI. Nah, we won't see that from a great/accomplished athelet. Dudes scared of losing endorsements.
 
Jordan Novice said:
Anyone else love how giddy and childish Tyson looks when he talks or is in the presence of his idol?

There's something about that
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Yes, and it's perfectly normal. I find it funny when guys say they'll never be starstruck by another man.


When someone as alpha as Mike ******* Tyson would always be humbled in the presence of Ali. He was always visibly in awe of Ali.







Tyson will always be a real one for how he did Larry Holmes for Muhammad Ali.
 
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Oh look it's happening.


As we speak, the process is happening;

the same nefarious process that overtook the true meaning of MLK legacy and transformed it into teddy bear that spews paper thin platitudes about non violence. Platitudes that are more about maintaining order than forcing us to appeal to the better angels of our nature.


the same dark process that engulfed Bob Marley's history of radicalism and message of rebellion and turned it into a mickey mouse mascot in order to sell headphones and faux Rastafarian energy drinks. Marley embodied the struggle of the underprivileged and loudly questioned tyranny and yet; all across the world the privileged, listen to Bob on Marley branded headphones while they sip Marley branded caffeinated swill and blithely mouth "don't worry, be happy" with narry a thought about inequity or tyranny or their own privileged in their heads.

Can you feel it?

The process is attempting seize Ali's legacy.


If we allow it to happen Ali will become a plaster saint, who "transcended race", the edges will be shaved away, so that of course means the blackness will be shaved away., and along with it the true value of his legacy will be lost.


Ali was not a saint. Ali was not perfect, he was wrong about a great many things, including important things concerning race. He treated women poorly, he treated Joe Frazier despicably. He contained multitudes.

Multitudes so great and expansive could not be contained by racism and the limits set by the most powerful government in the world.


Ali through the force of his will and his prodigious athletic gifts turned himself into the most famous human being on the planet and at the apex of fame and fortune he put it all on the line to tell the US government to go **** themselves.

Ali was arrogant,

Ali lived in a world that constantly told him he was less than what he was and yet he still lived free, arrogantly free.


Every glossy ******** soft focus feature,

Every time a figure like Donald Trump distorts Ali's character to advance their own twisted doctrine is an assault on Ali's legacy.



Do not be fooled.
 
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Osh Kosh Bosh said:
the same dark process that engulfed Bob Marley's history of radicalism and message of rebellion and turned it into a mickey mouse mascot in order to sell headphones and faux Rastafarian energy drinks. Marley embodied the struggle of the underprivileged and loudly questioned tyranny and yet; all across the world the privileged, listen to Bob on Marley branded headphones while they sip Marley branded caffeinated swill and blithely mouth "don't worry, be happy" with narry a thought about inequity or tyranny or their own privileged in their heads.
 
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That was written by Bobby McFerrin, not Bob Marley.

Ya blew it.
 
Osh Kosh Bosh said:
Oh look it's happening.


As we speak, the process is happening;

the same nefarious process that overtook the true meaning of MLK legacy and transformed it into teddy bear that spews paper thin platitudes about non violence. Platitudes that are more about maintaining order than forcing us to appeal to the better angels of our nature.


the same dark process that engulfed Bob Marley's history of radicalism and message of rebellion and turned it into a mickey mouse mascot in order to sell headphones and faux Rastafarian energy drinks. Marley embodied the struggle of the underprivileged and loudly questioned tyranny and yet; all across the world the privileged, listen to Bob on Marley branded headphones while they sip Marley branded caffeinated swill and blithely mouth "don't worry, be happy" with narry a thought about inequity or tyranny or their own privileged in their heads.

Can you feel it?

The process is attempting seize Ali's legacy.


If we allow it to happen Ali will become a plaster saint, who "transcended race", the edges will be shaved away, so that of course means the blackness will be shaved away., and along with it the true value of his legacy will be lost.


Ali was not a saint. Ali was not perfect, he was wrong about a great many things, including important things concerning race. He treated women poorly, he treated Joe Frazier despicably. He contained multitudes.

Multitudes so great and expansive could not be contained by racism and the limits set by the most powerful government in the world.


Ali through the force of his will and his prodigious athletic gifts turned himself into the most famous human being on the planet and at the apex of fame and fortune he put it all on the line to tell the US government to go **** themselves.

Ali was arrogant,

Ali lived in a world that constantly told him he was less than what he was and yet he still lived free, arrogantly free.


Every glossy ******** soft focus feature,

Every time a figure like Donald Trump distorts Ali's character to advance their own twisted doctrine is an assault on Ali's legacy.



Do not be fooled.
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Everyone wants to talk about legacy but only after history has been revised. In reality he dodged the draft because of religious and political reasons. He disregarded all of these beliefs after everything was taken from him and went and collected pay days in some of the most oppressive countries in the world run by military dictators. Anybody that wants to pick up a Zaire shirt from 74 needs to pick up a book instead. When nobody ****** with him Joe gave him and his family money so he wouldn't starve and he was repaid by being humiliated in front of the country by Ali being called an Uncle Tom, **** and gorilla. if it wasn't for Joe pulling his career out of the abyss nobody would even care today. You want to talk about legacy? Who here even knows who "Jack" Johnson was? A legacy doesn't mean anything if nobody remembers.
 
Jack Johnson was basically the first of everything in boxing. People who really followed Ali probably know who Jack Johnson was. He was doing the same stuff as Ali, just in the early 1900s instead of the 60s
 
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