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How Do You Feel About Your Child Being Exposed To Same Sex Couples Through Cartoons/Kids Shows (Nick
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why is it always gay arguments try to be based on racial dynamics?
like its always relating gay struggle to white on black racism
really, i just dont see how who someone has sex with has any bearing on who they are as a person
like the color of ur skin is something apparent, you cant hide it
but gay ppl have been in the closet and somehow that becomes worse or as important as skin color?
its funny how i always hear feminism is just for white women, i guess all this gay hoopla is just for white gay men too
I dunno about all that. Not all gays can hide. In history, the gays that were open had a regime come in and kill them. Still do today in some areas of the world. Hiding who you are is tougher on some people..
However, I don't believe in comparing the struggles either. I think that comparison is mainly to strike a sympathy cord with black people.
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when I saw Lola in Space Jam it did not cross my mind that it was Bugs in drag. Actually I never even thought about it until you just said it
Which leads to the main point, kids will be kids .. they just want to watch TV. Adults are what make things childish and immature.
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what are the parallels between gay and black?
not in how theyre treated, but parallels intrinsic to each group?
hell apples are discriminated against cuz theyre not used in hamburgers
not in how theyre treated, but parallels intrinsic to each group?
hell apples are discriminated against cuz theyre not used in hamburgers
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We are in the digital era.
Cancel your cables, stream OLD cartoons so your kids aren't exposed to the new stuff.
That is for those that don't agree with "that stuff."
Cancel your cables, stream OLD cartoons so your kids aren't exposed to the new stuff.
That is for those that don't agree with "that stuff."
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when I saw Lola in Space Jam it did not cross my mind that it was Bugs in drag. Actually I never even thought about it until you just said it
Which leads to the main point, kids will be kids .. they just want to watch TV. Adults are what make things childish and immature.
excatly. 4 year old me was fixated on THE JOKE.
not the cultural implications.
Peppy Le Pew was in love with the cat that he thinks is a skunk. His love is exagerrated in obsession for comedic effect.
I wasn't thinking about being a sexual predator becuase the concept of rape hadn't entered my worldview.
When I saw bert and ernie on semsemea street I wasn't laughing there thinking after this segment is over those two dudes are going have sex becuase they are gay.
If you were 4 or 5 year old thinking about these things well you just live a different life than I belive most people do.
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I can take that. Most probably don't see those things.
But many did.
But many did.
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That's a loaded question
You're asking me to clarify a statement that I never made
The parallels are between racism and homophobia, not the persecuted groups themselves
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ok what are the parallels between racism and homophobia?
how is the discrimination they face similar?
how is the discrimination they face similar?
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built in fear
Are they both not methods that are used to set apart certain people as lesser than?
Are they both not used to deny specific groups the same rights that are afforded to the majority?
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youre right they both do that
just remind me of the history of gay crow laws and gaynics where gay ppl were hung from trees
i forgot about the 400 years gay people were forced into labor just for being gay
remind me how gay people are being locked up in droves and funding a for profit prison system
im not tryin to say gay people dont have their struggle, but comparing it to race IMO is just wrong
at the end of the day who they choose to love, how they choose to do it cannot compare IMO to the intrinsic nature of ones race and how it plays in society
just remind me of the history of gay crow laws and gaynics where gay ppl were hung from trees
i forgot about the 400 years gay people were forced into labor just for being gay
remind me how gay people are being locked up in droves and funding a for profit prison system
im not tryin to say gay people dont have their struggle, but comparing it to race IMO is just wrong
at the end of the day who they choose to love, how they choose to do it cannot compare IMO to the intrinsic nature of ones race and how it plays in society
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I don't think the struggles themselves are comparable, nor does it serve any point to compare them regardless but I see the ideology and thought process behind racism and homophobia as very similar. Both are irrational fear/hatred for a specific group of people, based on a harmless personal trait
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At the end of the day. A rock is a rock. Gay people are still getting stoned and thrown off buildings in the middle east. :x
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They can choose to blend in if they want, unlike blacks
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Some can. I don't think the more flamboyant ones can. You can usually pick em out a crowd. This is also granted that the area they live in seemed threatening towards gays since they were born. I'm sure some grow up with gay tendencies thinking it's all good where they live... till it's not.
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You need to be reminded that the push for anti-gay legislation is still a very real thing in the US in 2016?
What about the fact that 49 people were slaughtered JUST LAST MONTH simply because they were in a gay night club?
You also seem to have forgotten that engaging in a homosexual act is a crime in 70+ countries and is still punishable by death in a handful of them?
I never said that the struggles are the same. They are both unique. We don't disagree there.
I even made it a point to say that the similarities shared are simply between the methods of oppression.
This is part of the reason that suicide rates in the gay community are so high.
They're told that they should just "blend in" and essentially hide a large part of their identity.
That's just taking the blame away from the people who perpetuate bigotry and placing it on the victims.
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again, show me the gay jim crow laws? the gay picnics? the forced gay servitude?
you bring up orlando, but wasnt the shooter gay? is that like gay on gay crime?
guess we wont be labeling it that tho
like i said, violence i understand
just show me where institutionally gays face similar discrimination
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i have no problems with it . its the real world. My daughters have asked me before how come they dont have a mom. I just tell them she has her own family and shes has other kids
. That we have our own family and she has her own family and that every family is different. I tell them some kids dont have dads , or have two moms and two dads. They are young, they just turned 5 but they do ask me questions like that from time to time.
i have no problem with homosexuality tho. If one of my daughters were to be gay thats they own choice. Even if i had a son (which i dont) that was gay, thats they choice. I have no problem with it.
. That we have our own family and she has her own family and that every family is different. I tell them some kids dont have dads , or have two moms and two dads. They are young, they just turned 5 but they do ask me questions like that from time to time.
i have no problem with homosexuality tho. If one of my daughters were to be gay thats they own choice. Even if i had a son (which i dont) that was gay, thats they choice. I have no problem with it.
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Do you mean discrimination that they face within social institutions like schools, churches, and the government?
But this is obviously an exercise in futility on my part
Believe what you want to believe
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dont take offense my issue isnt with you
i just dont like seeing the comparisons
like someone said, racism and homophobia are based on fear, i can agree with that
but in practice imo there are many degrees of separation in terms of discrimination
i meant institutionally in terms of policies/systems put in place for the subjugation of homosexuals
like how segregation was a policy that literally divided society into white and colored
i just dont like seeing the comparisons
like someone said, racism and homophobia are based on fear, i can agree with that
but in practice imo there are many degrees of separation in terms of discrimination
i meant institutionally in terms of policies/systems put in place for the subjugation of homosexuals
like how segregation was a policy that literally divided society into white and colored
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There is and has been systemic discrimination of homosexuals, and in some ways is parallels what is done and what continues to be done to black people.
People in the LBGTQ community still aren't included in the Civil Rights Act, is was a crime to be gay and in the military not to long ago, sodomy laws, hate crimes against homosexuals only got added to the 1969 law under Obama. PLVN covered others
In no way does bringing these things up in no way takes away from what happened to black people. Nor goes it make the argument that the two are on the same scale. Drawing a few parallels doesn't do that.
You're letting your level of rustle close your mind famb
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