How Do You Feel About The Current Heroin Epidimic?

Moe Fab said:
Just read some artikles on the dea banning 'kratom', an herb that is said to help overkome opioid addiktion. Big pharma n the prison industry definitely seem to have their hands on this n dont wanna see this go away. Instead of doin research n kase studies, they ban it altogether
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I can personally vouch for its miracle-like opioid withdrawal relief abilities. A while back I was ordered to try to decrease my Tramadol dosage from the maximum. Even decreasing it by a mere 20mg resulted in withdrawal shortly after taking that dosage. Cold sweats/hot chills, electrified feeling in my right arm, brain shocks, ... In other words: hell.

I looked into what might help and learned about Kratom. I ordered some from the Netherlands and it worked much better than I imagined.

I tried decreasing by 20mg again but this time with a dosage of Kratom. All the withdrawal effects were gone. I ordered the Kratom in powder form so it reaches its effect faster and half a table spoon removed any withdrawal symptom almost instantly.

I cut my dosage back from 400mg to 300 without having to endure any withdrawal symptoms. As long as I took some Kratom a couple times a day I didn't have any real negative effects except when I'd wake up in the morning. My chronic pain became too unbearable at the 300mg Tramadol dosage so doctors put me back on the maximum but I can at least vouch 100% for Kratom's opioid withdrawal relief.

The way Kratom works is that it interacts with the same receptors in your brain as opiates, but the plant isn't related to opiates in any way.

Basically it tricks your brain into thinking you're ingesting an opiate, thus alleviating the withdrawal symptoms caused by a decreased opiate dosage. When you reach the desired dosage or completely quit the opiates, simply discontinue the kratom.

Tramadol isn't in the same league as oxycodone, morphine, ... etc so idk how well it would work for relieving withdrawal from those opiates but it most certainly works for low to mid strength opiates like codeine and tramadol.
 
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Colombia said:
I can personally vouch for its miracle-like opioid withdrawal relief abilities. A while back I was ordered to try to decrease my Tramadol dosage from the maximum. Even decreasing it by a mere 20mg resulted in withdrawal shortly after taking that dosage. Cold sweats/hot chills, electrified feeling in my right arm, brain shocks, ... In other words: hell.
I looked into what might help and learned about Kratom. I ordered some from the Netherlands and it worked much better than I imagined.
I tried decreasing by 20mg again but this time with a dosage of Kratom. All the withdrawal effects were gone. I ordered the Kratom in powder form so it reaches its effect faster and half a table spoon removed any withdrawal symptom almost instantly.
I cut my dosage back from 400mg to 300 without having to endure any withdrawal symptoms. As long as I took some Kratom a couple times a day I didn't have any real negative effects except when I'd wake up in the morning. My chronic pain became too unbearable at the 300mg Tramadol dosage so doctors put me back on the maximum but I can at least vouch 100% for Kratom's opioid withdrawal relief.
The way Kratom works is that it interacts with the same receptors in your brain as opiates, but the plant isn't related to opiates in any way.
Basically it tricks your brain into thinking you're ingesting an opiate, thus alleviating the withdrawal symptoms caused by a decreased opiate dosage. When you reach the desired dosage or completely quit the opiates, simply discontinue the kratom.
Tramadol isn't in the same league as oxycodone, morphine, ... etc so idk how well it would work for relieving withdrawal from those opiates but it most certainly works for low to mid strength opiates like codeine and tramadol.
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Of course, the DEA just banned kratom here in the US :smh:
 
Colombia said:
Moe Fab said:
Just read some artikles on the dea banning 'kratom', an herb that is said to help overkome opioid addiktion. Big pharma n the prison industry definitely seem to have their hands on this n dont wanna see this go away. Instead of doin research n kase studies, they ban it altogether :smh:
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I can personally vouch for its miracle-like opioid withdrawal relief abilities. A while back I was ordered to try to decrease my Tramadol dosage from the maximum. Even decreasing it by a mere 20mg resulted in withdrawal shortly after taking that dosage. Cold sweats/hot chills, electrified feeling in my right arm, brain shocks, ... In other words: hell.
I looked into what might help and learned about Kratom. I ordered some from the Netherlands and it worked much better than I imagined.
I tried decreasing by 20mg again but this time with a dosage of Kratom. All the withdrawal effects were gone. I ordered the Kratom in powder form so it reaches its effect faster and half a table spoon removed any withdrawal symptom almost instantly.
I cut my dosage back from 400mg to 300 without having to endure any withdrawal symptoms. As long as I took some Kratom a couple times a day I didn't have any real negative effects except when I'd wake up in the morning. My chronic pain became too unbearable at the 300mg Tramadol dosage so doctors put me back on the maximum but I can at least vouch 100% for Kratom's opioid withdrawal relief.
The way Kratom works is that it interacts with the same receptors in your brain as opiates, but the plant isn't related to opiates in any way.
Basically it tricks your brain into thinking you're ingesting an opiate, thus alleviating the withdrawal symptoms caused by a decreased opiate dosage. When you reach the desired dosage or completely quit the opiates, simply discontinue the kratom.
Tramadol isn't in the same league as oxycodone, morphine, ... etc so idk how well it would work for relieving withdrawal from those opiates but it most certainly works for low to mid strength opiates like codeine and tramadol.
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Thanks for sharing that bruh :smokin

Thats the **** that pisses me off. There are people that wanna kick, i personally kno about a dozen, but **** like this deters that. Im not naive n i kno how amerika works, but at some point the lunacy in the way it works has to eventually be fixed, right?
 
ahat20 said:
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/health/carfentanil-drugs-opioids-addiction-health-1.3769774

Apparently 100 times stronger than fentanyl
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Elephant tranquillizer 
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In the hospital after my lung surgery the doctors put me on Sufenta, an opioid ~500 times more potent than morphine and 5 to 10 times as potent as Fentanyl

God awful experience. Quickly became nauseous as hell and started getting uncontrollable itching all over my body, could barely keep my eyes open, ...

Can't imagine what something even worse than that would do
 
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I have a co-worker that had a friend who died from herion laced with that elephant tranquillizer. Crazy.
 
 MIAMISBURG, Ohio — An Ohio city is giving an ultimatum to heroin addicts: Seek help or go to jail. That’s the approach Miamisburg – a city just south of Dayton – is taking after a deadly start to 2017. Miamisburg is on track to have five times the number of overdoses this year compared to 2016. 

Miamisburg Police Sgt. Jeff Muncy told our partners at WDTN-TV  that if a person overdoses in Miamisburg and survives, they will likely face criminal charges – unless they decide to get help. 

“You either seek treatment, or you go to jail,” Muncy told WDTN-TV. 

"By charging people for overdosing, the various crimes they commit when they do it, it gives the judge some leverage to push them toward getting help," Muncy added. 

The numbers prove just how serious the epidemic is in Miamisburg. 

In 2016, 87 people overdosed and 10 died within the city. Through only the first couple of months this year, 50 people have overdosed and nine have died.
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 excuse the users, throw the street dealers under the jail.
 
KingKoopa said:
:lol:  excuse the users, throw the street dealers under the jail.
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Generally sellers face more time than users. It's just more difficult to actually catch a transaction than it is to find someone high on the stuff. I work at a county hospital and before this job I had no idea how big Meth and Heroine were.
 
IsYouSerious said:
Generally sellers face more time than users. It's just more difficult to actually catch a transaction than it is to find someone high on the stuff. I work at a county hospital and before this job I had no idea how big Meth and Heroine were.
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Depends what crime the user committed, since they don't go to jail for using, unless they're in violation of probation. Judges aren't locking people up because they shoot dope. However, they will lock them up if said dope fiend robs a McDonald's.
 
This country doesn't do its due diligence to help the citizens bc the powers that be know that there's profit in problems.

My mom is a counselor for drug addicts and alcoholics so i've been educated about the dangers of drugs my entire life.

I'm sure that so many people are persuaded by people that are close to them that don't seem like they're "strung out". "come on, do i look like an addict, just try this, it'll get you right. I wouldn't tell you to do anything i wouldn't do" :smh:
 
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Saved a dude from overdosing a couple months ago. Dude was just laying on the sidewalk looking dead and everyone was just walking around him.

Went to the fire department down the street to tell them, they said it was his first time doing it.

The firemen work out at my gym so they told me what happened later.
 
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kingkoopa kingkoopa I didn't know you stayed around here. Yeah, it's bad and only getting worse. Did you know Shane Battier's brother od'ed and died a couple summers ago at that hotel off 7th that looks out on Union Terminal? It was his first time using, too. They found his iPad beside him and he'd been googling how to shoot up. He stayed in my little bro's building, like 2 doors down. Met him a couple times, and he was a super chill, successful dude. Not sure what caused him to go down that road. His wife was never the same. She ended up killing herself a couple months later. Little bro found her.

Peace,
J
 
IsYouSerious said:
Generally sellers face more time than users. It's just more difficult to actually catch a transaction than it is to find someone high on the stuff. I work at a county hospital and before this job I had no idea how big Meth and Heroine were.
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Yeah but crack users got severe jail time too.
jshortt said:
@KingKoopa I didn't know you stayed around here. Yeah, it's bad and only getting worse. Did you know Shane Battier's brother od'ed and died a couple summers ago at that hotel off 7th that looks out on Union Terminal? It was his first time using, too. They found his iPad beside him and he'd been googling how to shoot up. He stayed in my little bro's building, like 2 doors down. Met him a couple times, and he was a super chill, successful dude. Not sure what caused him to go down that road. His wife was never the same. She ended up killing herself a couple months later. Little bro found her.

Peace,
J
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Yup l remember that didn't know she killed herself 
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KingKoopa said:
Yeah but crack users got severe jail time too.


Yup l remember that didn't know she killed herself :x
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Yep. Swallowed a bunch of pills and cashed out. Still remember the day they moved in. Shane was helping them, and kept crashing on the bench in front of Unheardof.

Peace,
J
 
I have sympathy for all people who suffer from addiction, but I also don't believe that compassion should be a strictly reciprocal gesture
 
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PLVN said:
I have sympathy for all people who suffer from addiction, but I also don't believe that compassion should be a strictly reciprocal gesture
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I get the lack of emotion. I can't care for people that don't care about me. The chickens are coming home to roost. We had drugs poured into our communities to destroy us. They thought it wouldn't come back to haunt them?
 
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