How Do You Feel About The Current Heroin Epidimic?

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If you've read up on the Iran-Contra scandal, then this isn't much of a stretch.

These companies are NOT about anything other than a dollar.
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Yes, and you can read up on the private US contractor, Blackwater, that is earning hundreds of millions of dollars of US taxpayer money for counternarcotics operations in Afghanistan despite the fact that crop production is rising every year. You can also read up on the billions of dollars of subsidies the US has contributed to "agricultural" production in Afgahnistan. The same "rumors" about the CIA, Nicaraguan contras and the crack epidemic of the 1980s apply to this current heroine epidemic.
 
I've been prescribed the maximum dosage of Tramadol (1 tier above codeine but not as potent as oxycodone/hydrocodone) for about 2 years now I think. It's a legitimate prescription for chronic pain but I've had to ask my mom to keep all my painkillers locked away in a hiding spot. I still have a lot of pain despite the opiates so I'm not sure if that or the physical addiction is the main factors in the cravings. I'm not gonna search the house for my pills or anything but I know that if they were out in the open, I probably wouldn't be able to resist.

Tramadol isn't nearly as strong as oxycodone etc. but the withdrawals are still absolute hell, so I can only imagine what oxy and heroin addicts go through. I have to take my painkillers at the exact same time each day or the withdrawals start kicking in after a mere ~20 minutes or so. Sudden onset of cold sweats/hot chills, stuffy nose, the feeling of an electric current constantly flowing through my right arm and something I'd describe as brain shocks to top it off. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Prescription drugs, especially opiates and benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium, ...), are nothing to play with. Only use them if you absolutely can't function properly without them and follow your doctor's instructions.
 
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My sister was on heroin for 3 years. She has luckily got things turned around and been sober for 2 years. I know sometimes it's hard for people to give sympathy for a wrong choice of trying it, but I've seen what it does to people my whole life. Have had friends OD and pass. Three of my neighbors od'd and died 5 days apart. Its terrible out here and no matter what you see these politicians/media saying, not much help is out there. Treatment centers are 6 month waiting list and cost mass.
I've also seen people complain about naloxone and it being sold at kroger s and things around here. My sister od'd and was saved by it. It was her low point and made her realize to change.

Drug addiction is something I have a very strong opinion on. I see the argument that it was there choice, but having some sympathy and trying to help can go a long way.
 
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A friend of mine from Staten Island has been telling me about this for like a year now. It's really become a huge problem. He lives in a pretty nice neighborhood, and he sees people laid out in other people's lawns passed out from time to time.
 
Colombia said:
I've been prescribed the maximum dosage of Tramadol (1 tier above codeine but not as potent as oxycodone/hydrocodone) for about 2 years now I think. It's a legitimate prescription for chronic pain but I've had to ask my mom to keep all my painkillers locked away in a hiding spot. I still have a lot of pain despite the opiates so I'm not sure if that or the physical addiction is the main factors in the cravings. I'm not gonna search the house for my pills or anything but I know that if they were out in the open, I probably wouldn't be able to resist.
Tramadol isn't nearly as strong as oxycodone etc. but the withdrawals are still absolute hell, so I can only imagine what oxy and heroin addicts go through. I have to take my painkillers at the exact same time each day or the withdrawals start kicking in after a mere ~20 minutes or so. Sudden onset of cold sweats/hot chills, stuffy nose, the feeling of an electric current constantly flowing through my right arm and something I'd describe as brain shocks to top it off. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Prescription drugs, especially opiates and benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium, ...), are nothing to play with. Only use them if you absolutely can't function properly without them and follow your doctor's instructions.
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what happened to you giving maryjane a try?

I have always had access to vics, but too many stories and me noticing how quickly I would turn to them made me knock that crap off asap. I would be sitting at the desk, feel a slight discomfort in my neck and pop one...knew that aint the route I wanted to take.
 
My school is in the town over from the Heroin capital of the northeast 

There was also a heroin documentary about the epidemic on Cape Cod and my old elementary school teacher was in it 
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jthagreat said:
what happened to you giving maryjane a try?

I have always had access to vics, but too many stories and me noticing how quickly I would turn to them made me knock that crap off asap. I would be sitting at the desk, feel a slight discomfort in my neck and pop one...knew that aint the route I wanted to take.
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I usually vape a few hours before bed so I can go to sleep with a bit more comfort. I'm not a big fan of the weed high but luckily it doesn't take much for a mild pain relief effect.

It actually works relatively well for pain in my experience. It's still illegal here but I live about 20 minutes from the Netherlands border so it's easy to get some medicinal grade strains. Every doctor I've talked to about it supports its legalization. One of them even told me she had already been considering letting her father use cannabis for cancer related pains and started asking me all types of questions about my experience with it 
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If you wonder why America is in the grips of a heroin epidemic that kills two hundred people a week, take a hard look at the legalization of pot, which destroyed the profits of the Mexican cartels. How did they respond to a major loss in revenue? Like any company, they created an irresistible new product and flooded the market. The scariest part: this might not have happened with El Chapo in charge.
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Looking at the American drug market as it existed, Guzmán and his partners saw an opportunity. An increasing number of Americans were addicted to prescription opioids such as Oxycontin.

And their addiction was expensive. One capsule of Oxy might sell on the street for thirty dollars, and an addict might need ten hits a day.

Well, ****, they thought. We have some of the best poppy fields in the world. Opium, morphine, Oxy, heroin—they're basically the same drug, so …

The Sinaloa Cartel decided to undercut the pharmaceutical companies. They increased the production of Mexican heroin by almost 70 percent, and also raised the purity level, bringing in Colombian cooks to create "cinnamon" heroin as strong as the East Asian product. They had been selling a product that was about 46 percent pure, now they improved it to 90 percent.

Their third move was classic market economics—they dropped the price. A kilo of heroin went for as much as $200,000 in New York City a few years ago, cost $80,000 in 2013, and now has dropped to around $50,000. More of a better product for less money: You can't beat it.
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Good read if u have the time
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a46918/heroin-mexico-el-chapo-cartels-don-winslow/
 
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rillo561 said:
Big problem down here in South Florida, I work in social services, and one program we run is a indigent cremation program. It's not uncommon for us to cremate 2-3 21-27YO a week. Just had 2 yesterday that died from an OD.

The funny thing is, many of these people die while in treatment. My area is booming in the "sober home " business, which many are scams, milking loved ones of their resources and making a killing on insurance claims. Sober homes are a huge business down here, and it seems like anyone can do it if you have the property.

Idk how I feel about it, like it's sad so many people are dying and maybe it might get this country to look at drugs differently, but growing up in the crack era of the 80's can't help to think as this as "payback" of some sorts.
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dude....theres been SO many people just from my neighborhood that went to Florida to get sober at one of those places and ended up dead from od'ing. just happened to this girl i had a crush on when I was like 12 and she was a year or 2 older. kept posting facebook statuses about being in Florida and "progressing" and then boom.
 
gregzzy23 said:
dude....theres been SO many people just from my neighborhood that went to Florida to get sober at one of those places and ended up dead from od'ing. just happened to this girl i had a crush on when I was like 12 and she was a year or 2 older. kept posting facebook statuses about being in Florida and "progressing" and then boom.
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Yep, sounds about right. It's a cash cow.
 
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Shocking photos of adults who overdosed with boy in car
The East Liverpool Police Department in Ohio released this photo of a couple who appeared to be passed out in a vehicle with a young boy in the backseat.

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The East Liverpool Police Department in Ohio released this photo of a couple who appeared to be passed out in a vehicle with a young boy in the backseat.
The East Liverpool Police Department says the couple had overdosed on heroin. (Photo credit: East Liverpool Police Department)

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The East Liverpool Police Department says the couple had overdosed on heroin. (Photo credit: East Liverpool Police Department)
By: FOX5NY.COM STAFF
POSTED:SEP 09 2016 09:56AM EDT
UPDATED:SEP 09 2016 06:19PM EDT
NEW YORK (FOX 5 NY) - The East Liverpool Police Department in Ohio released photos on its Facebook page of a man and woman who appeared to be passed out in a vehicle with a young boy in the backseat.

When officers responded to a report of an incapacitated driver on Wednesday, they found the woman unconscious and the man's speech was unintelligible. He also “had pin point pupils.”


The man, identified as James Acord, told the officer that he was taking passenger Rhonda Pasek to the hospital.


The driver tried to shift the car into another drive while the police officer was questioning him. One of the officers then reached in and turned off the vehicle and took the keys.

The man then passed out.

According to local media outlets, Narcan, which is used to reverse opiate overdoses, was administered by EMS responders. Acord and Pasek were taken to a local hospital.

Acord was charged with operating a vehicle impaired, endangering a child and slowing in a roadway. Pasek was charged with endangering a child, not wearing a seatbelt and public intoxication.

The photos shared by East Liverpool Police were accompanied by a post about the need to bring attention to the heroin epidemic gripping the nation.

The boy was reportedly placed in the custody of Columbiana County Children's Services. He was identifed as Acord's son.
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This isnt gonna go away. Dope still around n flourishing, karga gonna keep flourishing. Until they kome up with a new way to package n sell it, people still gonna chase that high; **** people still smoke crack. The drug epidemik, heroin n meth especially, will never die. As long as broken homesexist, adults have troubles, teens have disposable inkome, n entertainers kontinue to glorify drug use, this will never go away. Weve been just sayin no for 30+ years n drugs are an even bigger problem. Theres too much money involved, so get used to it. Teach your children/young ones around you the dangers in middle school. Talk to them about it like adults, n let them kno the konsequences. Ive told my family n homies, its ok you get high, but be a funktioning n responsible addikt. People live with all types of disabilities, just learn to live a regular life n keep your priorities in order. I kno most wont like my perspektive, but i believe the only way to kounter it, is to edukate the youth early. Also, its hard for people from well to do/sheltered lives to komprehend the dangers kuz theyve never seen it. Therefore, they have no experience with it. Drug kulture, addiktion, n problems that stem from that will never go away, we need to find a way to help those that suffer from it bekome produktive citizens.

Just realized i didnt klarify that im speaking on adults when i said its ok to get high. I do not kondone children getting high, nor getting/being high around children.
 
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You said its ok if you get high but be a functionin and responsible addict.......



Thing is, everyone has their 'drug' of choice.

I know a real solid vato that been the the pen twice, holds down a job monday-saturday and smokes crack on pay day but its after he takes care of his kids.

Its mind control For certain people.

I know ****** that dont know when to stop drinkin or snortin.

I know cats that can take a couplw puffs off a blunt and chill, and a couple cats that buy a zip and smoke 3/4 of it in one night, and a couple cats that can shoot up a couple days then chill for a month or two.
 
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this is sad. I dont have no sympathy for drug users because most drug users know whats right from wrong when they decided to pick it up.

but i cant really speak on this subject I lived in FL pretty much my whole life and yet to meet a heroin addict unless i didnt know he/she was one. Nor have i ever seen it physically.

People need to stick with MJ and this next presedntial candidate better make it legal on the federal level.
 
Bruh those pics :frown:

I see on the news all the time about people driving and ODing pr ODing with their kids around.
 
www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/

this doc talks about how it started with the increase of opioids being prescribed for pain

and pill abuse leading people to graduate to the street drug

also the gentler approach police are taking towards addicts in some cities

and the "changing face" of the addiciton... which is the cause for this new gentler approach
 
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Heroin is a problem here in AZ too, especially among the wealthier crowd. One of the guys I went to HS with was a freshman with me at the same college and he dropped out the first semester. When I called him, his mom answered the phone and said that he dropped out because of heroin and is now in rehab.
 
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this is sad. I dont have no sympathy for drug users because most drug users know whats right from wrong when they decided to pick it up.

but i cant really speak on this subject I lived in FL pretty much my whole life and yet to meet a heroin addict unless i didnt know he/she was one. Nor have i ever seen it physically.

People need to stick with MJ and this next presedntial candidate better make it legal on the federal level.
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That's not really true. The US also has a very large problem with doctors overprescribing opiate painkillers. Doctors overprescribe here too but to get something like Oxycodone or Hydrocodone you pretty much need to be dying of pain so to speak. I didn't even get any pain meds when I was released from the hospital after my partial lung removal. :lol:
I hear stories about doctors handing out opiate prescriptions like candy in the US, even after small routine surgeries like wisdom teeth removals.
Addiction can kick in very fast with opiates, especially the very potent ones like Oxy. Even if used according to doctor's instructions. When I got my Tramadol prescription I started noticing the cravings about 2-3 weeks in. I was immediately given 75% of the max dosage but still, Tramadol isn't anywhere near the potency of Oxy.
All it takes is a doctor prescribing some unneeded opiates to someone. And because Oxy, Morphine, ... are all extremely expensive, that opens the gateway to a cheaper and more potent alternative; heroin.
 
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^^ Vital reading on this subject. Hari's been tackling this issue more concisely and prominently than anyone I can think of recently. 

If you're anywhere around Seattle/Portland it's crazy how easy it is to spot middle/upper-middle class 25-30 year old white kids that are just horsed out. 
 
Hard to be sympathetic when these people know the risks and I'm sure they have seen it first hand whether on a corny public ad or when they are knee deep in it.
Don't really believe in the disease diagnosis seems like big pharma is behind that ****.


A bit off topic but do ya think that in the pursuit of legalizing MJ, these other hard drugs make an appearance in weed whether legit or through illegal methods? Or do you trust that some federal agency will oversee the production and distribution of weed?

I feel that it's a slippery slope in legalizing drugs that alter the state of mind only for the simple fact that I don't trust big business with it.
However, I do feel that some drugs should be decriminalized like bud, but not heron or coke. And even then light sentences with heavy rehabilitation on both sides users and pushers. But in this country if it don't sell then it don't make sense, so I doubt it will happen.
 
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