Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

Who is the MVP?

  • Russell Westbrook

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  • Kawhi Leonard

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  • James Harden

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  • Lebron James

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  • Kevin Durant

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Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?
 
 
The Hawks are the worst fanbase in basketball.  Thats my thing.
that's because you and your bro bro would rather be fans of the Spurs and Lakers than the hometown team.
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 so true, not being a fan of the hometown team has always been a hard concept for me to grasp; tho I do accept it 
 
He's coming. Sooner than you guys think. They're capable this year. Depends on Middleton getting healthy.
Maybe he should worry about making the playoffs instead of beating the Cavs. They're only two games away from missing the playoffs at the moment.

Capable of beating them this year?
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 The top 3 players of that team have yet to win a playoff series in their career, but they're going to beat the NBA champs who are even better this year? Put down the pipe.
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?


The short answer is that those films from the 40s were shot in HD (35/70mm film) and then scaled down. Unless the NBA was filming games on 35mm film on the side, which is very unlikely, you won't be getting any HD games from the 90s.
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?


The short answer is that those films from the 40s were shot in HD (35/70mm film) and then scaled down. Unless the NBA was filming games on 35mm film on the side, which is very unlikely, you won't be getting any HD games from the 90s.
NBA messed up. Abc/ESPN messed up rather. Great answer man, thanks.
 
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?
Movies are shot on film. NBA games in the 90s were shot on standard definition video.

Film has a much higher resolution than standard definition video.

Being an analogue medium, you can't really reduce film's resolution to numbers, but most estimate 35mm film to have a 4K resolution, which is 3840 x 2160 pixels. Then there is the whole issue of different types of film stock. Some are more grainy than others, so you might not see much of a difference between film scanned at 2K (bascially a HD 1920 x 1080 resolution) and 4K.

Standard definition video, which NBA games from the 90s were recorded with, on the other hand has a MUCH lower resolution, at only 640 x 480 pixels:

Furthermore, it has a more square-ish 4:3 aspect ratio, and not a wide-screen aspect ratio like modern TVs:

Which is why I've noticed when NBA show footage of older games, they either stretch, crop, or cut off sides of the image by zooming in so that the standard definition aspect ratio "fits" the HD aspect ratio better and avoid black bars:

Which is crap, I would rather have the full image with black bars, or have them fill the black bars with some graphic.

I know that there is plenty of very old NBA footage that was shot on film that could be made to look amazing. But film restoration is expensive.
 
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I've done the math over and over. But I still can't figure out why teams in the east continue to feed Cleveland more pieces. Teams are all offering their best players to Cleveland like a ritual sacrifice. Might as well tell them "hey lebron you missed a spot" and give them Millsap too. Send Millsap to Cleveland for a 2022 2nd round pick and a Gatorade buy 1 get 1 free coupon. Why not.
 
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I've done the math over and over. But I still can't figure out why teams in the east continue to feed Cleveland more pieces. Teams are all offering their best players to Cleveland like a ritual sacrifice. Might as well tell them "hey lebron you missed a spot" and give them Millsap too. Send Millsap to Cleveland for a 2022 2nd round pick and a Gatorade buy 1 get 1 free coupon. Why not.
Because GMs hate what GSW did with KD.

I love it. As long as them F*boys don't win it, I'm good. :smokin
 
As soon as Lebron retires as a player, Ballmer needs to get on the phone with him and hire him as our GM.
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?

was watching that 3 day twilight zone marathon on syfy few days ago. quality was nuts. was like watching an hd 3d football game in black and white. then i watch some episodes on netflix and they trash quality
 
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?

Movies are shot on film. NBA games in the 90s were shot on standard definition video.

Film has a much higher resolution than standard definition video.

Being an analogue medium, you can't really reduce film's resolution to numbers, but most estimate 35mm film to have a 4K resolution, which is 3840 x 2160 pixels. Then there is the whole issue of different types of film stock. Some are more grainy than others, so you might not see much of a difference between film scanned at 2K (bascially a HD 1920 x 1080 resolution) and 4K.

Standard definition video, which NBA games from the 90s were recorded with, on the other hand has a MUCH lower resolution, at only 640 x 480 pixels:

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Furthermore, it has a more square-ish 4:3 aspect ratio, and not a wide-screen aspect ratio like modern TVs:

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Which is why I've noticed when NBA show footage of older games, they either stretch, crop, or cut off sides of the image by zooming in so that the standard definition aspect ratio "fits" the HD aspect ratio better and avoid black bars:

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Which is crap, I would rather have the full image with black bars, or have them fill the black bars with some graphic.

I know that there is plenty of very old NBA footage that was shot on film that could be made to look amazing. But film restoration is expensive.
Learned things.
 
 
 
 
Question......how come we can take a movie from 1942 and make it HD and crystal clear but take an NBA game from the 90's and it looks so bad?
Movies are shot on film. NBA games in the 90s were shot on standard definition video.

Film has a much higher resolution than standard definition video.

Being an analogue medium, you can't really reduce film's resolution to numbers, but most estimate 35mm film to have a 4K resolution, which is 3840 x 2160 pixels. Then there is the whole issue of different types of film stock. Some are more grainy than others, so you might not see much of a difference between film scanned at 2K (bascially a HD 1920 x 1080 resolution) and 4K.

Standard definition video, which NBA games from the 90s were recorded with, on the other hand has a MUCH lower resolution, at only 640 x 480 pixels:





Furthermore, it has a more square-ish 4:3 aspect ratio, and not a wide-screen aspect ratio like modern TVs:




Which is why I've noticed when NBA show footage of older games, they either stretch, crop, or cut off sides of the image by zooming in so that the standard definition aspect ratio "fits" the HD aspect ratio better and avoid black bars:





Which is crap, I would rather have the full image with black bars, or have them fill the black bars with some graphic.

I know that there is plenty of very old NBA footage that was shot on film that could be made to look amazing. But film restoration is expensive.
Learned things.
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That was a very insightful post.
 
GP and Webber used to cook Kenny about 7 years ago.

GP always brings a good mixture of laughs, Emmitt Grammar, and Insight.
 
I've been in Vegas all week for CES. Anyone know what hotel Chuck and em stayin at? Wanna give Chuck and Shaq the hands for ruining Inside the NBA.
 

Facts to a certain extent, Only difference is that the team wasn't already established, but let's not Act like Both times LBJ became a Free agent he didn't combine with Players who he knew would easily bully the Rest of the East.

The Two years Prior to Bron joining the Heat Wade put up

08-09 - 30, 5, 7.5, 2 & 1 on 49%
09-10 - 27, 5, 6.5, 2 & 1 on 48%

D-Wade's team record wasn't good enough to win MVP but let's not act like he wasn't CLEARLY MVP caliber player. Literally the Best team Bron has Faced in the East since MIA was a team with a 22-23 yr old PG, Roy Hibbert & Lance Stephenson. So let's not act like he was itching for competition.

It's always been crazy to me that people who are fans of Bron or Wade criticize KD for his move because they set the precedent for this in modern ball. Superstars saw that and realized what time it was.
 
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