**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[sohi 23]

I mean Deng's best position is 4 and you're kinda stuck with that contact so... I get people think Julius still has potential or whatever but I'm just over him and his game. Sell him while he still has potential attached to him. In addition, once BI gets stronger I think his best position will be small ball 4 and I don't see Julius holding it down at the 5 like NAnce can.

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Can someone post that new Pelton / Chad Ford article?

 

[sohi 23]

Don't have 7 guys?

Brandon, D Lo, Zubac, Julius, Larry, and Tarik... Three of whom were lottery picks. U sound craze saying famb

But i plan to get into the lakers organization here soon... just waiting my time, earning my stripes

Tarik is gone next year. Nance is a role player. We can have debates about Julius but I feel like the main developmental players are Dlo, BI & Zubac

 

[lovehateself]

why would we want nance at the 5? 

we got the next coming of Marc Gasol there 

 

[sohi 23]

Obviously not, Zubac is who you want as the starter but Nance has played small ball 5 and will continue to do so under Luke. I'd expect 5-10 minutes of small ball centers a night with Luke. He's fairly consistent with that.

 

[MVP]

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El oh el

Man get him outta here.

 

[pmatic]

I didn't realize we had so many of us in the area. I work in DC so I can't get out of DC any faster.

I can't agree more. I'm in DC for another couple years hopefully, then I'm making my way back home to LA. I can't deal with it out here

Amen brother. |I

 

[daddyrabbit251]

Tarik is gone next year. Nance is a role player. We can have debates about Julius but I feel like the main developmental players are Dlo, BI & Zubac

u do realize players a developed into roles? If u want lance to be a stretch 4, he has to be trained on that. Its not 2k brah, u don't just pick a skill set and run with that

And if they wanted to get rid of Tarik that bad they would've done so last year when B Scott benched him but they signed him to 2yrs/$12M...

 

[daddyrabbit251]

And aside from Lou... Zombie, Tarik, and T Rob are all kinda tied for second highest in PER on this roster

 

[pmatic]

There is no place for Tarik unless you want to DNP Mozzy (Too much money committed), Randle, Nance and Zubac and to a much lesser extent Deng unless they trade one of these guys. It's impossible giving TRob minutes as is already.

 

[Lizakers]

there's no way we keep all these young'ns long term

Randle has been very inconsistent and his bad body language on the floor is hard to watch

We need Zu, BI and Dlo to become great in 3 years time

 

[lovehateself]

We need Zu, BI and Dlo to become great in 3 years time

why u do dis...

 

[CP1708]

Not really. I'd take my chances with Ball/Fultz over any of our young players except for maybe Dlo. And if we get our pick it's top 3 so the chance of getting a star is very high.

There aren't even any superstars out there worth trading for. Everyone talks about Paul George but he has Myles Turner and Indiana made hella moves this offseason and they're still struggling. If he played in a major market he'd be getting killed as a fake superstar but he plays in Indiana and broke his leg for team USA so nobody criticizes him.

Carmelo sucks.

Boogie? I'm good.

Jimmy Butler is the only one I'd want and Boston could offer more for him.

There are no secret get rich quick schemes here. Just load up on young talent and keep it pushing.

 

[sohi 23]

u do realize players a developed into roles? If u want lance to be a stretch 4, he has to be trained on that. Its not 2k brah, u don't just pick a skill set and run with that

And if they wanted to get rid of Tarik that bad they would've done so last year when B Scott benched him but they signed him to 2yrs/$12M...

For some reason I thought Black had an option on his contract for next year, my mistake.

But to the point, there's only 96 minutes available for bigs a game. How are we supposed to distribute minutes evenly among Moz, Nance, Zubac, Randle & Black? Eventually someone will have to go. In addition, Deng's best value is as a small ball 4, so he needs some of those minutes too. Finally, BI (not yet cuz he's way too weak, but in the future) will be best suited at the 4 too (maybe not the entire game but short bursts). There's a dearth of big men on this team and not enough minutes. Somebody is gunna have to go.

My thing about Nance is that everyone loves him, but he's way to injury prone and he's never going to be a 35 minute starter. Sure there's development there for him but he's already played 4 years in college, this is his 2nd year in the NBA. His room for growth isn't THAT high anymore. He kinda is who he is. A 20-25 minute energy guy who does it all off the bench. Nothing wrong with that. Every good team needs players like that. But let's not act like Nance is some type of star in the making. People love comparing him to Julius. What u have in Julius is a player who thinks he's a 35 minute per game star and struggles trying to live up to that role. What u have in Nance is a player who knows he's a 20-25 minute role player and excels in that role.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

There is no place for Tarik unless you want to DNP Mozzy (Too much money committed), Randle, Nance and Zubac and to a much lesser extent Deng unless they trade one of these guys. It's impossible giving TRob minutes as is already.

T Rob was playing so good too man... but b/c Mozzy is cashing in we almost obligated to give at least 20 mins a game

 

[essential1]

Be nice to make a Deng for Wilson Chandler swap.

Better fit at the 3 for us.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

For some reason I thought Black had an option on his contract for next year, my mistake.

But to the point, there's only 96 minutes available for bigs a game. How are we supposed to distribute means evenly among Moz, Nance, Zubac, Randle & Black? Eventually someone will have to go. In addition, Deng's best value is as a small ball 4, so he needs some of those minutes too. Finally, BI (not yet cuz he's way too weak, but in the future) will be best suited at the 4 too (maybe not the entire game but short bursts). There's a dearth of big men on this team and not enough minutes. Somebody is gunna have to go.

My thing about Nance is that everyone loves him, but he's way to injury prone and he's never going to be a 35 minute starter. Sure there's development there for him but he's already played 4 years in college, this is his 2nd year in the NBA. His room for growth isn't THAT high anymore. He kinda is who he is. A 20-25 minute energy guy who does it all off the bench. Nothing wrong with that. Every good team needs players like that. But let's not act like Nance is some type of star in the making. People love comparing him to Julius. What u have in Julius is a player who thinks he's a 35 minute per game star and struggles trying to live up to that role. What u have in Nance is a player who knows he's a 20-25 minute role player and excels in that role.

I don't have deng or mozzy featured b/c I'm hoping those contracts look better after this cap spike for teams looking for solid bodies and depth. Zu, Black, and Rob with Julius and Jr in the front court would be ideal for me next year. Each player brings something different to the table.

 

[daddyrabbit251]

After last night's game tho... I'd say Jordy is the least likely to get traded of all of the younger players unless his deal has a star that will help the team financially. He's too much of a fan favorite for a team that doesn't have superstar to generate that yearly revenue

 

[essential1]

No reason to keep Black. After next year, we won't be able to afford what he is, for what he could cost.

See a similar trend for Nance, but more optimistic we can keep him despite the need of cap for better players.

Love Tarik, but if you can attach him to Lou. and get a better fitting player for this team, then you need to.

 

[lovehateself]

After last night's game tho... I'd say Jordy is the least likely to get traded of all of the younger players unless his deal has a star that will help the team financially. He's too much of a fan favorite for a team that doesn't have superstar to generate that yearly revenue

you wont need to trade JC (who is on a very team friendly deal) cause NY and Lou probably dont figure into the next 2-3 years (unless, they too sign on for team friendly deals)

now losing NY or Lou wont hurt cause JC can fit into the 6th man role, but what the team will need/does need  is a defensive wing

 

[moonman818]

Pick and Mozgov for Cousins

Deng and Nance for Lavine

Lakers byke




Seriously tho I'm done with Nance, I don't see what the rest of you guys see in him.

He's been the biggest disappointment to me this season... with all the experience and age he has on the other guys I thought he woulda taken that next step

 

[MVP]

Pick and Mozgov for Cousins

Deng and Nance for Lavine

Lakers byke

Whiplash hack your account?

 

[sohi 23]

Nance is another who dodges all criticism cuz he was a late first round pick. Injury in the summer really screwed up his progress but then he got injured again during the season and hasn't looked the same since coming back. I'm still hopeful. Hopefully he remains injury free this summer and works on that jumper but like I said earlier, he kinda is what he is at this point.

 

[pmatic]

Big reason I can't commit to Nance full time is his knees and Crohn's disease. Might just limit him to being a 20 MPG bench player instead of a 32 MPG starter.

 

[lovehateself]

i love nance and his intangibles, but randle is the more talented player.

they both need to work on their shot 

nance is still hesitant taking the outside shot, whether its the play or him not having confidence  in it.

plus he has seemed very timid finishing around the basket as well since coming back from the injury. 

from what we saw and read, it seemed like he worked on the jumper and even stretching it out to the 3...but we just havent even seen it (granted due to milited play) 

if he can work on his shot and stretch out it out to the 3 point llne, he could be a robert horry kind of player

solid defensive guy who can nail a shot yet you dont want him getting 2 quick fouls if hes starting. 

 

[MVP]

Randle is more talented but doesn't play with effort all the time and needs the ball to impact the game.

Nance Jr. is less talented but the effort is always there and does the dirty work. As of right now we need both but if somehow going forward the talent will actually make Randle extendable.