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2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions
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I don't believe in pitchers winning the MVP. That's what the Cy Young award is for.
I don't believe in pitchers winning the MVP. That's what the Cy Young award is for.
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I hate pitchers getting MVP, but I feel like it has to go to Felix and and the NL MVP to Kershaw. Kershaw is so good it pisses me off. My G-d if they could do a redraft.
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I don't believe in pitchers winning the MVP. That's what the Cy Young award is for.
JV deserved it in '11.
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Price worked those knee pads last night
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JV did not deserve it in '11, Jose Bauitista did.
Pitchers should almost never get the MVP, unless they have insane seasons like Felix, Kershaw or Pedro in 00/99
Pitchers should almost never get the MVP, unless they have insane seasons like Felix, Kershaw or Pedro in 00/99
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I disagree. The only robbery was Hebrew Hammer over Matty.
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The guy who calls the dodgers games..wow so boring..can he talk any slower..adds no insight to the game either
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I would hav loved the see Hernandez vs price on TV today..wish it was on FS1 or MLB network
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You are just trolling right?
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I agree with this although Braun was fantastic that year. Brewers made the playoffs that year though. Braun was actually the better the best season and Kemp has been downhill ever since.
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Ellusbury, Bautista, Pedroia, maybe even Kinsler, pick anyone over Verlander in 11.
Pitching MVP's should only be reserved for historically dominant seasons, it bugs me that Verlander has a MVP and Pedro doesn't.
Pitching MVP's should only be reserved for historically dominant seasons, it bugs me that Verlander has a MVP and Pedro doesn't.
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I picked em at first, then backtracked and had em finishing second with a Wild Card berth.
For some reason I love the Royals. Angel Berrora was the homie in '03.
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Also, my Nats are looking real good right now. Tonight they resembled that 2012 team.
Concerned about Gio's location issues though. Through the 2nd inning tonight one of the Nats beat reporters said he's thrown 204 pitches in his last 9 innings :x
Concerned about Gio's location issues though. Through the 2nd inning tonight one of the Nats beat reporters said he's thrown 204 pitches in his last 9 innings :x
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His last start was like Salazar. 4.1 IP, 10 K, 100+ pitches. Something like that, uncanny.
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Wait, JV in '11 wasn't a historically dominant performance/season?
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no.
and If he had 20 wins instead of 24 no one would think it was "historically dominant".
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Null and void, the wins matter least to me in assessing a SP.
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I don't think he was better than Grenkie in 09, Halladay in 11, Randy Johnson in 04, ect ect.
and like I said his season doesn't stand out anymore than any of the other really good Cy Young seasons recently.
and like I said his season doesn't stand out anymore than any of the other really good Cy Young seasons recently.
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I don't believe in pitchers winning the MVP. That's what the Cy Young award is for.
If it's a historically great season like a Pedro year or Randy Johnson or a Felix of this year, it is deserved.
I don't see how it has to go to Felix. They both have claims but as of right now, Trout has a bit of a lead.
Playoffs does not mean he deserved it. Kemp had one of the better offensive seasons of the last few years.
It's not even his best season. He barely outperformed CC in '11. Ellsbury had one of the better all around seasons of the last decade and Bautista had one of the best offensive seasons of the last decade as well. Verlander has had two better seasons and no one mentions em. **** Bautista may have had a slightly better (or at least comparable season) than Kemp and gets no love that year.
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Pro: I care about the no-hitter against the Jays, WHIP, and overall value to Detroit that season.
His 2012 campaign is irrelevant to judging whether JV deserved it in '11.
I could also argue WAR but that's largely dependent on which system you use. ESPN, BR, FG, etc.
His 2012 campaign is irrelevant to judging whether JV deserved it in '11.
I could also argue WAR but that's largely dependent on which system you use. ESPN, BR, FG, etc.
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BR overrates Verlanders year.
His WHIP was driven by a abnormally low BABIP, which is mostly luck based.
some pitchers have the ability to influence their BABIP but it's a rare skill, Knuckleballers, Mark Bhurle,Jamie Moyer ect ect, Verlander doesn't appear to have this ability as his stays around league average.
His WHIP was driven by a abnormally low BABIP, which is mostly luck based.
some pitchers have the ability to influence their BABIP but it's a rare skill, Knuckleballers, Mark Bhurle,Jamie Moyer ect ect, Verlander doesn't appear to have this ability as his stays around league average.
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