RustyShackleford
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Why run an unimportant simulation at all then?Yeah it would cuz then you have to get in to details like why is this simulation being ran and what's powering it. If we're in a simulation about to create another indistinguishable reality has actual reality achieved/discovered an endless energy source? Then to what purpose would allowing that to happen accomplish.
If we can create the sim then chances are we aren't in one. However, if we are in one we risk the chance of the sim being ended.
I feel you but this is assuming there has to be a real reason behind the simulation. In my mind it would make more sense to assume our simulation is not necessarily important
and is just one of many which can be tied to the multiverse/alternate reality theories.
The simulation argument was made up by human beings in the first place and the hypothetical scenario involves a posthuman civilization capable of creating and running the sim.When applying our known natural limits and human ego to the idea we begin assuming an endless energy source would be required.
Why would that matter? Its a simulation not the matrix.If we are in simulation, 100 years our time could be literal nanoseconds in "real time".
Yeah, I know. Keep in mind if we are in a simulation, we are not real. Doesn't matter how time is passing in reality. We're never going to experience it unless the program of the simulation is changed.If we are in one and it's ended we wouldn't even know. We could have been rebooted countless times by now (deja vu, OOBE) and have no real clue.
This is flawed reasoning.This is why I used the phrase perfect simulation.
I liken it to Arthur C. Clarke's third law - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". If we are in a sim, average people questioning it is a sure sign of it being imperfect.
This is just one possibility in one line of reasoning.Inversely it could be a sign of glitching (woke) NPCs, hacks, or programmers coding data segments to test the limits of the program by having them influence others to recreate the simulation. Our sim could be 6 sims down, inception style.
Well as far as publicly known, there are no super computers running simulations. So it's not really the benchmark.I feel this but again it assumes that our presently known "simulated" human achievements are the benchmark.
The simulation hypothesis is very old. It isn't beholden to or shaped by just the media. Just imagination. Science and philosophy are the foundations of it. Another form of questioning reality which humanity has always done.These are all very good points though, this is such a weird subject to talk about because basically every possible point is debatable due to the nature of the subject. Our thoughts on this are shaped by the media we have consumed that widen our ideas of what our existence could be.
Why run an unimportant simulation at all then?
The simulation argument was made up by human beings in the first place and the hypothetical scenario involves a posthuman civilization capable of creating and running the sim.
I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about his necessarily a simulation. Also if it's not humans or post humans who or what is running the simulation? I mean it is a simulation by technological means.
This isn't the dream hypothesis of one of the other adjacent theories like brain in a vat.
Why would that matter? Its a simulation not the matrix.
Yeah, I know. Keep in mind if we are in a simulation, we are not real. Doesn't matter how time is passing in reality. We're never going to experience it unless the program of the simulation is changed.
This is flawed reasoning.
We could be in a perfect simulation and ppl can still question reality. Conceiving of a possibility does not make the simulation imperfect. Human being are capable of conceiving all sorts of possible and impossible scenarios and events. The simulation would be imperfect if humans could not conceive of the possibility that their reality is not real.
This is just one possibility in one line of reasoning.
Questioning if reality is a simulation could all be a part of the perfect simulation. Since if we're not in a perfect simulation ppl can still question whether reality is a simulation.
Well as far as publicly known, there are no super computers running simulations. So it's not really the benchmark.
Regardless, notice I said "we". I'm talking about human beings in that reply simulating reality when you bring up scientists trying to recreate the human brain.
The simulation hypothesis is very old. It isn't beholden to or shaped by just the media. Just imagination. Science and philosophy are the foundations of it. Another form of questioning reality which humanity has always done.
would it be wrong to say that the brain is the most complex thing in the universe?
Why are you assuming that it's unimportant to the ppl who do it everyday?Why run an unimportant simulation at all then?
Why not? People do it in video games every day. The Sims has been active since 2000.
I'm specifically talking about the simulation argument/theory.There are more theories than just post-human civilization running a simulation.
I'm not talking about what Elon said in that vid at all. I've already forgotten what he said while talking over dude that asked and bringing up how he had to ban the discussion in hot tubs. I mean he didn't even really say much. Everything I'm talking about is based on philosophy courses I took and discussions with professors and philosophers.I'm not talking about specifically Elon's idea of simulated reality.
That doesn't change anything I've said.A simulation itself is imitation of real world processes or systems. A computer could be running the supposed simulation for all we know.
I didn't say reality had an endless energy source. I said the simulation would need something like that for the simulation to create a simulation within itself.Relevance was you bringing up reality having an endless energy source.
You're kinda conflating the movie with the simulation argument. The simulation argument isn't stating that you or I are real human beings experiencing a simulation. All ppl within the simulation are a part of the program and not real. The simulation is being observed from without.The Matrix was a simulation, simulated reality specifically.
You're missing my point.Yes I agree. Going back to the previous point, this is why if we are being simmed then the endless energy wouldn't be necessary. 1000 sim years could be 11 real time seconds. Again to reference the Sims, days pass at a far different rate and you can even speed up time.
I don't see what advanced technology appearing to be like magic to a person ignorant of how that technology works has any meaning to the simulation argument.I can concede this point but I still feel Clarke's third applies.
I got that.I mean benchmark as in what we know and think humans are capable of in 2017 based on what we have currently in computing technology.
All I'm saying is questioning reality existed before that.And I didn't mean the media, I meant media - books, movies, music, whatever your preferred medium is.
That's cuz it's a popular movie that easily explains a certain approach to the topic of simulated realities to the laymen.There's a reason The Matrix is referenced so much when simulated realities come up.
i need new dreams...my ***** be lame af
last night i was stuck on top of a glass ledge high af. i hate heights.
weird thing was after being scared i realized i was dreaming and woke myself up
i need new dreams...my ***** be lame af
last night i was stuck on top of a glass ledge high af. i hate heights.
weird thing was after being scared i realized i was dreaming and woke myself up
this.
Originally Posted by KingFoamNYC
Blows my mind how when I'm in a certain state of sleep I can have such a heightened sexual or emotional feelings to a fictional person in my brain but in "real life" I can never reach those levels.
lol this reminds me of a popular Chinese story...I've had one specific dream in my life, that when I woke up, I wasn't sure what reality I was in... My dream was so very specific to the world and all the little things... Long story short, in my dream I was in an accident and in a coma for a number of years, and when I woke up from coma, everything was the same, but different... Just in the way of you jumped 5 years in the future... Sane world, new things; cars, video format, president, movie stars, ect... I spent days in the dream, like full days...
It was so very weird to wake up from that dream... I've never felt so disconnected from what real is... I've experienced vivid dreams since, but nothing to that nature... I hope to experience that type of dream again...
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this.
also I keep dreaming of this girl (about 5-6 dreams now) it's the same girl but her face is always not there. same voice, same everything but in my dreams she is always turned around or we're in a situation where I'm not looking at her and I have this deep feeling of love after waking up.
I don't eem love my gf this much