Black Culture Discussion Thread

[bradnsu]

gays need to learn that comparing their struggle to the african american struggle will never get them any sort of support.

Yea man people just need to stop giving them any type of time & attention all together....All it is with the HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT is media propaganda they brainwash people to say things like "I WAS BORN THIS WAY" "HOMOPHOBIC" "DISCRIMINATION AGAINST GAYS IS THE SAME AS RACISM" nobody was saying any of those things before 2011 & if you say you were you lying your ***** Off....It's like all of a Sudden the HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT came outta no where week after week somebody was announcing they were a HOMOSEXUAL...Still the main question is besides HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE FIGHTING FOR?? Nobody ever can answer that we I ask them they just talk in circles like "WELL YEA MAN YOU KNOW DISCRIMINATION" "OK WHAT OTHER DISCRIMINATION ARE THEY FACING??"

 

[tokes99]

The topic of Moors is by far the most confusing aspect of history I've dealt with so far.

definitely not the clearest, accounts of the moors can be pretty obtuse and lend themselves to misinterpretation...

gays need to learn that comparing their struggle to the african american struggle will never get them any sort of support.

Yea man people just need to stop giving them any type of time & attention all together....All it is with the HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT is media propaganda they brainwash people to say things like "I WAS BORN THIS WAY" "HOMOPHOBIC" "DISCRIMINATION AGAINST GAYS IS THE SAME AS RACISM" nobody was saying any of those things before 2011 & if you say you were you lying your ***** Off....It's like all of a Sudden the HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS MOVEMENT came outta no where week after week somebody was announcing they were a HOMOSEXUAL...Still the main question is besides HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGES WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE FIGHTING FOR?? Nobody ever can answer that we I ask them they just talk in circles like "WELL YEA MAN YOU KNOW DISCRIMINATION" "OK WHAT OTHER DISCRIMINATION ARE THEY FACING??"

well, the marriage things sounds like a relatively small thing, but it has economic implications, like tax status, healthcare, and i believe in some states, the ability to adopt may be under different restrictions than straight couples/people? but even socially you really can't imagine that they might face some discrimination? i mean if you were really curious you could actually find out by examining the arguments both for & against, but it seems you've mage up your mind that there isn't any validity and that its all a conspiracy...

 

[drones]

With Atlanta Hawks, A Prime Opportunity Opens For Much-Needed Black Ownership in the NBA

Four months later, the Atlanta Hawks’ ownership alliance has decided to sell the team in its entirety and not piecemeal. This step opens the way to accept bids from individuals or groups interested in purchasing the franchise.

About time.

The real issue now is about who takes over this club that is about as viable as any other franchise in the city. That is to say, it’s a mediocre property, in one sense. In another sense, it’s a precious commodity in that there are only 30 teams in the NBA, and owning one is nice for the portfolio.

Thirty teams and one majority Black owner—Michael Jordan. It’s time to increase that number, and the Hawks are the best place to start in the entire league, with its vast population of African-Americans who support the team so much that current majority owner Bruce Levenson revealed in emails his discontent with the lack of white people at home games. Seriously. This is the state of the team: Black people support a slightly above average product and the majority owner has a problem with it. Whatever happened to “the only color that matters is green” in business?

Apparently, to Levenson, green means more when it comes from whites and not Blacks, and that’s why he needs to be run out of Atlanta on the next Megabus.

The people responsible for accepting and approving bids should give special consideration to minorities in general, Blacks in particular. It would stand to reason that Black ownership would appreciate those who support a team that has been mediocre at best over the last two decades. A diversity specialist has been hired by the team, which is a decent start to addressing a big problem.

Still, the ocean-wide gap of white men owning teams made up of mostly Black players has to be bridged, starting in Atlanta.

And there are plenty of viable candidates, too. Dominique Wilkins, the team’s Hall of Famer who is the one tangible reminder of the successful years of the mid-1980s, surely is part of a group that will make a strong big.

Wilkins has never received the respect he deserved from the organization. When he was a vice president, he was among the lowest paid in the NBA. When he was available to work out and share his knowledge with players, coaches mindlessly rebuffed the idea. Now he serves as a color analyst, probably to stay connected to the team.

A Hawks owner would be an ideal scenario, however late, for Wilkins to take his proper place within the franchise.

There also has been talk about Chris Webber working with a group to purchase the team and entertainers who will join or create a group to make bids.

And there is a young businessman from Washington, DC, Darryl K. Washington, owner of DKW Communications, an IT company that has a gross annual backlog of more than $200 million in the past several years.

Washington maintains a home in Atlanta and was in the hunt for the Washington Wizards when they went up for sale a few years ago. He’s the kind of young, fresh mind that would


Darryl K. Washington

be committed to winning and creating a diverse working environment, an element desperately needed for a team where the majority owner sent out a racist email about too much Black involvement at games and the general manager (Danny Ferry) called a player of African descent (Luol Deng) a “liar and a cheat” because of his heritage.

The Hawks are valued at about $425 million, according to Forbes magazine’s estimates from a year ago. The owners decided to go with Levenson and sell their portions of the team, no doubt a result of the Los Angeles Clippers being (over)sold for $2 billion after Donald Sterling was forced to sell his team following release of phone recordings of racist rants against Black people.

The Hawks are not worth that much. But they merit ownership that represents the city, not the typical NBA ownership that represents a lack of diversity that has to be changed.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/01...tunity-opens-much-needed-black-ownership-nba/

 

[truth-serum]

Not in favor of whites selling a crappy product to blacks. Let them keep their garbage franchise. Why should blacks buy a second tier product and take the risks that go along with it? They damn sure wouldn't be selling it to black folk if it was the Lakers, heat, spurs, Knicks etc

 

[drones]

Not in favor of whites selling a crappy product to blacks. Let them keep their garbage franchise. Why should blacks buy a second tier product and take the risks that go along with it? They damn sure wouldn't be selling it to black folk if it was the Lakers, heat, spurs, Knicks etc

I agree in the sense that the Hawks are currently one of the least accomplished franchises.  Their attendance is abysmal, black fans especially don't show up due in no small part to Danny Ferry's email and the owner's email...but look at the potential there is.  Atlanta is home to a ton of black players who love the nightlife there, and they play in one of the blackest cities in the league.  They haven't been a destination franchise but with the right people (US) running it the Hawks could be transformed into a place free agents want to sign. 

Once black ownership stepped in and kicks Ferry out of the door, black fans would come back and support a franchise that they could be proud of, which is the exact opposite of what they have now.

And don't look now but the Hawks are the leading team in the East...they might be even better by the time the team sells.

 

[trueprada]

hawks lackin that star to fill seats

another black owner would be great tho

 

[tay1]

Quote:

Not in favor of whites selling a crappy product to blacks. Let them keep their garbage franchise. Why should blacks buy a second tier product and take the risks that go along with it? They damn sure wouldn't be selling it to black folk if it was the Lakers, heat, spurs, Knicks etc

I don't see how you can't see this as being a good thing. Yeah the market isn't as big as LA, but look at what they're doing now. And if they were to land a Lebron like talent, things will only get better. Also, it's  Atlanta. This isn't Cleveland or Oklahoma City.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

They're the best team in the east right now. I wouldn't exactly call them a second tier product. This isn't the Magic we're talking about.

 

[mr marcus]

a black owner anywhere in the NBA is a good thing. Just don't be like Bob johnson

 

[38816]

i just came in here to say, the dudes quoting me,

i don't agree with yall at all....i have no idea what the african slavery comment meant...

and as far as all that gay hate.....

you gotta let that hate go.


all i said was, if gay people want to rally non-gay support, the worst way possible is to trivialize the struggle of those groups.


im all for gay rights and gay people, just don't equate your fight for marriage rights with the fights of people who had tax-dollar endorsed police dogs attacking them.

just don't.

if you want support, that is.

 

[bradnsu]

and as far as all that gay hate.....

you gotta let that hate go.


all i said was, if gay people want to rally non-gay support, the worst way possible is to trivialize the struggle of those groups.


im all for gay rights and gay people, just don't equate your fight for marriage rights with the fights of people who had tax-dollar endorsed police dogs attacking them.

just don't.

if you want support, that is.

ONCE AGAIN THE "GAY HATE" terms pop up again...As I said before I speak for myself I'm not with HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS because I'm not one I don't Identify with them....I'm concerned with the issues with MY PEOPLE as a COMMUNITY as a whole....I can't understand some BLACK people if you are not a HOMOSEXUAL what's your purpose for fighting for their rights with all the issues thats still plaguing our community I just don't get it....That's like going to help your neighbors when you need help too...

 

[drones]

I don't think anyone in here hates gay people.  The thing is we shouldn't cape for gays because they're not caping for us.

 

[bradnsu]

I don't think anyone in here hates gay people.  The thing is we shouldn't cape for gays because they're not caping for us.

Basically man
NATIVE AMERICANS FIGHT FOR NATIVE AMERICANS RIGHTS AS WELL AS
ASIANS,ARABS,LATINOS,HOMOSEXUALS ETC...BLACK FOLKS WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WANNA FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY & "HUMAN RIGHTS" WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE FIGHTING FOR THERE OWN PEOPLE WE FIGHTING FOR EVERYBODY....SMFH

 

[EddieDoyers]

Basically man
NATIVE AMERICANS FIGHT FOR NATIVE AMERICANS RIGHTS AS WELL AS
ASIANS,ARABS,LATINOS,HOMOSEXUALS ETC...BLACK FOLKS WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WANNA FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY & "HUMAN RIGHTS" WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE FIGHTING FOR THERE OWN PEOPLE WE FIGHTING FOR EVERYBODY....SMFH

that's a ridiculous assumption to say
Minorities have helped each other throughout the years
And how do homosexuals affect our straight lifestyle?
This is just beyond race, this is about sexual freedom, someone that everyone is entitled to
I sure wouldn't want to be looked down for liking women, so people who look down on others for liking their own sex are hypocrites

 

[drones]

This is just beyond race

Aw here we go...SWS alert.  Make a gay rights thread if you're so worried about them, this is explicitly a thread about race and the African race in particular.  Why are you in here if it's bothering you that we're not campaigning for gay rights?

 

[EddieDoyers]

And since I found this thread, I would like to say that without black culture, many Asian Americans would be lost trying to assimilate into White America.

Aw here we go...SWS alert.  Make a gay rights thread if you're so worried about them, this is explicitly a thread about race and the African race in particular.  Why are you in here if it's bothering you that we're not campaigning for gay rights?

That's the best "argument" you can come up with?
FOH
There are many black gays out there....would you really reject them because they are gay?

 

[bradnsu]

Homophobic ramblings in disguise. Why the divide between black folks and gays, is being gay a race? There aren't gay black people who face probably twice the discrimination as a straight black man?


Why can't a gay black person be your own people?

HOW LONG HAS HOMOPHOBIC BEEN IN YOU VOCABULARY MY FRIEND BEFORE OR AFTER THE MEDIA FORCED IT ON US??? & Yes of course they are BLACK but to say HOMOSEXUALS face twice the descrimination is totally insane black folks still facing housing & job discrimination...I swear in my 29 yrs on earth I have never seen straight dudes riding for homosexual rights like some have been doing for the last 3......Let's keep it funky only reason dudes defending cause the masses are doing it knowing damn well they could careless about HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS 5-10 yrs ago...

 

[drones]

And since I found this thread, I would like to say that without black culture, many Asian Americans would be lost trying to assimilate into White America.
That's the best "argument" you can come up with?
FOH
There are many black gays out there....would you really reject them because they are gay?

This isn't an 'argument' because I only 'argue' with my equals.  Everyone else I teach, so don't get it twisted. 

Having said that, you're deflecting all over the place.  Nobody said anything about rejecting black gays.  Because black gays are affected by white supremacist gays just the same so dead that nonsense.  The point that you're not seeming to grasp is that the gay struggle is not parallel to the black struggle.  And we don't have time to worry about other groups' issues.  You're free to pick up that banner and wave it like you so badly want us to do, but that's not our battle to fight.  Go ahead and start up a gay rights discussion thread and argue with people in there. 

 

[bradnsu]

Aw here we go...SWS alert.  Make a gay rights thread if you're so worried about them, this is explicitly a thread about race and the African race in particular.  Why are you in here if it's bothering you that we're not campaigning for gay rights?

YEA REALLY MAN ARGUING WITH THESE DUDES IS POINTLESS & COUNTERPRODUCTIVE....READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD NOBODY WANNA KEEP GOING BACK & FORTH ABOUT HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS IF YOU WANNA DO THAT START A SEPARATE THREAD MAN....

 

[EddieDoyers]

This isn't an 'argument' because I only 'argue' with my equals.  Everyone else I teach, so don't get it twisted. 

Having said that, you're deflecting all over the place.  Nobody said anything about rejecting black gays.  Because black gays are affected by white supremacist gays just the same so dead that nonsense.  The point that you're not seeming to grasp is that the gay struggle is not parallel to the black struggle.  And we don't have time to worry about other groups' issues.  You're free to pick up that banner and wave it like you so badly want us to do, but that's not our battle to fight.  Go ahead and start up a gay rights discussion thread and argue with people in there. 

OK I can understand that

Just this left me a little befuddled at the lack of acceptance

The thing is we shouldn't cape for gays because they're not caping for us.

But it's whatever, don't want to keep butting heads for a difference of opinions
Peace

 

[bradnsu]

Media blah blah


Forced on us blah blah



What about white rights and problems



You sound like your oppressors. You my friend are an undeserving hypocrite. You're just as socialized as white racists.






In the last 3 years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayard_Rustin


You are just as bad as they are.

listen man I'm not wasting anymore energy going back & forth with you discusssion with you is done if you trying to spark a argument off dip out of this thread cause you not adding anything to this thread...

 

[krystyles26]

Its amazin how ppl can compare sexual preference to racial struggle esp considering what was to to blk americas for 400+ yrs...i DONT care who u wanna have sexual relations with. To me this argument is a huge deflection to the main problems. Ppl fail to realize that Blk gays are RACIALLY discriminated against like straight blk men. Let the gays be gay but please stop comparing struggles cuz they are totally different.

 

[bradnsu]

Its amazin how ppl can compare sexual preference to racial struggle esp considering what was to to blk americas for 400+ yrs...i DONT care who u wanna have sexual relations with. To me this argument is a huge deflection to the main problems. Ppl fail to realize that Blk gays are RACIALLY discriminated against like straight blk men. Let the gays be gay but please stop comparing struggles cuz they are totally different.

What's even more amazing is how these dudes that rarely or never post in this thread will seemingly come out of no where to disrupt & start arguments in this thread....

 

[smangalang]

What's even more amazing is how these dudes that rarely or never post in this thread will seemingly come out of no where to disrupt & start arguments in this thread....

My good sir we like to call those people agents

Gotta do 'em like Neo.

BLOCKED!

 

[tay1]

I know most here won't probably see it, but I didn't know Selma was directed by a black woman. Also, it has a perfect RT rating and getting rave reviews overall. I just may see it to support.