Dutch politicians vote to ban sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2025

[dankenstien88]

The Netherlands is known for its love of bicycles, green energy and liberal thinking. If you've ever been to Amsterdam, you'll know all about that.

Today, although not all that fitting with a stereotypical Holland, petrol and diesel cars remain significant in the European nation. But that might be about to change.

Dutch politicians have just voted in favour of a motion that would put an end to the sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2025. The country's rulers, it seems, see entirely electric avenues in the foreseeable future. Currently, electric car ownership in the Netherlands is just under 10%.

The vote at this stage has only passed through the lower house of parliament in the Netherlands. It also needs to be approved by the Dutch senate to become legally binding, The Guardian writes.

Still, this remains a bold step towards the future of automobiles – a country fuelled and transported by electricity (and bikes and boats). It's certainly a sign that Dutch officials want to reduce pollution and begin phasing out motorcars as we know them, and have known them for decades.

The motion was initially proposed by the Labour Party (PvdA), which is part of the country's coalition government. Its aim and focus to begin with was to ban petrol and diesel cars completely. However, the plan was diluted, evidently.

Instead, were the move to come to pass it would now put an end to sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2025, or at least that would be the government's intention. It might prove easier said than done, we feel.

Petrol and diesel cars already on the road would be allowed to continue. It'd be a very slow burn to see an end resolutely.

Although the vote came out in favour in Dutch parliament, many oppose the idea, including some in the coalition.

The centre-right party the VVD, which is part of the coalition, has some of those people against the ban. VVD leader Halbe Zijlstra called the plan "unrealistic", according the Dutch state broadcaster NOS.

But the PvdA is pushing on. Leader Diederik Samsom says the motion is feasible and told Dutch media that "we are ambitious, perhaps other parties are less so".

http://www.alphr.com/cars/1003241/d...o-ban-sales-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2025

 

[dopeness]

 

[doublemesh96]

 

[ninjahood]

Liberals telling you what you can buy and what you cant....

 

[dathbgboy]

Ninjahood upset the Dutch won't let him get the Hemi in 2025

 

[RIP sleazyy]

 

[ninjahood]

Ninjahood upset the Dutch won't let him get the Hemi in 2025

All it does is confirm what i already knew...liberals hate cars. U gonna force people into buying electric cars they dont want? Gee wiz

That BS cafe mandate we might have here is da same veiled attempt to do that here in da states by outlawing performance cars..and soon, combustion engines period.

 

[playing 4 keeps]

There's no replacement for displacement

 

[slighted]

Let's see the Netherlands implement this first and the subsequent results.

 

[playing 4 keeps]

Pointless as you still need gas/diesel powered trucks to move goods like food amd consumables. It would be costly to replace all those trucks and inefficient

 

[ninjahood]

Pointless as you still need gas/diesel powered trucks to move goods like food amd consumables. It would be costly to replace all those trucks and inefficient

They want everyone in

:x

 

[dopeness]

Da HEMI could be electric though 

 

 

[dathbgboy]

Ninjahood upset the Dutch won't let him get the Hemi in 2025

All it does is confirm what i already knew...liberals hate cars. U gonna force people into buying electric cars they dont want? Gee wiz

That BS cafe mandate we might have here is da same veiled attempt to do that here in da states by outlawing performance cars..and soon, combustion engines period.

Well if the gas corporations would block the sell of alternative fuels, we'd all be better off. Some things the government does is the effect stemming from the cause of greed that the corporations have put in place. There's literally only two viable options for powering cars, gas/diesel or electric.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Pointless as you still need gas/diesel powered trucks to move goods like food amd consumables. It would be costly to replace all those trucks and inefficient

Petrol and diesel cars already on the road would be allowed to continue. It'd be a very slow burn to see an end resolutely.

 

[doublemesh96]

We are completely within our abilities to have dope cars that look the same and perform as well without a combustion powered engine. The oil industry has a monopoly on transportation and that's the issue

 

[tomdiginson]

Another *** backwards country.

 

[ninjahood]

We are completely within our abilities to have dope cars that look the same and perform as well without a combustion powered engine. The oil industry has a monopoly on transportation and that's the issue

Electric cars been around since day 1 of automotive history..they Never caught on for a reason.

Its called you let da market decide what it wants to buy, and stop acting like you're a nanny that knows better...

 

[yeah]

Da 90 kWh > da hemi

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Da 90 kWh > da hemi

Lightweight agree.

I hope the stranglehold of the oil industry is loosened so we can see some actual cool, affordable electric vehicles coming out.

 

[ninjahood]

Da 90 kWh > da hemi

Lightweight agree.

I hope the stranglehold of the oil industry is loosened so we can see some actual cool, affordable electric vehicles coming out.

Its not da government's job to pick winners and losers....

 

[Mark Antony]

Extreme, but let's see what happens. There's been a ton of innovation since CAFE talk.

 

[ninjahood]

Extreme, but let's see what happens. There's been a ton of innovation since CAFE talk.

What fracking? Guess who's against that too?

 

[Belgium]

It's a little too soon for such drastic measures imo. Not on board with this. There need to be better and more affordable electric options.
And like someone else said what about large transports?
Besides, would anything stop them from taking a quick trip across the border and buying a car here in Belgium or France?

 

[rollout]

Pure electric cars are essentially powered by the powerplant that supplied the electricity. So electric cars are not even green/clean, themselves, unless that electricity was generated by wind or hydro power. (I don't count solar as truly green/clean b/c the production of solar panels requires toxic chemicals and nuclear power creates radioactive waste.) Not to mention that anytime you transfer/store energy, there is inherent loss.

Here are the powerplants in the Netherlands:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_the_Netherlands
 

The vast majority are fossil fuel powered. So going to electric cars will just be an illusion that they are going green, as electric cars are just using the power generated by these coal and natural gas powerplants, but with even worse efficiency than straight outta the plant.

#fail

 

[andretti]

:x

 
Da HEMI could be electric though   

It's not possible to have hemispherical combustion... Nevermind.