Originally Posted by RaWeX05
^ You guys are both good posters, but nobody is reading all that.
R thrown my way. my apologies.
Originally Posted by RaWeX05
^ You guys are both good posters, but nobody is reading all that.
R thrown my way. my apologies.
Faint Dj3 wrote:word, i love the show and from what little i read from both of the posts was your problem with the editing among other things...
but hey its a tough show to make, so much material and only less that 10hrs a season to produce.
I think you're talking bout a different kind of editing. You mean like what the show chooses to keep, cut or change from the book.
I mean like as a TV show, what order, pace and tone the show has from scene to scene and how that works to making a whole episode that flows and works. As a TV show, I felt like this season's been really inconsistent, bland and really unfocused in a lot of spots, even though plenty of interesting and well done stuff happened.
RaWeX05 wrote:
^ You guys are both good posters, but nobody is reading all that.
I read it.
The way I feel about the last episode is...if there's gonna be so little of the aftermath of Blackwater, then Blackwater should've been the finale.
Put this episode before it and move some of the prep stuff in the beginning of Blackwater into it. Then add the aftermath in King's Landing/Dragonstone and the whitewalker ending to the Blackwater finale.
Everyone thought they were gonna blend in the House of the Undying, Theon getting his at Winterfell and maybe the wildlings into the Blackwater episode, because the show built all this momentum up for all of those storylines at the same time...then had an episode where nothing happened just to get em ready...to be ignored while they do the battle by itself...People can't complain about only 10 episodes, when this show stalls like that.
Now...normally I don't hold the book against the show, but for Dany and Jon Snow, I'll make an exception.
Dany in the book is supposed to feel trapped in that maze. It's supposed to feel like she'd been there forever with no end in sight. Instead it was a month ago that her dragons got stolen. It took her 3 episodes of stalling to get across town, and then in one scene she walks through the whole House of the Undying, just to show that yes, dragons breathe fire.
Your explanation of Dany in the House of the Undying is better than what the show gave us. You basically described it as the purgatory scenes in What Dreams May Come, but instead it feels to me like we just got some hallucinations, then surprise, multiple man gives his villain speech annnnnd dragon ex machina, the end.
I've only read the first two books, so I'm not bringing any real baggage for the future past what the show puts out. I feel like she's in almost the exact same position she was in to start the season. She already learned not to trust people after that witch sacrificed her baby for nothing. It's just now her dragons are a little stronger. I got it that chick was the mother of dragons when she slept on a burning funeral pyre and brought 3 stone dragon eggs back to life. All I really got out of her story this season was that weird, annoying people want her dragons, the end. Oh and Ser Jorah wants to smash.
It was a really nice, ironic touch though, that they ended up stealing all the golden cups, when that was the Dothraki's first impulse at that party.
Jon Snow...Jon and Qhorin getting chased by the wildlings was one of the best parts of ACOK. You get a real feel for his character, for his respect for Qhorin almost like a father-figure, for how much of a big deal Qhorin is to the Night's Watch, for how powerful the wildings and some really important ideas to what a war between the wildlings and the Night's Watch would be like. Instead...that storyline was over 2 episodes ago and basically got replaced by Ygritte dryhumping and Sam randomly running into whitewalkers. I get it...but I don't see why they couldn't do it. When Ygritte ran and Jon saw all the wildlings, they could've started the chase then and had real stakes to that storyline. Have Ygritte save him in the end instead.
I love how Brienne and Jaime is like a reverse of Jon and Ygritte. Those two are the best.
And Winterfell...I'm just preparing myself for disappointment. This show refuses to do flashbacks, so I know they're just gonna read off a letter what happened between Theon getting knocked out and Winterfell in ashes, instead of showing it. I'm still really curious as to what the hell happened, though.
I tried to keep it short too.
Wow. That's ill. If I were rich I wouldn't hesitate to buy. Who is that lady sitting in it?
Blackwater needed its own dedicated episode. Even though their are multiple storylines goin on at the sametime, Blackwater was the key point of ACOK/S2. I agree that the show did lag at times and they included some non-essential scenes throughout the season, but I dont think they could have blended any of the other storylines into the Blackwater EP.
I'll have to go back and re-read, but if memory serves me correctly, I dont think that Dany's character developed all that much in ACOK. She is still a whiny child trying to learn to be a leader of people. She is still in pursuit of her ultimate goal of raising an army to go back to Westeros and regain the Iron Throne. There wasn't a whole lot to work with (material wise from ACOK) to begin with.
yea the writers/producers really pooped the bed with this one. I really enjoy the North of the Wall story in the books, especially the Jon/Ygritte relationship, but the TV version seems really forced and does not even begin to go into enough detail about the character development and the importance of the relationship between the free folk and those South of the Wall (or hell, even the relationshiop between the Nights Watch and the free folk). I might be the only person who didnt really care for the whitewalker scene in the finale. That just seemed a bit too forced.
Keep hope alive friend. Again, no spoilers but I think that they can explain what happens at Winterfell without the use of flashbacks or a cliffsnotes type of "letter from a raven" copout. Based on the leaks about S3 character castings, it looks somewhat likely that they can and will do a decent job of it.
Originally Posted by Nickthestick91
I assume this is a stupid question to ask but would you guys recommend reading the books? It seems like there's just too much going on for film to convey what was actually written in the novels. I see some of them are in excess of 900 pages. Longest books I've ever read gotta be either the later Harry Potters or The Girl with The Dragon Tattoos (which were painfully long and slow).
10. No Big Walder and Little Walder
8. The Odyssey of Ros
5. More for Jaime to do
2. Robb Stark's love story
It's interesting what they're doing with Dani. They've taken out stuff and characters as well. I don't like that they made Doreah a traitor and they got rid of both Irri and Jhiqui. There were scenes with Irri that I wanted to see on the show
Originally Posted by Alchemist IQ
just saw this on g+...lmao.
