January '15 No-Fap Challenge vol: the entire year is too much

[quote name="shoeking2101"]Fapping is what I would use to KO and go to bed. Without it I stay up hella late :x[/quote]Why do you feel that's wrong? Not arguing with you. Just curious. :smile:

(Should also be noted that I'm not asking anyone's opinion of whether they approve of me asking him, or anyone, a question. I'm curious why he thinks that's wrong or needs to change. Simple. :smile: )
 
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DarthSka said:
Why do you feel that's wrong? Not arguing with you. Just curious. :smile:

(Should also be noted that I'm not asking if anyone's opinion of whether they approve of me asking him, or anyone, a question. I'm curious why he thinks that's wrong or needs to change. Simple. :smile: )
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Well for me personally, it just became habit to fap before I went to sleep. I feel like that's an issue. I'm depedent upon fapping to sleep. I want to naturally be able to fall asleep without fapping. That's literally at least once a day i'm fapping (most days it's more than once) and that's resulted in my wood getting softer and softer.
 
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shoeking2101 said:
Fontaine said:
Everyone agrees that masturbation is natural. nobody argued that or spoke against it... it's the PORN that's the problem.
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Just catching up reading the dialogue in the thread, and this got to me. For me personally, Porn isn't the problem. I can literally not watch porn for two months without breaking a sweat. In most cases, Porn is just too fake and not realistic and it stops me from getting off. I induldge in it from time to time, but it for sure isn't something that I could get addicted to. Now Masturbation? :smh: :smh: My wood has gotten a bit softer from that alone, without porn.

So in reference to your post, I think both Porn and Masturbation can and are the problem. If you just masturbated without the porn, you would still have erectile issues and such.
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Do you mind if I clarify further?

If you do mind, don't respond. Simple as that. :lol:

But if you don't mind:


It sounds like what you're saying is that porn isn't the problem but masturbation can cause erectile issues. Just, that's it? Period? You're saying that masturbation, at all, can cause erectile issues?
 
shoeking2101 said:
DarthSka said:
Why do you feel that's wrong? Not arguing with you. Just curious. :smile:

(Should also be noted that I'm not asking if anyone's opinion of whether they approve of me asking him, or anyone, a question. I'm curious why he thinks that's wrong or needs to change. Simple. :smile: )
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Well for me personally, it just became habit to fap before I went to sleep. I feel like that's an issue. I'm depedent upon fapping to sleep. I want to naturally be able to fall asleep without fapping. That's literally at least once a day i'm fapping (most days it's more than once) and that's resulted in my wood getting softer and softer.
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Makes sense. Thanks. :smile:
 
DarthSka said:
Do you mind if I clarify further?

If you do mind, don't respond. Simple as that. :lol:

But if you don't mind:


It sounds like what you're saying is that porn isn't the problem but masturbation can cause erectile issues. Just, that's it? Period? You're saying that masturbation, at all, can cause erectile issues?
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If you masturbate excessively, it'll cause Erectile issues, regardless if you're masturbating to porn or not. They may go hand in hand with a lot of people, but for me they genuinely don't. Theoretically speaking, you could (Or should be able to) watch porn all day and nothing will happen as far as erectile issues and such.
 
The mental effects of masturbation outweigh the mental effects of just watching porn.

I could watch porn all day. It actually inspires me to go out and get some females. as long as I dont masturbate
Once I masturbate all my energy towards the cause is gone and I feel like a loser so its a double whammy
 
LarryEastwood said:
The mental effects of masturbation outweigh the mental effects of just watching porn.

I could watch porn all day. It actually inspires me to go out and get some females. as long as I dont masturbate
Once I masturbate all my energy towards the cause is gone and I feel like a loser so its a double whammy
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U got that backwards. Masturbation excessively is not as bad as porn. Watching porn is a mental thing. Mental issues usually are harder to break. Porn changes your perception of women. But physical things like masturbation only require u to keep your hands out your pants. which seems easier.
 
Is it possible to watch a lot or porn but still have a respectable and realistic view of women?
 
krazy88s said:
Is it possible to watch a lot or porn but still have a respectable and realistic view of women?
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It's definitely possible, why wouldn't it be? Even in the heat of all that sexual energy that arises from in that moment of watching porn, I can differentiate between real life and fake. I know I only speak for myself, but I would imagine that others do this as well.
 
clarkchaz1988 said:
U got that backwards. Masturbation excessively is not as bad as porn. Watching porn is a mental thing. Mental issues usually are harder to break. Porn changes your perception of women. But physical things like masturbation only require u to keep your hands out your pants. which seems easier.
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Masturbating excessively is as bad as watching porn.
 
clarkchaz1988 said:
U got that backwards. Masturbation excessively is not as bad as porn. Watching porn is a mental thing. Mental issues usually are harder to break. Porn changes your perception of women. But physical things like masturbation only require u to keep your hands out your pants. which seems easier.
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I don''t know I haven't fapped in 23 days and I feel fantastic but I still watch pron in slight increments and I look at women the same.....Could just be me personally
 
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clarkchaz1988 said:
U got that backwards. Masturbation excessively is not as bad as porn. Watching porn is a mental thing. Mental issues usually are harder to break. Porn changes your perception of women. But physical things like masturbation only require u to keep your hands out your pants. which seems easier.
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Masturbating excessively is as bad as watching porn.
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This. They are on equal levels. Stopping one and continuing to do the other is like in Hey Arnold when Harold went on a diet and started eating 12 50% fat Mr. Fudgies instead of 6 regular Mr. Fudgies

 
 
And there's that.

People stuck thinking like there's only one version of something. :\

It's like:
"There is porn... which is all disgusting and vile and damaging and addictive... or there's no porn."

"There is fapping... which is natural but always harmful and always causes erectile dysfunction and always should be avoided... or there's restraint."

I don't think people realize how many millions of people watch porn and 'fap' and literally only want to quit because they've been shamed into believing that they should.

MILLIONS.

And tons of them are reading this thread, even participating because they know they're supposed to.

Sure, there are those that have a healthy view of masturbation and porn, and they just want to participate in this challenge.

Nothing wrong with that. :smokin

Not one of my posts has anything to do with those people, and nothing I've said in here should affect them in any way. :smile:
 
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I think most want to quit because of shaming. A few of posts here want to quit is because of possible erectile dysfunction.
 
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I don't even wanna quit fapping though. I just wanna stop fapping so much. No matter how many yambs I can get, I still feel like I fap excessively. You know it's excessive when your hard on isn't as hard or big as it could be. Once that started happening for me, that was my que to do this. Hopefully after 30 days I can ease back into fapping, like once every week or two, I don't think that's bad or shameful at all.

Literally the last thing one should be thinking about when it comes to fapping and porn is being ashamed :lol: that's so damn childish
 
I didnt stop because of shaming thats crazy. One thread I was lurking and a few vids on the subject (ones that I've posted ITT already) and was just like "Nah not letting that happen to me". They put the fear in my heart.
 
shoeking2101 said:
I don't even wanna quit fapping though. I just wanna stop fapping so much.
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I hear ya. :lol:
shoeking2101 said:
No matter how many yambs I can get, I still feel like I fap excessively.
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Again, nothing wrong with personal challenges. :smokin
shoeking2101 said:
Hopefully after 30 days I can ease back into fapping, like once every week or two, I don't think that's bad or shameful at all.
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Good luck. :smokin
shoeking2101 said:
Literally the last thing one should be thinking about when it comes to fapping and porn is being ashamed :lol: that's so damn childish
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And so prevalent, unfortunately.
 
Flatline **** lowkey got me buggin. :x

Still in, albeit because it feels like I couldn't eliminate myself even if I wanted to right now. :lol:

Nonetheless, closing in on Day 26...:pimp:
 
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