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I’m not sure if he has been posted in here yet. But I feel like he is all of us:



The common theme here is we have over-achieving average role players in the reg season and turn into low IQ bum players when it matters most. Kinda makes you wonder why some of these bums never found a permanent home over the years
 
Nobody is saying they don't matter...

Like CP said the heat went crazy from 3...

Is that an adjustment, game plan or tactics?

Or did shots just fall?
 
Wow look at Miami
#8 beating #1 on the road
No Jimmy Butler

And we’ve lost 10 straight to Denver

Are we sure coaching and game planning and tactics and adjustments don’t matter?

Malone made Bron miss a wide open 3?

Ham couldn't prevent Jamal from bussin in AD's eye?
 
The common theme here is we have over-achieving average role players in the reg season and turn into low IQ bum players when it matters most. Kinda makes you wonder why some of these bums never found a permanent home over the years
It’s so obvious it’s sad. The players match the coach in my eyes.
 
Spoelstra is 10-3 when his team trails 0-1 in a series

Is that adjustments or did players just make shots every game 2?
 
Nobody is saying they don't matter...

Like CP said the heat went crazy from 3...

Is that an adjustment, game plan or tactics?

Or did shots just fall?

Putting players in position to succeed is part of coaching. There were clear tactical things the Heat did on both ends after game one on both ends. Of course hitting 3s is important to them and the main reason they won.

They also made a concerted effort to pay though Bam which wasn't the case in game 1. And less zone on defense. That's an 'adjustment'.
 
Spoelstra is 10-3 when his team trails 0-1 in a series

Is that adjustments or did players just make shots every game 2?

So many variables.....

Once again not saying that adjustments and all that doesn't matter...

But there has to be some sort of context...

And I damn sure ain't looking up those games because ultimately I don't care about what he has done with the heat...

I only care about the Lakers.
 
Putting players in position to succeed is part of coaching. There were clear tactical things the Heat did on both ends after game one on both ends. Of course hitting 3s is important to them and the main reason they won.

They also made a concerted effort to pay though Bam which wasn't the case in game 1. And less zone on defense. That's an 'adjustment'.

And when they get eliminated next week......?
 
Putting players in position to succeed is part of coaching. There were clear tactical things the Heat did on both ends after game one on both ends. Of course hitting 3s is important to them and the main reason they won.

They also made a concerted effort to pay though Bam which wasn't the case in game 1. And less zone on defense. That's an 'adjustment'.

I don't disagree...

But talk to me about that if they actually win the series.

1 game is cool. If they win the series then it's an entirely different conversation.
 
Last thing I'm gonna say on this is both things can be true.

Our coaching 100% could be better.

But some of our players need to play much better as well.

Rui, AR, Anyone from the bench besides TP need to play better tomorrow.
 


All these missed bunnies are being put on coaching.......

#Context


A coaches job is to put their players in the most advantageous position to be successful. Period. There are many different ways/strengths to do this.

It would take a blind man to not see they aren’t trained. Period. They left 15 points on the board off pure execution & not knowing how to read pick & rolls. PICK AND ROLL!!!
 
Last thing I'm gonna say on this is both things can be true.

Our coaching 100% could be better.

But some of our players need to play much better as well.

Rui, AR, Anyone from the bench besides TP need to play better tomorrow.
Very true. Both things can be true.
That’s why I said the players match the coach.
 
Yeeees??? I’m not doing anything else in the moment. I’ll play this intelligent game with you.

Go ahead….

I was reading yours and his post, and you speak of average players in the regular season that get exposed in the playoffs.......would that......not be on the GM, who built the roster? :nerd:
 
A coaches job is to put their players in the most advantageous position to be successful. Period. There are many different ways/strengths to do this.

It would take a blind man to not see they aren’t trained. Period. They left 15 points on the board off pure execution & not knowing how to read pick & rolls. PICK AND ROLL!!!

The entire NBA is currently based on those pick and rolls. It's not a magical offense that no one has ever seen before or anything. But when Jokic is in the middle of it, or Luka, or Lebron......it's kinda of difficult to defend, especially when they hitting some ridiculous shots/passes out of it, right?

You believe NBA players need help learning what to do against pick and rolls? Just based on some quick napkin math......they face roughly 10,000 pick and rolls a season.......I feel like pretty much every NBA player at least 2 years in knows what they need to do on such plays.

And I don't know how you can blame a coach for NBA guys missing layups. Sometimes the ball just doesn't go in. It's a make or miss league. Always has been.
 
He'll still be the best coach in the league, what are you insinuating?

He's jumped ahead of Pop and Kerr and Lue and Malone and all the other flavors of the month? :nerd:

My point is, you all are giddy and excited about these magical adjustments, but if/when Boston knocks them out next week, did he stop adjusting? No more magical potions from him? Or we just move on to the next narrative about how he's missing a key player, or Boston had homecourt etc etc?
 
The entire NBA is currently based on those pick and rolls. It's not a magical offense that no one has ever seen before or anything. But when Jokic is in the middle of it, or Luka, or Lebron......it's kinda of difficult to defend, especially when they hitting some ridiculous shots/passes out of it, right?

You believe NBA players need help learning what to do against pick and rolls? Just based on some quick napkin math......they face roughly 10,000 pick and rolls a season.......I feel like pretty much every NBA player at least 2 years in knows what they need to do on such plays.

And I don't know how you can blame a coach for NBA guys missing layups. Sometimes the ball just doesn't go in. It's a make or miss league. Always has been.

Very interesting you bring up that point because what got us the lead last night. Pretty much spamming high and side pick n rolls with AD and Bron. Yet middle of the 3rd just basically stop running it until the game was basically tied in the 4th. Why was that?

Also integrated simultaneously on the other sideline an adjustment defensively was made to put AG on AD cause Joker was getting eviscerated by that play. That's all coincidence and randomness by the players I guess as well huh?
 
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