NCAA Will Allow Trans Athletes: Lia Thomas Becomes 1st NCAA Transgender Champion

[cragmatic]

Also there was literally a lady on 60 minutes talking about letting her children choose their gender and not assigning a gender at birth, stop acting like these people don’t exist who encourage kids to do these things.

 

[Comparison Ford]

So you want minors to be able to transition? Define “minor”

And yeah , teenagers are confused about who they are quite often. But please tell me more about people know exactly who they are as teenagers.

I never said any of that, and based off of your past few posts (and overall posting history on other topics) I don’t think you’re worth wasting any more time on.

You’ve repeatedly demonstrated that you’re an unserious person.

 

[IATT]

Now, I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that the subject matter of this thread is about trans women competing against biological women in sports.

the subject of the thread is about a single person competing in a single meet

while I think that shouldnt have happened and swimmings governing body clearly also thought it shouldn’t have happened and changed the rules, some time ago now

other sports have also changed rules

that doesnt seem good enough for some and has spilled over into non sports related aspects of life

as a non white person, reading these stories seems extremely dangerous on a number of fronts

 

[cragmatic]

I never said any of that, and based off of your past few posts (and overall posting history on other topics) I don’t think you’re worth wasting any more time on.

You’ve repeatedly demonstrated that you’re an unserious person.

When you guys don’t have an argument that’s what you call people.

Kids shouldn’t be able to transition under 18 and people shouldn’t be encouraging them to. End of story.

I gave you an example of real life person who was on a real life interview show. So tell me how I’m an unserious person again? These people exist and are harming children by setting them up for a life of being discriminated against for being different. This is child abuse, but the media and agenda got people so caught up on being SJW that they think this stuff is okay.

 

[cragmatic]

A transgender psychologist who has helped 100’s of teens transition has warned that it has gone to far and “Fears they are making life changing decisions because it’s trendy and pushed on social media.”

They are called “influencers” for a reason. But nah, kids/teens aren’t easily influenced by the aren’t at all right?

https://nypost.com/2022/04/15/transitions-have-gone-too-far-trans-psychologist/amp/

 

[1995]

"the media"
"the agenda"
"SJW"

 

[cragmatic]

"the media"
"the agenda"
"SJW"

It’s true though

They got everybody arguing about this stuff so they can keep doing all their dirt and get away with it.

Funny how people made fun of people saying “fake news” in 2016, myself included, but it’s almost widely accepted, and it’s been a theme in “woke” rap (beofre the media ruined the word) long before Donald Trump was president .

 

[IATT]

id hope in 2023 people would be smart enough to know what entities are owned by Rupert murdoch and not use them to form opinions

 

[cragmatic]

Who remembers this episode of Atlanta?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hart-family-donald-glover-atlanta-b2046699.html

So please, discredit the abbreviation “SJW” again when there are people like this who exist (I know it’s not transitioning kids but still white people with disgusting motivations) adults use and abuse children for different motivations all the time, it’s insanely sad and even more sad to see people denying it. You can support LGBTQ and
Equal rights AND believe it’s wrong to influence/help children/teens to transition without being hateful.

 

[cragmatic]

id hope in 2023 people would be smart enough to know what entities are owned by Rupert murdoch and not use them to form opinions

So you believe the other entities aren’t pushing biases and misleading? We just witnessed what happened with CNN. Man the right and their absurdities really got people thinking everyone who isn’t a Republican has good intentions.

 

[IATT]

So you believe the other entities aren’t pushing biases and misleading? We just witnessed what happened with CNN. Man the right and their absurdities really got people think everyone who isn’t a Republican has good intentions.

I didn’t say what I believed

however, as I did say I’d hope people would be smart as it pertains to rupert murdoch owned media in 2023

last I checked, CNN isn’t part of his portfolio.. but they too obviously have their issues

 

[1995]

It’s true though

They got everybody arguing about this stuff so they can keep doing all their dirt and get away with it.

Funny how people made fun of people saying “fake news” in 2016, myself included, but it’s almost widely accepted, and it’s been a theme in “woke” rap (beofre the media ruined the word) long before Donald Trump was president .

Who is they and what is their endgame?

I just think the arbitrary age limit you're pitching is an emotional reaction that ignores all nuance and assumes that every situation is the same when it's not that simple

 

[IATT]

I only expect to hear “fake news” and/or “woke” from certain people in 2023

and it’s saying a whole lot about you

 

[cragmatic]

Who is they and what is their endgame?

I just think the arbitrary age limit you're pitching is an emotional reaction that ignores all nuance and assumes that every situation is the same when it's not that simple

To remain in power and horde all the wealth, that’s their end game, always has been.

Tell me how the left wants to raise the age limit to purchase fire arms but thinks minors should be able to medically transition , make it make sense

When it comes to 18 year olds joining the military, a lot of folks agree those recruiters take advantage of those kids. But we want to let these same young kids be influenced to change their identity, oh ok!

 

[IATT]

Only 1 party is currently banning books and outright changing what could be taught in schools to appease the feelings of certain people

also if “horde all the wealth“ is going be used towards any people, I wouldn’t start with the group that routinely gets called socialist




and given that historical books and subject matters are being banned from schools, it seems odd the “thoughts and prayers” are the only viable solutions from certain political groupings in their attempts to curtail the school shootings that take place every couple of days

 

[swendro]

Kids shouldn’t be able to transition under 18 and people shouldn’t be encouraging them to. End of story.

*whispers* This is also child abuse.

Forcing trans kids to live their childhood as cisgender is a terrible solution to your concerns about child abuse.

That’s just straight up transphobia.

 

[Comparison Ford]

They want to “horde all the wealth,” but he won’t tell us who “they” are.

Also acts like this is just a deliberate distraction that he’s smart enough to see right through while he actively engages in and propagates said “distraction” with seemingly zero self-awareness to the fact.

Like I said, unserious. I really regret the times that I tried to explain things to him in a polite and respectful fashion. He’s repeatedly demonstrated that he has no interest in learning or doing better. He just wants to be dumb and proud.

 

[cragmatic]

Who said anything about “forcing” a child to do anything?

What part of “teens are often confused about who they are” do you not understand? Forcing them to remain a gender is not the same as encouraging them to explore who they are more and understand themselves more is neither abusive nor dumb.

Never thought the idea of trying to encourage someone to spend more time exploring who they are and understanding who they are before making life altering decisions would be “dumb”

Keep downplaying the influence these tik tok videos of on many of these kids as well.

But I Guess I’m just dumb and proud.

 

[1995]

How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?

Lawmakers often cite concerns about young people regretting irreversible body-altering transgender medical treatment, but studies suggest regret is uncommon.

apnews.com

"In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret."

 

[RustyShackleford]

But I Guess I’m just dumb and proud.

Yes

 

[cragmatic]

Yes

Was waiting for you to pop up.

 

[cragmatic]

How common is transgender treatment regret, detransitioning?

Lawmakers often cite concerns about young people regretting irreversible body-altering transgender medical treatment, but studies suggest regret is uncommon.

apnews.com

"In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret."

That’s a relatively small sample size.

 

[1995]

That’s a relatively small sample size.

Didn't this whole discussion get jump started because you bought in to some fearmongering that was sourced from ONE of your coworkers?

Pretty clear that this is more about shielding yourself from discomfort than it is about helping young people

 

[RustyShackleford]

8000 is a rather large sample size

It is a review of multiple studies so there are some issues people would have to keep in mind about the sample, and what population it is being applied to.

But 8000 is big sample, especially given the population.

 

[heelsandeers]

Persuaded by some random person cited in the NYpost but a study spanning 1000s of individuals across multiple countries isn’t enough