OfficiaL '16 NYK offseason thread, Melo goes to bodega in bathrobe and Olympic hat

In the past few months, Who's been your favorite Melo? Multiple choice

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Hey y'all, I'm not a Knicks fan, but I'm aboard the Kristaps Porzingis hype train. I was one of the few who got disappointed that people were booing him during the draft yet he never got a chance. But now I'm surprised how the tables have turned. I honestly think he'll be the next European superstar after Dirk and Pau and think Knicks will continue to grow as a team from this point on. Wish you guys luck. I'm from the West Coast too BTW so I'm giving the Knicks and Kristaps some love and support from here.
 
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Hey man, I just hope he can be a 20 & 9 type of player we can build around and spend his career with the Knicks. I don't think he'll be a superstar but I would be elated if he becomes one. Thanks for the love nice to see someone other than "a crazy Knicks fan" seeing his potential.
 
I was pretty surprised his English was so well, you can sense the seriousness he has for playing in the NBA. He'll be a candidate for ROTY for sure. Surprised by his defense and his athleticism.

I was also surprised Knicks start Sasha Vujacic. If you guys can get a decent PG who can utilize the Pick and Roll with Kristaps, I see some great offensive plays.
 
If Fisher wasnt ejected he'd somehow have Lance Thomas, Sasha Vujacic, and Cleanthony Early in there during crunch time.

Who woulda thought that this rookie would be our best rebounder and defender :smh: :lol: :smokin
 
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Just got done eating at Clyde's Wine and Dine. Got a picture with Clyde. Food was awesome. Great game. Good times.
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Nice. I forgot about that place. Glad to hear it's good i haven't made it there.

Clyde is very approachable, met him twice. Seems like a good dude.
 
I'm about to be commandeering this hype train for Porzingis... this kid is going to be so ******* good, man.

He'll stretch the floor and how will you be able to block a 7'2" dude shooting 3s? He's been comfortable enough in the post where he can either pass or shoot over you, and he's been willing to put it on the floor. He's not going to be the most fluid and dominant guy driving to the hoop, but he'll be able to do it. He's been willing and impressive around the rim and crashing the boards, so he'll get points on offensive rebounds or get fouled. And his defense has been solid as well. He's go the size so even if he gets beat or is a step slow, his length and height will allow him to still block or contest the shot.

I can't wait to see him develop... he'll be a very unique talent.
 
I hate to nitpick even more about these lineups..  because overall we had a pretty good offseason. But we are one of the most non progressive teams out there. we're basically starting 2 PFs and a center. Lopez has done a good job anchoring the D, but he is out of place on offense and only slows the pace. Melo's preferred defensive position is the 4, and KP can't defend 3s, so we need to place him at the 5. This summer, I was begging for a versatile defensive forward (Aminu, Josh Smith, Ndour) to mask some of the deficiencies the thin front court would create

Fisher needs to get better with the Xs and Os and employ lineups that maximize production.
 
No reservation just went after the game on a whim. Place is pretty big so you should be ok walking in. Average dish costs like $17 I think.
 
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No reservation just went after the game on a whim. Place is pretty big so you should be ok walking in. Average dish costs like $17 I think.
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cool. thnks. been wanting to catch a game there.


lmao at that gif. I saw that during the game yesterday and immediately thought about this thread.knew someone would bring it up. Very encouraging to see that.

I like Melo and I think our success is ultimately on him, but I won't ignore when he's being a bit ch.
 
New York Knicks' surprise: Kristaps Porzingis might be rookie of the year
40m - NBA, Kristaps Porzingis +1 more
Chad Ford and Kevin Pelton


For the past several years, ESPN Insider's Chad Ford and Kevin Pelton have provided the kind of discussions that are happening in front offices around the NBA -- where scouts and statistical experts are breaking down NBA prospects using their "eyes, ears and numbers." This season those conversations are extending beyond the NBA draft to include prospects in their rookie or sophomore seasons.

Surprising production

Kevin Pelton: Chad, there's an unexpected leader in my wins above replacement player (WARP) rankings among rookies: New York Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis, the No. 4 overall pick.

Per 36 minutes of action, through seven games, Porzingis is averaging 18.2 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.9 steals and 1.9 blocks.

The other KP has climbed just ahead of top pick Karl-Anthony Towns, whose own strong start we discussed last week.

Are you surprised how quickly he's been able to translate his tools into NBA production?

Chad Ford: Yes and no. I had Porzingis ranked No. 2 on my Grade A Mock Draft and felt the Los Angeles Lakers should take him. That view was supported by those who had scouted him heavily. But Porzingis, playing in Europe, just wasn't scouted as intensely by NBA decision makers.

Still, I am surprised at how quickly he has developed and adjusted to the NBA. Porzingis clearly is already playing with a confidence level that surpasses that of most other rookies.

Maybe that shouldn't surprise us. He was playing significant minutes in the Spanish ACB league -- the best pro league outside the NBA. Porzingis was playing against men. Against pros. Maybe we should've seen this quick transition coming.

Pelton: In large part because of the quality of ACB competition, my projections did suggest Porzingis was more ready than most observers believed. He ranked fifth in my rankings of rookie performance.

Where Porzingis is succeeding

Pelton: Despite those projections, I've still been surprised by a few things we've seen from Porzingis so far. I figured he would struggle to defend quicker forwards on the perimeter. Though that's been an issue at times, Porzingis' length has allowed him to make plays even when beaten initially.

Also, nothing in Porzingis' ACB stat line suggested he'd be such a Vine-worthy force on the offensive glass with put-backs. He ranks seventh in offensive rebound percentage among players with at least 100 minutes.

What have you seen watching Porzingis?

Ford: The same. Defense and rebounding were the things I thought he'd struggle with out of the gate. Porzingis is well ahead of the curve early on.

Ironically, where I thought he'd excel early -- shooting -- he's struggled. Porzingis is shooting just 23 percent from 3 so far. Given his soft shooting touch, I expect that will improve dramatically down the road. That makes me even more bullish about his future.

Areas for improvement

Pelton: The main shortcoming scouts tend to mention with Porzingis is his lack of strength. I think that's manifested itself most notably in terms of foul trouble. Porzingis is averaging 6.2 fouls per 36 minutes, which will make it difficult to ramp up his minutes too far from the 24.0 he's averaging thus far.

Where else do you see Porzingis improving?

Ford: He's using his length and quickness right now to defend, but as he gets stronger he'll cut down on all the reaching fouls.

And as noted, I think we will see his shooting improve dramatically. He has one of the purest strokes I've seen in a big man.

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Rookie of the Year?

Pelton: Last week we all but awarded Rookie of the Year to Towns. Do you think Porzingis can make a run at the award based on what he's shown so far?

Ford: I do. We are two weeks into the season, and the advanced analytics point his direction early. He has the New York hype machine behind him. And he's really fun to watch.

I think Towns is better right now. And I think Towns is the best prospect in this rookie class. But Porzingis isn't that far behind now. And I don't think he'll be that far behind in five years either.

Porzingis in 2020

Pelton: All right, let's wrap up by discussing Porzingis' long-term future. Where do you see him five years from now? And how should the Knicks build around him to help maximize his potential?

Ford: On pure talent, he's got a shot at being a top-10 player in the league. He has a little further to go to maximize it than Towns does, but the potential is there. And yes, absolutely New York needs to build around him.

The Knicks won't have their draft pick in 2016 (thanks to the Carmelo Anthony and Andrea Bargnani trades), so that's not going to help. They'll have some salary cap room next year, but not max-type room.

So despite a decent 3-4 start by the Knicks, it might make sense for them to move even more boldly into planning for their long-term future. That could mean trading Anthony for future talent, preparing to grab one of the great crop of high schoolers coming into the 2017 draft and then using roughly $50 million in cap room to fill out their roster.

If Porzingis keeps getting better, Madison Square Garden will be a free agent destination again.

Pelton: I'm fascinated to see how Porzingis develops. We've heard a lot of Dirk Nowitzki comparisons, which are inevitable for any tall European player who can shoot.

Those projections are not altogether inaccurate: My SCHOENE projection system has Nowitzki as the third-best comparison for Porzingis at the same age. However, Porzingis has far more defensive potential than Dirk demonstrated.

So I think ultimately as he adds strength, he'll become a stretch-5 -- and possibly a new archetype all his own.
 
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