Official: Manny Pacquiao Thread

BaldGrill said:
Like I said, let me know where yall are making the returns on all this junk so I can make the phone order clearance scoop.

I need some new car wash rags. :lol:
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Huge Manny fan. This doesn't change anything. Very frustrating fight however as he never adjusted to Mayweather's style. Mayweather's is the biggest chicken in the ring I've ever seen but I tip my hat to him for having a plan on how to neutralize Pacquiao. With that said, I don't think Floyd could pass up another handsome paycheck. #rematch
 
EasyCo said:
I wanted Pac to win, but there's no denying MoneyMay. He's a specialist.

You guys can call it running, which he did less than other fights to be honest. He let down his guard, stuck his neck out and was showing Manny all the real estate he could hit. Manny couldn't, didn't, whatever it may be.

To be honest, this didn't look like the REAL manny we've seen come out against other boxers.

Was it Manny or did Floyd take him out of his game plan?
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I'm stuck debating the same thing in my head. This was by far, the worst showing Manny has ever had. He fought like a man who was scared of getting hurt. I've never seen him so timid. Was he hit with something that hurt? He says he wasn't, but then why did he keep his distance and not throw anywhere close to the level he usually does. Was it Manny, or did Floyd just completely neutralize him? I didn't see anything special from Floyd that should've caused such caution on Manny's part. I just don't get it.

This fight was demoralizing as a long time Pacquiao fan. Not just because he lost as badly as he did, but because of how he handled it. He handled it like a baby frankly. Injury or not, there's no excuse for the apparent total lack of strategy and preparedness that Pacquiao brought to this fight. He didn't fight even anywhere close to warranting a rematch. Very sad to watch a great man and fighter go down this way.
 
Mahler12x said:
 
I'm stuck debating the same thing in my head. This was by far, the worst showing Manny has ever had. He fought like a man who was scared of getting hurt. I've never seen him so timid. Was he hit with something that hurt? He says he wasn't, but then why did he keep his distance and not throw anywhere close to the level he usually does. Was it Manny, or did Floyd just completely neutralize him? I didn't see anything special from Floyd that should've caused such caution on Manny's part. I just don't get it.

This fight was demoralizing as a long time Pacquiao fan. Not just because he lost as badly as he did, but because of how he handled it. He handled it like a baby frankly. Injury or not, there's no excuse for the apparent total lack of strategy and preparedness that Pacquiao brought to this fight. He didn't fight even anywhere close to warranting a rematch. Very sad to watch a great man and fighter go down this way.
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Counter-punchers always give Pacman problems (Marquez, Floyd).  Whereas past opponent fighters that came forward like Cotto, Margarito, Rios were easier to hit.  I suspect that Pacman still has the Marquez defeat/KO in his mind.  As good a counter-puncher as Marquez is, Mayweather is even better.  I don't believe Mayweather hurt Pacman, but mentally Pacman knew Mayweather is better than Marquez and couldn't afford even a tiny mistake against him.  If Pacman throws a ton of punches in this fight it just gives a master counter-puncher like Mayweather a ton of chances to get a flash knockdown or KO.  Mayweather's punching power is under-rated and his KO percentage is low because he simply doesn't take chances to go for the all out KO.  I'm not sure what his plans are (maybe a move down to 140) but Pacman is still a heck of a fighter.
 
IG88 said:
 
Counter-punchers always give Pacman problems (Marquez, Floyd).  Whereas past opponent fighters that came forward like Cotto, Margarito, Rios were easier to hit.  I suspect that Pacman still has the Marquez defeat/KO in his mind.  As good a counter-puncher as Marquez is, Mayweather is even better.  I don't believe Mayweather hurt Pacman, but mentally Pacman knew Mayweather is better than Marquez and couldn't afford even a tiny mistake against him.  If Pacman throws a ton of punches in this fight it just gives a master counter-puncher like Mayweather a ton of chances to get a flash knockdown or KO.  Mayweather's punching power is under-rated and his KO percentage is low because he simply doesn't take chances to go for the all out KO.  I'm not sure what his plans are (maybe a move down to 140) but Pacman is still a heck of a fighter.
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I agree Manny still has another good fight in him. I don't know who yet, but he needs to go out for his last fight, fighting a guy who likes to trade. Maybe Matthysse, Crawford, or even Provodnikov. For me, Floyd just exploits the game, masterfully for sure, but exposes boxing as a sport in need of some reform. When you can win time and again without having to engage in actual fighting, there needs to be some change. Duck, dodge, clinch, run and potshot will not win more fans to the game in the age of UFC and MMA. This fight did more harm than good for the sport in my opinion. Though I concede Floyd may be a fluke or anomaly in the grander scheme of boxing, I have no interest in watching another match of his.

In the end, however, that's no excuse for Manny. He came in as a fighter that looked utterly unprepared to even offer a challenge to Mayweather's game. Even Kellerman had to remind Pacquiao that he should've expected Mayweather to be "running around." The question was, what was Manny going to do differently than others had done before. The answer apparently was, nothing. 
 
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Mahler12x said:
I'm stuck debating the same thing in my head. This was by far, the worst showing Manny has ever had. He fought like a man who was scared of getting hurt. I've never seen him so timid. Was he hit with something that hurt? He says he wasn't, but then why did he keep his distance and not throw anywhere close to the level he usually does. Was it Manny, or did Floyd just completely neutralize him? I didn't see anything special from Floyd that should've caused such caution on Manny's part. I just don't get it.

This fight was demoralizing as a long time Pacquiao fan. Not just because he lost as badly as he did, but because of how he handled it. He handled it like a baby frankly. Injury or not, there's no excuse for the apparent total lack of strategy and preparedness that Pacquiao brought to this fight. He didn't fight even anywhere close to warranting a rematch. Very sad to watch a great man and fighter go down this way.
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It was classic Mayweather that showed up, no doubt about it. Floyd came in with the same game plan as the 47 previous times convinced that he has the master plan for himself, indeed he does. With the reach advantage he kept manny at bay, when manny came in floyd locked him up, and when manny tried to go on a fury Floyd would catch him and stop him momentarily.

It was definitely up to Manny to win by ko if not unanimously. Floyd took to him to school. Controlled the fight. With all the smack Freddie roach was talking I really thought manny was gonna come out guns blazing, I gotta say I am very impressed at how calm Floyd was thought out the entire fight. He knew he was winning most every round.

In regards to the running, I thought he did less running in this fight than any other. In the later rounds he started showing Manny his face and sticking his neck out there, floyds footwork would get him out of it. Manny is fast, but Mayweather was faster, I couldn't believe how much faster Floyd connects. I thought manny was incredibly fast but finally seeing these two at the same time put floyds speed in perspective. Floyds fights are very technical. He's a boxer not a brawler. We all love the toe to toe type of fighters but we all forget that the other half of boxing is to avoid getting hit and frustrating your opponent by being defensive and elusive.

Folks that don't appreciate floyds style of boxing love to hate him, but also tune into his next fight to watch the next big hype knock him out and finally shut him up. 48-0.
 
anyone run into filipinos not cheering for pacman? but cheering for mayweather? :smh: some of these guys were blasphemous
 
619destroyer said:
Floyd should sign-up for the local MARATHON since RUNNING is what he does best,,and im pretty sure he'll win it too
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This is the non-boxing fans view. Two parts to boxing, offense and defense. Defense doesn't mean you stand there and block your face/body with gloves/arms while the other guy lets them fly. Footwork, moving, using the ENTIRE ring to avoid getting punched


If all they wanted were for boxers to go toe to toe then they would make a ring that was 4'x4' and fights would be way shorter.

Manny had no game plan on how to stop him from "running" Manny looked horrible against May. Plain and simple. Take the L
 
No mention of Pac's shoulder injury here? It explains how his punching volume was cut in half. Even if you use it as an excuse, Pac's footwork couldn't match Floyd's. Wish this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago though.
 
201steez said:
No mention of Pac's shoulder injury here? It explains how his punching volume was cut in half. Even if you use it as an excuse, Pac's footwork couldn't match Floyd's. Wish this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago though.
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It's because of dude revealed the injury. It was real suspect at best.
 
201steez said:
No mention of Pac's shoulder injury here? It explains how his punching volume was cut in half. Even if you use it as an excuse, Pac's footwork couldn't match Floyd's. Wish this fight happened 5 or 6 years ago though.
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Everyone has injuries, part of any sport. If the tables were turned...

When did he just injure his shoulder?
How?

I mean, we saw him sparring, hitting the heavy bag, speed bag up until a week before the fight. None of that seemed apparent. Now I know that if the injury is revealed before hand then maybe the opponent could have an advantage, or would he? I mean it's all mind games before the fight so no one ever really knows the true conditioning if the other fighter. Also, manny has fought many rounds injured and still capitalized and won fights.

Why not against Floyd?
 
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That's an excuse! A healthy shoulder still wouldn't have helped you hit Floyd. Everyone has injuries at that level.No excuses take the L like a man.Pac was noticeably slower and smaller than Floyd also.He was scared to let his hands go or else it would've got ugly for him, so instead took it to decision praying and hoping for a controversial decision.
 
After all said and done, I still want a pair of Nike MP shorts. If only Nike would release some more.
 
619destroyer said:
NAH,,i doubt it,,im pretty sure Nike will take care of him
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If nike didn't care to put out a ton of gear for "the fight of the century" then I would say they're pretty much done with Manny. He'll live out the rest of his contract and then it's a wrap. They'll release whatever else is already produced and I would guess it'll hit outlets. After this loss Manny's career is over.
 
I actually thought Nike was done with him after he got KO'd....

I'm glad they released some shirts though.

When will the next time be when Nike endorses a filipino guy?

Oh, and the XXL shirts i got were too snug, anybody want them for retail? it's the MP with team pacquiao on the back.... PM ME
 
Yeah it's a pity about the fight, been having a home laugh at all the memes on fb, Awesome to see so many fans cheering for Manny, I think this shoulder will put him out way longer to be ready for September, so this maybe it, I hope that's not the last we hear from him tho I want him to be president of the Philippines
 
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