OFFICIAL MEXICO FUTBOL THREAD: Mexico MNT : VS USA in San Antonio 4/15

i would hope so
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Originally Posted by Fuser86

This team got at least 5 players who shouldn't be there

Conejo, Aguilar, Bofo, Benado, Qua

Jesus Corona should be there over Conejo and to think at the prospect of Conejo starting the opener is just obsurd to me.

That goal by Glen Johnson was nice but get an avg size keeper and it's not going in.

I was shocked this morning when I heard the news about Jonathan though. NO way in hell did I think Bofo would make this squad. Especially after the treatment he got when the seleccion se despidio del Azteca. Bofo isn't in form, those two goals against Gambia, I would have scored 4.
Chuy should have been there. The rules of the national team aren't applied to everyone in the same way. Yes Chuy hit someone, no jail time or anything worse came of it. So they should have called him up. Cuauhtemoc out drinking and smoking days before the Gambia match.. and he ends up playing
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Zizinho needs to watch what he says.. Articles aren't going to post word for word what he said. I listened to the phone conversation and he goes on to say Mexico (he said NOT the people) is garbage and Aguirre + Carillo = "Mierda".
 
PersiaFly wrote:
Can someone post Mexico's likely starting XI in formation mode?

Thanks in advance.
Your guess is as good as ours at this point. Chances are we won't know until 6/11.
Numbers are out:
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PLANTILLA DEL TRI PARA EL MUNDIAL
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NUM
[/td][td]
JUGADOR
[/td][td]
POSICIÓN
[/td][td]
ÚLTIMO EQUIPO
[/td][/tr][tr][td]
1
[/td][td]Óscar Pérez[/td][td]
Portero
[/td][td]Jaguares, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
2
[/td][td]Francisco Javier Rodríguez[/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]PSV Eindhoven, Holanda [/td][/tr][tr][td]
3
[/td][td]Carlos Salcido[/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]PSV Eindhoven, Holanda [/td][/tr][tr][td]
4
[/td][td]Rafael Márquez[/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]Barcelona, España [/td][/tr][tr][td]
5
[/td][td]Ricardo Osorio[/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]VfB Stuttgart, Alemania [/td][/tr][tr][td]
6
[/td][td]Gerardo Torrado[/td][td]
Medio
[/td][td]Cruz Azul, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
7
[/td][td]Pablo Barrera[/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Pumas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
8
[/td][td]Israel Castro[/td][td]
Medio
[/td][td]Pumas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
9
[/td][td]Guillermo Franco [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]West Ham Utd. Inglaterra [/td][/tr][tr][td]
10
[/td][td]Cuauhtémoc Blanco[/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Veracruz, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
11
[/td][td]Carlos Vela [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Arsenal, Inglaterra [/td][/tr][tr][td]
12
[/td][td]Paul Aguilar [/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]Pachuca, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
13
[/td][td]Guillermo Ochoa [/td][td]
Portero
[/td][td]América, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
14
[/td][td]Javier Hernández [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Manchester Utd., Inglaterra [/td][/tr][tr][td]
15
[/td][td]Héctor Moreno [/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]AZ Alkmaar, Holanda [/td][/tr][tr][td]
16
[/td][td]Efraín Juárez [/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]Pumas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
17
[/td][td]http://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingP...c=click&pli=1085043&PluID=0&ord=1275438883986Giovani dos Santos [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Galatasaray, Turquía [/td][/tr][tr][td]
18
[/td][td]Andrés Guardado [/td][td]
Medio
[/td][td]Deportivo la Coruña, España [/td][/tr][tr][td]
19
[/td][td]Jonny Magallón [/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]Chivas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
20
[/td][td]Jorge Torres Nilo [/td][td]
Defensa
[/td][td]Atlas, México[/td][/tr][tr][td]
21
[/td][td]Adolfo Bautista [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Chivas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
22
[/td][td]Alberto Medina [/td][td]
Delantero
[/td][td]Chivas, México [/td][/tr][tr][td]
23
[/td][td]Luis Michel [/td][td]
Portero
[/td][td]Chivas, México [/td][/tr][/table]
 
Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Can someone post Mexico's likely starting XI in formation mode?

Thanks in advance.
Honestly, even now I dont know what formation he will use. It can be any of the following 4: 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-1-3-2, 4-1-2-3.
 
Leaving Sinha and Braulio Luna out and giving Bofo a chance was something out if this world, how come that bum is there... He didn't even make it in his second chance in Chivas...

I really don't like how Aguirre handle it, the whole process, he doesnt have a clear starting lineup, he messed up with the whole 'Temo thing, then he handle the whole Jonathan situation really really bad and now he's going to put Guille Franco with his bad ankle before Chicharo... just see... (and don't get me started with Conejo)...
 
Originally Posted by Do Be Doo


MEXICO

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A huevo
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@ Jonathan quiting the National team, we didn't need him anyway.

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What Memo isn't #1?
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Taking Bofo
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Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Can someone post Mexico's likely starting XI in formation mode?

Thanks in advance.
                    Ochoa/Michel
Osorio------Maza------Marquez------Salcido

Juarez------------Torrado------------Guardado

Dos Santos---------------------------------Vela

---------------------Franco------------------------

That's my prediction. Aguirre likes to play a 4-3-3 although it's more like a 4-3-2-1. One thing im not 100% sure of where he'll play Marquez. I think the whole reason why Jonathan didn't make the squad is because he liked Marquez in the middle along with Juarez. If he plays with Marquez in the middle I don't know how he's going to play since he's not going to play Juarez/Marquez with Torrado AND Guardado. 
 
Originally Posted by Aztec

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Can someone post Mexico's likely starting XI in formation mode?

Thanks in advance.
Honestly, even now I dont know what formation he will use. It can be any of the following 4: 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-1-3-2, 4-1-2-3.
The ones I bolded out are not the way we'll play for sure. We'll either use a 4-3-3 which like I said is more like a 4-3-2-1 leaving one striker up top, or a 3-4-3(3-4-2-1). What I have noticed is that when we are on offense we play a 3-4-2-1, Rafa moves up and plays in the middle. When not in possession of the ball, Rafa drops and we switch over to a 4-3-2-1.

If he wants to play offensively We will see this..


                     Ochoa/Michel
Osorio-------------Maza---------------Salcido

Juarez-----Torrado------Marquez----Guardado

Dos Santos---------------------------------Vela

---------------------Franco------------------------
 
i dont think aguirre can be anymore clear that hes starting conejo
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, anyways, from what ive seen, this is or its close to the starting 11....

---------------------conejo-----------------------
paul aguilar-------masa-----osorio---------salcido
-------------------marquez------------------------
-----------juarez-----------torrado----------------
---dos santos-----------------------------vela-----
---------------franco (if he can play)---------------


thats right, i doubt aguirre will start guardado, which is another completely stupid move!, i honestly hope im wrong, my ideal starting line up would be...

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
masa---------marquez------osorio---------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------

im still at loss for words, lets just hope for the best, and that aguirre doesn't commit anymore stupidities, we all have to wait until thursday, since aguirre said hes gonna "rehearse" the starting line up against italy
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Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by PersiaFly

Can someone post Mexico's likely starting XI in formation mode?

Thanks in advance.
                    Ochoa/Michel
Osorio------Maza------Marquez------Salcido

Juarez------------Torrado------------Guardado

Dos Santos---------------------------------Vela

---------------------Franco------------------------

That's my prediction. Aguirre likes to play a 4-3-3 although it's more like a 4-3-2-1. One thing im not 100% sure of where he'll play Marquez. I think the whole reason why Jonathan didn't make the squad is because he liked Marquez in the middle along with Juarez. If he plays with Marquez in the middle I don't know how he's going to play since he's not going to play Juarez/Marquez with Torrado AND Guardado. 
thats exacly why jona left, if marquez was playing defense like he normally does, then Torres Nilo or Magallon would have left, anyways since hes playing marquez in the middle with juarez AND torrado, guardado is not starting 
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se my above post...
 
I hope that sooner or later they Fire Aguirre!

He doesn't know what he is doing, Putting bofo over Jona. Conejo over (José Jesús Corona O Moises Muñoz).
 
How does Santos play for Mexico when he's Brazilian?
I dont know anything about soccer, I just noticed he didnt look Mexican and saw that he is Brazilian.
 
Gio was born in Mexico. His mother Liliana Ramirez is Mexican. Gio's full name: Giovani dos Santos Ramírez
 
Originally Posted by ballin 2k3

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
masa---------marquez------osorio---------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------
I don see Maza playing RB. Dude has developed real well as a CB. He has the height and from what I have seen real good timing on his slides at the ball.  So for me:

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
osorio-------marquez------maza----------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------

With juarez being replaced with israel castro if they want to slow down the pace a bit. That is where Zinha should have been though. In my view he has better ball control, good depth passing can defend well too.
 
Originally Posted by Aztec

Originally Posted by ballin 2k3

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
masa---------marquez------osorio---------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------
I don see Maza playing RB. Dude has developed real well as a CB. He has the height and from what I have seen real good timing on his slides at the ball.  So for me:

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
osorio-------marquez------maza----------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------

With juarez being replaced with israel castro if they want to slow down the pace a bit. That is where Zinha should have been though. In my view he has better ball control, good depth passing can defend well too.


Maza would never be put at RB. As far as Aguilar goes, he's not going to start. After more thinking this is my final prediction for our starting 11 in the WC.

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
osorio---------------maza------------------salcido
juarez-------marquez-------torrado-------guardado
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
---------------------franco------------------------

We are going to play 3-4-2-1 in order to play marquez AND guardado at the same time.
 
Originally Posted by frijo sneaker

I hope that sooner or later they Fire Aguirre!

He doesn't know what he is doing, Putting bofo over Jona. Conejo over (José Jesús Corona O Moises Muñoz).

You don't have to worry about that, he's made it very clear that he's quitting right after the WC and returning to spain.
 
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by Aztec

Originally Posted by ballin 2k3

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
masa---------marquez------osorio---------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------
I don see Maza playing RB. Dude has developed real well as a CB. He has the height and from what I have seen real good timing on his slides at the ball.  So for me:

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
osorio-------marquez------maza----------salcido
--------------------torrado-----------------------
-----------juarez--------------guardado-----------
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
--------------------chicharo-----------------------

With juarez being replaced with israel castro if they want to slow down the pace a bit. That is where Zinha should have been though. In my view he has better ball control, good depth passing can defend well too.


Maza would never be put at RB. As far as Aguilar goes, he's not going to start. After more thinking this is my final prediction for our starting 11 in the WC.

---------------------ochoa-----------------------
osorio---------------maza------------------salcido
juarez-------marquez-------torrado-------guardado
---dos santos-------------------------vela---------
---------------------franco------------------------

We are going to play 3-4-2-1 in order to play marquez AND guardado at the same time.

LOL, yeah i didnt notice my mistake, switch maza and osorio on my line up, and thats how i would like it to be....
 
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[h1]World Cup 2010: I Will Not Play My Mexico Stars Against Italy In Friendly - Javier Aguirre[/h1] [h2]Aguirre will play a weak team against Italians...[/h2]

Mexico coach Javier Aguirre is not prepared to gamble with the state of his stars and will play a weakened team against Italy in tonight's friendly clash in Brussels.

Thetwo sides go head to head in a pre-World Cup warm-up match, and Aguirreis keen to keep his first XI fresh for the finals when they kick offnext week.

"I will not play my luxury XI players when we clash with Italy," the coach told Mexican press, as reported by La Repubblica.

Aguirre is trying to keep his team to play in South Africa secret as he throws everyone off the scent.

"Maybe my goalkeeper will be first choice in South Africa, but even that is not sure," he concluded.


 
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