Official Production Numbers - Top 23 AJ XX3 White/Titanium-University Blue

^ Great advice.

I say if you don't TRULY LOVE these shoes, DON'T buy them just to flip for a little profit.

Let those who truly love them buy them.

I don't like them, so I will be passing, EVEN if they are available near me.
 
^^ Thats exactly wat I was thinking, just take a L and get over it cuz these aren't even the best looking XX3, both of the GR pairs that we have seen sofar are much better than these anyway

Edit: Does anyone know if the White/Red/Black pair will be more limited than the Black/Red pair? I ask because on alot of websitestheir release dates have the White/Red/Black pair as a limited release. Will they be like a Limited GR?

I would appreciate the help
 
I want these so bad, but I guess I'll take the L. JB doesn't really care about consumers size 14 and up. 500 pairs in the US. If they go from size7.5-18 and they distribute the number of pairs per size (which they won't) it would be less than 50 pairs a size. Divide that by 23 stores. That's nearimpossible to get a pair.
 
i think they are hot, the only 23 i dont like is the black and gold version. But like 230 is so much for the espically if you dont have a job. its so annoyingbecause they can make you pay whatever they want.
 
FlightClub23 wrote:
^^ Thats exactly wat I was thinking, just take a L and get over it cuz these aren't even the best looking XX3, both of the GR pairs that we have seen so far are much better than these anyway

Edit: Does anyone know if the White/Red/Black pair will be more limited than the Black/Red pair? I ask because on alot of websites their release dates have the White/Red/Black pair as a limited release. Will they be like a Limited GR?

I would appreciate the help
Yes, the white/black-red pair is "supposedly" a limited release.
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Damn this thread got heated real quick. Before I go into what I am about to post, let it be known that what I am about to type may not be the case in thissituation, but, this comes from years of experience. Years of experience that I KNOW both Steez and JM have. So here we go...
Originally Posted by Steez


Official Marketing for these will be 23 pairs for 23 stores. Either you're lying or he is. You're contradicting information that comes straight from the manufacturer. Try again.
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Many times, "Official Marketing" means NOTHING in real application. Marketing is completely different from retail. As both Steez and JM know,Production/Sales/Distribution/Marketing/R&D/Design/etc. operate almost virtually autonomously. Now of course there is plenty inter-departmentalcommunication to attempt to ensure that all of the aforementioned pieces of the chain operate in cohesion, but often times "Marketing" and"Reality" do not exactly mirror each other. This is no fault of marketing nor distro/retail/etc. We are talking about extremely large companies here,imagine how difficult it can be to make sure that each piece of the chain knows and operates EXACTLY according to "plan". Marketing is often one ofthe last pieces of the chain and the dept. is often given information long after many of the initial processes (R&D/Design/Production/Sales) are alreadydone. Sales' job is to SELL sneakers to retail, Marketing's job is to "SELL" that product to the consumer. In many instances (not justsneakers), a salesperson would have no clue how the product they are selling is supposed to be/going to be marketed to the consumer, it is not their job toknow. The same thing goes for marketing, many times they have no clue as to how retail is operating, i.e., not knowing how much a product will sell for/whereit will be sold/etc., it is not their job to know that. Not everyone who works at a sneaker brand is a sneakerhead and they don't know, or have to, knowthe ins and outs of their product from A to/through B like people on this board or any devout "sneakerhead".

Now this is true with many things, not just sneakers (and I am not pointing a finger at sneaker brands here either). I am sure many of you on this board canthink of a time where any product or service was marketed in a certain way that did not actually prove to be real. Whether the product did not perform asmarketed, did not appear where it was marketed to appear, etc. Again this is not the direct fault of any piece of the chain, in many companies there is a largedisconnect between departments. Again, I am not saying that this is true of Jordan Brand in any way, but I am saying this so that people can THINK about theentire situation.

Now onto the case of the guy whose Uncle's shop is getting 10 pairs. Again this might not be the case in this instance, but I have had several experienceslike this.

Think for a second, that this "Uncle's Shop" is actually NOT ONE OF THE TOP 23 ACCOUNTS AT ALL. He might be a reputable and longstanding JBclient that is due a "favor".

Here is a situation that I have experienced in the past.

"Bubba's Banging Sneakers" (doesn't exist, at least I don't think), a reputable and longstanding JB client on the Southside of Chicago,is "promised" the Laser XV. Release date comes and Bubba is Laser XV-less.

Bubba calls his sales rep and says, "What happened to my kix?"

JB sales rep says, "I am sorry, I have no clue what happened, you were supposed to get them."

Bubba says, "you really messed me up on this one."

JB sales rep says, "Let me make it up to you, I will get you 10 PAIRS OF THE LIMITED AIR JORDAN XX3 dropping in January."

Bubba says, "hot diggity dog I am going to bash dudes over the head on this one! Good looking!"

Again, this may not be the case in this instance, but, things like this happen, a lot, I have experienced it myself (I do not own a store but a know a"couple" people that do).

All in all, a lot of things go on outside of Marketing's control and outside of Sales/Distribution's control. To assume that Marketing, or any otherdepartment, is the 100% final end all be all word in anything, is flawed.

Again, I AM SURE that the Top 23 Jordan Brand accounts were allowed to order/promised 23 pairs of the "Titanium Blues" and I am sure that JordanBrand Marketing will market the sneaker that way, BUT, there are a BILLION things that can upset this situation. I have held several Marketing positions, and Ihave been on the bad side of a Marketing Plan gone wrong due to circumstances out of my/my team's control.

Take all of this for what it is worth.

Again, no disrespect intended to Steez or JM. This is my two cents.

Thank you for reading this. I have finally made good on the thousands of dollars spent to obtain my Marketing degree (Word to Kanye).

MaZe
 
does anyone know what locations in philadelphia will be getting these. These are the most sophisticated and understated of the XXIII's. Would love to get apair. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Originally Posted by blco02

^ Great advice.

I say if you don't TRULY LOVE these shoes, DON'T buy them just to flip for a little profit.

Let those who truly love them buy them.

I don't like them, so I will be passing, EVEN if they are available near me.
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if only everyone thought like this, no one would ever have problems obtaining some sneakers. But the hunger fir that extra bit of money is just to much.
 
top 23 jb retailers probably arent in the worst places in the world...im guessin people should b pretty safe... first carolina jordan ive liked in awhile...illcop later this year when i get rich...
 
Originally Posted by MaZeDOwNeR

Damn this thread got heated real quick. Before I go into what I am about to post, let it be known that what I am about to type may not be the case in this situation, but, this comes from years of experience. Years of experience that I KNOW both Steez and JM have. So here we go...
Originally Posted by Steez


Official Marketing for these will be 23 pairs for 23 stores. Either you're lying or he is. You're contradicting information that comes straight from the manufacturer. Try again.
Click to expand...

Many times, "Official Marketing" means NOTHING in real application. Marketing is completely different from retail. As both Steez and JM know, Production/Sales/Distribution/Marketing/R&D/Design/etc. operate almost virtually autonomously. Now of course there is plenty inter-departmental communication to attempt to ensure that all of the aforementioned pieces of the chain operate in cohesion, but often times "Marketing" and "Reality" do not exactly mirror each other. This is no fault of marketing nor distro/retail/etc. We are talking about extremely large companies here, imagine how difficult it can be to make sure that each piece of the chain knows and operates EXACTLY according to "plan". Marketing is often one of the last pieces of the chain and the dept. is often given information long after many of the initial processes (R&D/Design/Production/Sales) are already done. Sales' job is to SELL sneakers to retail, Marketing's job is to "SELL" that product to the consumer. In many instances (not just sneakers), a salesperson would have no clue how the product their selling is supposed to be/going to be marketed to the consumer, it is not their job to know. The same thing goes for marketing, many times they have no clue as to how retail is operating, i.e. not knowing how much a product will sell for/where it will be sold/etc., it is not their job to know that. Not everyone who works at a sneaker brand is a sneakerhead and they don't know, or have to, know the ins and outs of their product from A to/through B like people on this board or any devout "sneakerhead".

Now this is true with many things, not just sneakers (and I am not pointing a finger at sneaker brands here either). I am sure many of you on this board can think of a time where any product or service was marketed in a certain way that did not actually prove to be real. Whether the product did not perform as marketed, did not appear where it was marketed to appear, etc. Again this is not the direct fault of any piece of the chain, in many companies there is a large disconnect between departments. Again, I am not saying that this is true of Jordan Brand in any way, but I am saying this so that people can THINK about the entire situation.

Now onto the case of the guy whose Uncle's shop is getting 10 pairs. Again this might not be the case in this instance, but I have had several experiences like this.

Think for a second, that this "Uncle's Shop" is actually NOT ONE OF THE TOP 23 ACCOUNTS AT ALL. He might be a reputable and longstanding JB client that is due a "favor".

Here is a situation that I have experienced in the past.

"Bubba's Banging Sneakers" (doesn't exist, at least I don't think), a reputable and longstanding JB client on the Southside of Chicago, is "promised" the Laser XV. Release date comes and Bubba is Laser XV-less.

Bubba calls his sales rep and says, "What happened to my kix?"

JB sales rep says, "I am sorry, I have no clue what happened, you were supposed to get them."

Bubba says, "you really messed me up on this one."

JB sales rep says, "Let me make it up to you, I will get you 10 PAIRS OF THE LIMITED AIR JORDAN XX3 dropping in January."

Bubba says, "hot diggity dog I am going to bash dudes over the head on this one! Good looking!"

Again, this may not be the case in this instance, but, things like this happen, a lot, I have experienced it myself (I do not own a store but a know a "couple" people that do).

All in all, a lot of things go on outside of Marketing's control and outside of Sales/Distribution's control. To assume that Marketing, or any other department, is the 100% final end all be all word in anything, is flawed.

Again, I AM SURE that the Top 23 Jordan Brand accounts were allowed to order/promised 23 pairs of the "Titanium Blues" and I am sure that Jordan Brand Marketing will market the sneaker that way, BUT, there are a BILLION things that can upset this situation. I have held several Marketing positions, and I have been on the bad side of a Marketing Plan gone wrong due to circumstances out of my/my team's control.

Take all of this for what it is worth.

Again, no disrespect intended to Steez or JM. This is my two cents.

Thank you for reading this. I have finally made good on the thousands of dollars spent to obtain my Marketing degree (Word to Kanye).

MaZe
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Great post. I hope people actually take the time to read it as I did. It clears up alot and gives credibility to both parties in the"arguement" that is currently taking place. Thanks
 
I seem to remember "someone" already dropped the hint on where these will be...
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I'm in ohio so I'm certain I'm not by one of the top 23 stores, and resell will be more than enough for me, sucks that university/carolina/columbia/powder/sky/whatever name blue is my favorite color and I've been waiting for a carolina blue mid top for a while...


that's the same exact position i'm in. i'm an ohio dude, too and this is my favorite colorway.
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at forced rarity, it makes it so hard to be asneakerhead for anyone outside of larger cities.
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I'm already camping out! Getiin mine justa few more weeks in this tent!!!!!!! Get them just in time for a Basketball tourny on Feb. 6th....YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Man I'm going to hoop on Cats
 
Originally Posted by E Villian

Originally Posted by MaZeDOwNeR

Damn this thread got heated real quick. Before I go into what I am about to post, let it be known that what I am about to type may not be the case in this situation, but, this comes from years of experience. Years of experience that I KNOW both Steez and JM have. So here we go...
Originally Posted by Steez


Official Marketing for these will be 23 pairs for 23 stores. Either you're lying or he is. You're contradicting information that comes straight from the manufacturer. Try again.
Click to expand...

Many times, "Official Marketing" means NOTHING in real application. Marketing is completely different from retail. As both Steez and JM know, Production/Sales/Distribution/Marketing/R&D/Design/etc. operate almost virtually autonomously. Now of course there is plenty inter-departmental communication to attempt to ensure that all of the aforementioned pieces of the chain operate in cohesion, but often times "Marketing" and "Reality" do not exactly mirror each other. This is no fault of marketing nor distro/retail/etc. We are talking about extremely large companies here, imagine how difficult it can be to make sure that each piece of the chain knows and operates EXACTLY according to "plan". Marketing is often one of the last pieces of the chain and the dept. is often given information long after many of the initial processes (R&D/Design/Production/Sales) are already done. Sales' job is to SELL sneakers to retail, Marketing's job is to "SELL" that product to the consumer. In many instances (not just sneakers), a salesperson would have no clue how the product their selling is supposed to be/going to be marketed to the consumer, it is not their job to know. The same thing goes for marketing, many times they have no clue as to how retail is operating, i.e. not knowing how much a product will sell for/where it will be sold/etc., it is not their job to know that. Not everyone who works at a sneaker brand is a sneakerhead and they don't know, or have to, know the ins and outs of their product from A to/through B like people on this board or any devout "sneakerhead".

Now this is true with many things, not just sneakers (and I am not pointing a finger at sneaker brands here either). I am sure many of you on this board can think of a time where any product or service was marketed in a certain way that did not actually prove to be real. Whether the product did not perform as marketed, did not appear where it was marketed to appear, etc. Again this is not the direct fault of any piece of the chain, in many companies there is a large disconnect between departments. Again, I am not saying that this is true of Jordan Brand in any way, but I am saying this so that people can THINK about the entire situation.

Now onto the case of the guy whose Uncle's shop is getting 10 pairs. Again this might not be the case in this instance, but I have had several experiences like this.

Think for a second, that this "Uncle's Shop" is actually NOT ONE OF THE TOP 23 ACCOUNTS AT ALL. He might be a reputable and longstanding JB client that is due a "favor".

Here is a situation that I have experienced in the past.

"Bubba's Banging Sneakers" (doesn't exist, at least I don't think), a reputable and longstanding JB client on the Southside of Chicago, is "promised" the Laser XV. Release date comes and Bubba is Laser XV-less.

Bubba calls his sales rep and says, "What happened to my kix?"

JB sales rep says, "I am sorry, I have no clue what happened, you were supposed to get them."

Bubba says, "you really messed me up on this one."

JB sales rep says, "Let me make it up to you, I will get you 10 PAIRS OF THE LIMITED AIR JORDAN XX3 dropping in January."

Bubba says, "hot diggity dog I am going to bash dudes over the head on this one! Good looking!"

Again, this may not be the case in this instance, but, things like this happen, a lot, I have experienced it myself (I do not own a store but a know a "couple" people that do).

All in all, a lot of things go on outside of Marketing's control and outside of Sales/Distribution's control. To assume that Marketing, or any other department, is the 100% final end all be all word in anything, is flawed.

Again, I AM SURE that the Top 23 Jordan Brand accounts were allowed to order/promised 23 pairs of the "Titanium Blues" and I am sure that Jordan Brand Marketing will market the sneaker that way, BUT, there are a BILLION things that can upset this situation. I have held several Marketing positions, and I have been on the bad side of a Marketing Plan gone wrong due to circumstances out of my/my team's control.

Take all of this for what it is worth.

Again, no disrespect intended to Steez or JM. This is my two cents.

Thank you for reading this. I have finally made good on the thousands of dollars spent to obtain my Marketing degree (Word to Kanye).

MaZe
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Great post. I hope people actually take the time to read it as I did. It clears up alot and gives credibility to both parties in the "arguement" that is currently taking place. Thanks
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I totally hear what you're saying BUT judging how hard JB kept these shoes under wraps and secretive... Id really be surprised if they said that 23stores are getting 23 pairs and that didn't happen. With that small of a distribution, I'm pretty sure they could make sure that it happened like that.

Just as was stated above just because this guys uncle is "supposed" to get 10 pairs that doesn't mean he WILL get them... The ONLY way he MIGHTget 10 pairs is if perhaps the owner of the store has more then one store and is splitting 23 pairs between 2 stores, I guess that could be possible...
 
Originally Posted by Steez


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Here's the official production numbers for the 1st Colorway XX3:

As we've all heard before, 23 doors will carry the shoes in the US.

I've confirmed there will only be 23 pairs per store. 529 pairs available total in the US.

Here's the stitch:

There will also be another 529 pairs available for the rest of the world (outside of the US).

Total 1st Colorway XX3 Production Number = 1058 Pairs Worldwide

This makes it one of the rarest production numbers for an Air Jordan model. The Olympic VI in comparison were batched around 3000 pairs. So unless you're camped out for these, you're going to have a hell of a time getting a pair.
Good luck with your tents.


01/25/2008 Air Jordan XX3
318474-151 White/Titanium-University Blue
$230
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So, I guess these won't find their way to the WV area huh?
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only people who can cop these:

kids (who don't work like most of us) who can camp 7 days in advance for them, or

cats with a connect


otherwise youre spending $500+ wtf
 
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