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Yes, his defense is overrated but he's got post moves galore and range to 18 feet.
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Yes, his defense is overrated but he's got post moves galore and range to 18 feet.
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The real question here is you dont ?
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All I was trying to say without spelling it out was....
Potential if JO gets a solid jumper TO GO with his Post Game >>> Without.
Marc Gasol is the best back-to-the-basket C in the L and its not even close IMO
Boogie is a hybrid but I'd put him #2
Al Jeff #3
Duncan #4
Brook #5
Potential if JO gets a solid jumper TO GO with his Post Game >>> Without.
Marc Gasol is the best back-to-the-basket C in the L and its not even close IMO
Boogie is a hybrid but I'd put him #2
Al Jeff #3
Duncan #4
Brook #5
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People say this sort of stuff ALL THE TIME about bigs coming out of college. Maybe not to the level of Okafor - but still.
People are always thinking that a low post scorer in college won't have any trouble scoring in the post in the league. Then they start playing stronger, bigger, more physical guys. They start facing quick NBA double teams, being fronted by quicker guys, being pushed out of the paint by beasts. All of a sudden that elite post scorer is just pretty good or average. He has to turn to offensive rebounds, a faceup game to score buckets. It took Cousins a LONG time to score effectively in the post and even then - he had to adapt his game. Ton of jump shots, lots of facing up, getting position on the glass. Cousins was an absolute bully in the post in college with a big body and elite touch around the rim.
Okafor is no Shaq. No one is Shaq. Dude was a freak of nature that could not be contained or slowed down by ANYONE.
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^^^ ALL. OF. THAT.
When I originally mentioned the name Shaq I meant the straight post entry feeding that he got game in and game out.
We will never see another dominant big man like Shaq.
When I originally mentioned the name Shaq I meant the straight post entry feeding that he got game in and game out.
We will never see another dominant big man like Shaq.
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Im 99% sure that Porzingis and Kaminsky are gonna be busts
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Decent video on Devin Booker
Looks like it touched on some of the things we discussed earlier. I noted that he displayed all the effort and desire you could hope for on the defensive end, but his average athleticism may not allow him to get past a certain ceiling
He's 18 years old, he could get stronger/quicker/faster-- he's already shown that in "drills" at the combine. He's proving he can look good in "drills". Now when it comes to the game, at the next level, we will see. On either end of the floor, in the college season you could easily see he's just not an athlete
Regardless of his physical tools, I hope his shot becomes semi elite because that's the only way he becomes a niche starter in the league for years to come. That would help him create more offense and give him some wiggle off the dribble. If it isn't elite, I still think he can be a nice bench player. His intelligence and team focus should keep him on a roster
Looks like it touched on some of the things we discussed earlier. I noted that he displayed all the effort and desire you could hope for on the defensive end, but his average athleticism may not allow him to get past a certain ceiling
He's 18 years old, he could get stronger/quicker/faster-- he's already shown that in "drills" at the combine. He's proving he can look good in "drills". Now when it comes to the game, at the next level, we will see. On either end of the floor, in the college season you could easily see he's just not an athlete
Regardless of his physical tools, I hope his shot becomes semi elite because that's the only way he becomes a niche starter in the league for years to come. That would help him create more offense and give him some wiggle off the dribble. If it isn't elite, I still think he can be a nice bench player. His intelligence and team focus should keep him on a roster
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Analytics, Models and the NBA Draft
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analytics-Models-and-the-NBA-Draft-5021/
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analytics-Models-and-the-NBA-Draft-5021/
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i absolutely love love love sabermetrics but i can't get into basketball analytics whatsoever 
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Love Devin and Stanley, especially Devin's defensive potential despite his limitations. Think he could be a JJ Redick type of defender in the league.
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Will Booker's shot ever be as elite as JJ's though? I was thinking-- JJ was a historical shooter in college. That alone gave him a shot to even be on the floor and improve his defense at the next level
If Booker doesn't show the ability to be better than good with his shot (set shot, off curls, screens and off the dribble) will he even get the chance to show his defense...
He's such a young guy that I'd still take a chance on him early
If Booker doesn't show the ability to be better than good with his shot (set shot, off curls, screens and off the dribble) will he even get the chance to show his defense...
He's such a young guy that I'd still take a chance on him early
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Freshman JJ - 39% from 3, 91%
x) from the line.Booker - 41% from 3, 82% from the line.
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JJ: 95-238 from 3 in 33 gamesFreshman JJ - 39% from 3, 91%() from the line.
Booker - 41% from 3, 82% from the line.
Booker: 58-141 from 3 in 38 games
Do you think Booker would have evolved into a JJ type caliber player/shooter further into his college career (given he played at a different school than Kentucky because he was never going to shoot that many 3's at Kentucky
Me personally, I have a hard time seeing that
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This is just
Keep in mind, teams were scheming and game planning to prevent him from shooting 3's or pushing him off the line, double teaming etc.
JJ's ranks:
3-Point Field Goals
2002-03 ACC 95 (1st)
2003-04 NCAA 102 (8th)
2003-04 ACC 102 (2nd)
2004-05 NCAA 121 (3rd)
2004-05 ACC 121 (1st)
2005-06 NCAA 139 (1st)
2005-06 ACC 139 (1st)
Career NCAA* 457 (2nd)
Career ACC* 457 (1st)
Keep in mind, teams were scheming and game planning to prevent him from shooting 3's or pushing him off the line, double teaming etc.
JJ's ranks:
3-Point Field Goals
2002-03 ACC 95 (1st)
2003-04 NCAA 102 (8th)
2003-04 ACC 102 (2nd)
2004-05 NCAA 121 (3rd)
2004-05 ACC 121 (1st)
2005-06 NCAA 139 (1st)
2005-06 ACC 139 (1st)
Career NCAA* 457 (2nd)
Career ACC* 457 (1st)
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Also Stanley surprised a lot of people with his marksmanship from deep this year, but I have serious reservations about his shot release point. Seems too low to ever get good results out of in the NBA. His form makes it really hard for me to see him being an effective shooter off the bounce. Could end up being an awesome 3 and D guy though. He's also a little too heavy IMO.
Rooting for him however, that's the homie.
Rooting for him however, that's the homie.
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I really wish booker could have stay a few years like thompson but like vincent said at that age its gonna be worth the risk .
When exactly did klay begin putting up real #'s for the warriors ? like year 2-3 ...on top of that he stayed 3 years in college so you hope whoever draft him has patience .
When exactly did klay begin putting up real #'s for the warriors ? like year 2-3 ...on top of that he stayed 3 years in college so you hope whoever draft him has patience .
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Klay as pretty good by his second season albeit inefficient.
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name this player:
Weaknesses: An average athlete who plays below the rim ... He's a "momentum athlete" in the sense that he shows solid athleticism when he has momentum moving towards the rim ... Much better in the half court than in the open floor. His lack of elite athleticism gets exposed in the transition game ... Lacks great foot speed which inhibits his ability to take the ball off the dribble against quick defender...Long, athletic defenders can give him trouble
Weaknesses: An average athlete who plays below the rim ... He's a "momentum athlete" in the sense that he shows solid athleticism when he has momentum moving towards the rim ... Much better in the half court than in the open floor. His lack of elite athleticism gets exposed in the transition game ... Lacks great foot speed which inhibits his ability to take the ball off the dribble against quick defender...Long, athletic defenders can give him trouble
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That's exactly why I said I'd still take the chance on Booker. He has everything else you could hope for: intelligence, IQ, height, size, desire on the defensive end, team player, unselfish, good mechanics on shot, played in a winning culture already etc. etc.
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Or Klay may just be an outlier of the tall, long B-athlete sharpshooter group.
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