The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

[xxpizzo]

SIXERS ARE NOT TRADING NOEL 

 

[stillin729]

He trades Noel and I'm done with the franchise for a long time.

Agreed, they have to trade that #3 pick if Russell is gone

 

[wavycrocket]

Tough to categorize an international player. Like embiid is clearly and international player to me. Even though he came over at 16 and played college ball here. Same with Ben Simmons.

While I see Mudiay as an American player because he came here at 6. It's tough.

Idk where to draw the line...but you kind of just "know". Think it has to do with how "Americanized" a player is...and how long he's been here.

 

[stillin729]

Embiid is an international player? What?

 

[finallyfamous]

Yeah I don't consider players international when they go to an American college

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/...rs-2015-los-angeles-lakers-philadelphia-76ers

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/25/nb...buzz-demarcus-cousins-kevin-love-kings-lakers

 

[wavycrocket]

So Dikembe, Linas Kleiza, Hakeem etc aren't considered international to some of you?

Always thought that was clear.

 

[stillin729]

If you play in the NCAA you are no longer international IMO

 

[ricardo malta]

If they're not an American citizen then they're an international player. How is that so hard to comprehend?

 

[antidope]

So Dikembe, Linas Kleiza, Hakeem etc aren't considered international to some of you?

Always thought that was clear.

This is what I said. I'm clearly on the left side of the fence with this one by the responses I've gotten since I posed the question.

 

[Brownstone]

But we're talking basketball here, not citizenship. If your only experience with the game of basketball is in America you are an American prospect imo

 

[dacomeup]

 So if you grow up elsewhere and play CBB here, then you aren't international? That's amazing. 

 

[jjs07]

You are what your citizenship is.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Tough to categorize an international player. Like embiid is clearly and international player to me. Even though he came over at 16 and played college ball here. Same with Ben Simmons.

While I see Mudiay as an American player because he came here at 6. It's tough.

Idk where to draw the line...but you kind of just "know". Think it has to do with how "Americanized" a player is...and how long he's been here.

If Simmons actually played HS ball in the states dude is not international. Come on now

So was Kobe international too

 

[shoeking2102]

Can't wait to see some team make some gigantic reach resulting in mass hysteria tonight

 

[ricardo malta]

You are what your citizenship is.

Exactly. I don't know why this is so hard for people.

 

[6 man]

Yall are arguing different points.

This started after dude posted the numbers on international prospects in the lottery.

While technically...yes you're considered international if you aren't an American...there's a clear differenence between how we view guys that come over here and play HS and ncaa basketball versus international prospects that are coming over from professional European leagues.

Like there's a clear difference in how we view Andrew Wiggins and someone like Jan Veseley.

 

[jjs07]

You are what your citizenship is.

Exactly. I don't know why this is so hard for people.

My head was hurting reading this debate. It's really not that hard to understand what an international player is...

 

[dacomeup]

Yall are arguing different points.

This started after dude posted the numbers on international prospects in the lottery.

While technically...yes you're considered international if you aren't an American...there's a clear differenence between how we view guys that come over here and play HS and ncaa basketball versus international prospects that are coming over from professional European leagues.

Like there's a clear difference in how we view Andrew Wiggins and someone like Jan Veseley.

Both are still international prospects. 

 

[ricardo malta]

Yall are arguing different points.

This started after dude posted the numbers on international prospects in the lottery.

While technically...yes you're considered international if you aren't an American...there's a clear differenence between how we view guys that come over here and play HS and ncaa basketball versus international prospects that are coming over from professional European leagues.

Like there's a clear difference in how we view Andrew Wiggins and someone like Jan Veseley.

How so? Wiggins is viewed as an international talent, same as Veseley. Only difference is we had a bigger sample size to analyze Wiggins than we did Vesely. Otherwise, what's the difference between the two?

 

[6 man]

Both are still international prospects. 

That's exactly what I just said.

I'm speaking from an EVALUATION point of view. There's a difference how we view guys that play HS/aau/college vs dudes coming from euro leagues where we don't have the luxury of following them the same way.

 

[al3xis]

So the Lakers are actually going to get this right, huh?

 

[Brownstone]

That's exactly what I just said.

I'm speaking from an EVALUATION point of view. There's a difference how we view guys that play HS/say/baca vs dudes coming from euro leagues where we don't have the luxury of following them the same way.

Exactly, if you view Dominique Wilkins and Kristap to both be international prospects, you have to recognize there is a culture that comes with being brought up in that system and just being born somewhere outside of the states.

 

[ricardo malta]

Exactly, if you view Dominique Wilkins and Kristap to both be international prospects, you have to recognize there is a culture that comes with being brought up in that system and just being born somewhere outside of the states.

I don't even know what angle y'all are debating for anymore

 

[carver]

Can we pick yet