THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

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sea manup said:
Not sure why trading for star players is any different from signing players. Most teams don't have the cap space to sign a 20 mil a year contract. No one says lebron didn't choose to go to Miami because he was traded, same with bosh same with kg to the celtics.

Point is the lakers have been able to get all the right pieces to build multiple championship teams while other small market franchises didn't. If the fact that we traded for these guys rather than signing them as free agents makes you feel better than good for you, keep thinking that.
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JPZ, you call us virtual world dwellers, then mention the Lakers "MIGHT" be willing to trade their picks for Boogie.

Might.

Might.


M. I. G. H. T.

That somehow validates us being stupid for not wanting to trade multiple first round picks for an upcoming free agent we could simply sign and add to said picks. Who's the one virtual living right now?

"Might"


Then you mention role guys since 96. Rick Fox and, Derek Fisher????? We drafted Fish, so I assume you meant when we signed him in 2007.

I guess trades for Glen Rice, Trevor Ariza, Pau Gasol, CP3, Steve Nash, and Dwight Howard don't matter.

Or signing Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Horace Grant, Ron Artest, Matt Barnes.

Or to use your words, we "Might" be signing someone in a few days, and next year too.

As for "not" signing any "big names". Well, last 20 years, how many years were we below the cap to sign anyone? :nerd: Who could we sign for 20+ mil a year that we didn't already have? Cuz we extended Shaq, Kobe, Pau, Bynum, and LO over that timeframe.

Guess we live in "virtual" worlds where we can't just add free agents on top of all those players and contracts.

But none of that fits your anti Laker fan agenda, so you typed all that nonsense hopin no one would catch on and point out all the flaws in your statement.

You have to have cap room to sign big fish. If you already have them (via any route you get them) all you can do is extend them. Since the day we signed Shaq in 96, we haven't had any season's with unused cap space unless last season.

But hey, don't let facts like those get in your way, right b? :wink:
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These seem like smart, well informed basketball fans
 
Free Agent Buzz: With opt out, LeBron James stays in full control

Leverage, the rarest of feats for professional athletes, has become LeBron James' middle name.

By informing the Cavaliers that he's opting out of his contract and becoming a free agent on July 1, James remains in full control -- as much or more than he was at any point during the NBA Finals.

As much influence as James has on the court, he wields even more in the offseason conference rooms, where team executives will be crunching numbers, calling agents and agreeing to trades and free-agent deals beginning at 12:01 a.m. ET on Wednesday.

James, at the height of his power and influence at age 30, will just sit back and watch it all unfold.

For the uninitiated, there is no mystery about James' intentions. When he returned home to Cleveland last summer, he did so with a two-year deal with a player option for the 2015-16 season at $21.6 million. With full knowledge that the salary cap and max salaries would increase exponentially with the infusion of TV revenue in 2016, James was simply positioning himself to maximize his earnings when he becomes a free agent again next summer.

While other top free agents like LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love and Kawhi Leonard face the same temptation, the risk is less for James than it is for any of them. Even when the max goes up next summer, James will still be grossly underpaid -- and his basketball income will still represent a fraction of his total earnings.

So not only does James' contractual maneuvering allow him to squeeze out every dollar he can legally be paid, it also gives him unspoken leverage over the personnel decisions that are made around him in Cleveland. It is why James is enjoying an unprecedented run of three consecutive summers of power and influence, and Carmelo Anthony is stuck in New York with a five-year, $124 million contract and a rebuilding roster.

So as James sits back, the Cavs will make decisions on re-signing restricted free agent Tristan Thompson and unrestricted free agent Kevin Love while trying to get creative with other roster additions that will please King James. Even though James isn't directly involving himself in the process, he doesn't have to. He holds all the cards.

So fear not, Cavs fans. James isn't going anywhere -- except to the top of the list of the most powerful and influential basketball players ever. It's got to be lonely up there, but worth it.

Closing in on Kawhi. While the Spurs await official word that Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili are coming back, their first order of business will be swift and simple: Re-signing defensive player of the year Kawhi Leonard to a five-year max deal, league sources told CBSSports.com.

Don't expect any big recruitment meetings, songs or dances when the negotiating floodgates open just after midnight ET Wednesday -- just a simple, quietly executed agreement that will keep Leonard in San Antonio well into his prime. The max deal is likely to have an early-termination option after the fourth season, sources said.

Leonard, who turns 24 on Monday, waited a year to get his commitment from the Spurs so the team would have payroll flexibility. He isn't inclined to do a shorter deal and take advantage of the rising cap next summer; there's injury risk involved, and Leonard will still be young enough to reap the benefits of the higher cap when he hits the market again in 2019.

With Leonard in the fold, the Spurs will immediately focus their attention on unrestricted free agent LaMarcus Aldridge, and there's a legitimate chance he ends up joining the five-time champions, said a person familiar with the situation. The expectation is that Duncan will be back for his 19th season, and that Ginobili will return at a deeply discounted rate, sources said. Ginobili will announce his intentions in a column he will write for an Argentine newspaper.

If there's a fear among Spurs executives, it's that they won't have enough room left to retain Danny Green, who has attracted interest from the Mavs, Blazers and Pistons, sources said.
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Minny has had cap room every year since KG left the first time correct? Why haven't they signed any big time free agents. Oh that's right, nobody wants to play for your abomination of a franchise. You lucky Bron gifted you Wiggins.
 
Mamba MVP said:
Minny has had cap room every year since KG left the first time correct? Why haven't they signed any big time free agents. Oh that's right, nobody wants to play for your abomination of a franchise. You lucky Bron gifted you Wiggins.
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hey, my 2k my player was drafted by them and won multiple titles.
 
Mamba MVP said:
Minny has had cap room every year since KG left the first time correct? Why haven't they signed any big time free agents. Oh that's right, nobody wants to play for your abomination of a franchise. You lucky Bron gifted you Wiggins.
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Head shots

Will wait for the rebuttal 
 
There's also the irrational lakers fan factor that gives our players extra confidence

These dumb laker fans are putting up please stay nick young posters while Knicks fans boo the hell out of every rookie they draft

Lakers players are treated like kings and play above their abilities
 
We don't need shots at Minnesota as a franchise. They have a very bright future with Towns/Wiggins.

No need to bag on them. JPZ was tryin to make a point about Laker fans, and our expectations, and in a lot of ways he has a point, he just took the wrong approach on this one.

Don't hate on the wolves over his opinion.
 
lets see kobe make it thru a full season. he hasnt been able to, dude better retire already. we cant fully rebuild till dude is done.
 
cavs fans do you guys want love back?

mozgov is solid and TT stepped up in the playoffs when love went down. neither of these guys are offensive playmakers but were competent enough. with varajao on the payroll (and i imagine very hard to trade), lebron able to play the PF position, and mozgov due for an extension next year, the front court seems pretty solidified. are there any indications that the cavs wont extend TT, who wants near max money?
 
Back to the #1 hated spot and we ain't eem do asterisk yet ....other teams fans getting nervous

Ahhhh feels good!
 
CP1708 said:
We don't need shots at Minnesota as a franchise. They have a very bright future with Towns/Wiggins.

No need to bag on them. JPZ was tryin to make a point about Laker fans, and our expectations, and in a lot of ways he has a point, he just took the wrong approach on this one.

Don't hate on the wolves over his opinion.
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Respect.

A Lakers fan that speaks rationally
 
Sixers are suing the Lakers over Bynum.

WTF Hinkie you want everyone to hate us 
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Am I missing something???

Why are Lakers fans puffing they chest out?? I mean I understand the whole big city able to attract FAs ( even tho they haven't been able to the last few years) but....

LA Prolly going to the spurs...

Cousins is not a lock...

Marc already said no to LA..

So all this confidence is coming from Russell and a washed Kobe???
 
Lakers future is looking bright after the uncertainty of losing our pick this year. FAs are being linked to us. Kobe's last year and contract on the books.

Why wouldn't Laker fans be excited?
 
I look forward to minny washing the Lakers in the playoffs in the coming years...

That's if they can land a big name FA to make the playoffs :lol:
 
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