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Hard to say, no idea what the government will offer in the future
The Tesla Motors Appreciation Thread
Hard to say, no idea what the government will offer in the future
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That 35k is bare bones
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turned on Ludicrous mode the other day on the fwy.... OH MY LAWDDD
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Also new problem now; the navigation doesn't work.
I'll have 4 bars of data and the internet browser, internet radio, and everything else works except for turn by turn navigation.
Going to have to bring the car in for service....again.
I'll have 4 bars of data and the internet browser, internet radio, and everything else works except for turn by turn navigation.
Going to have to bring the car in for service....again.
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loving the new 7 but yea the S>>>>>>>>>>>
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heard tesla ios having issue with the self driving gettig into accidents, its to expoect you have to break a few eggs to make an omlet
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My boss has the X but I pretty much drive it everyday lol like my car
His everyday is the model S
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Bruh after all your problems I wouldnt even want to touch a Tesla
Customer Service at least good?
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Bruh after all your problems I wouldnt even want to touch a Tesla
Customer Service at least good?
I haven't scheduled the appointment yet but if it's like last time I won't have an appointment for at least 2-3 weeks.
They provide you another Tesla. If not then they give you a "luxury" sedan, usually something like a C-Class benz, or Audi A3. They pay for gas, but mane those cars feel cheap and cramped.
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2-3 Weeks. Damn and I used to be mad at the Audi dealerships when they said it would be a day or two till they could see me with an appt.
Thats not too bad that they give you another Tesla or a "lux" sedan but entry level gotta feel like trash compared to your Tesla.
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C-class ain't luxury, that's basically a Chrysler 300 IMO except much smaller
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Lol I see nothing wrong with CLA/Cs or A3/A4, 2/3 series
It's all about trim.......options.
I'm not into big body cars at all for myself
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Bruh after all your problems I wouldnt even want to touch a Tesla
Customer Service at least good?
I haven't scheduled the appointment yet but if it's like last time I won't have an appointment for at least 2-3 weeks.
They provide you another Tesla. If not then they give you a "luxury" sedan, usually something like a C-Class benz, or Audi A3. They pay for gas, but mane those cars feel cheap and cramped.
How much longer is yours under warranty?
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July 13th is my appointment 
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July 13th is my appointment
:x Just trade the darn thing in for a new one already lol
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July 13th is my appointment
Smh.
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[h1]Self-Driving Tesla Was Involved in Fatal Crash, U.S. Says[/h1]
By BILL VLASIC and NEAL E. BOUDETTEJUNE 30, 2016
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A Tesla Model S, with its self-driving mode enabled. In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it had sent an investigative team to examine the vehicle and the crash site in Williston, Fla.
CreditJasper Juinen/Bloomberg
DETROIT — The race by automakers and technology firms to develop self-driving cars has been fueled by the belief that computers can operate a vehicle more safely than human drivers.
But that view is now in question after the revelation on Thursday that the driver of a Tesla Model S electric sedan was killed in an accident when the car was in self-driving mode.
Federal regulators, who are in the early stages of setting guidelines for autonomous vehicles, have opened a formal investigation into the incident, which occurred on May 7 in Williston, Fla.
In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said preliminary reports indicated that the crash occurred when a tractor-trailer made a left turn in front of the Tesla, and the car failed to apply the brakes.
It is the first known fatal accident involving a vehicle being driven by itself by means of sophisticated computer software, sensors, cameras and radar.
The safety agency did not identify the Tesla driver who was killed. But the Florida Highway Patrol identified him as Joshua Brown, 40, of Canton, Ohio.
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A diagram from the police report about the Tesla crash shows how the vehicle in self-driving mode (V02) struck a tractor-trailer (V01) as it was turning left. CreditFlorida Highway Patrol
He was a Navy veteran who owned a technology consulting firm. In a news release, Tesla on Thursday described him as a man “who spent his life focused on innovation and the promise of technology and who believed strongly in Tesla’s mission.”
Mr. Brown posted videos of himself riding in autopilot mode. “The car’s doing it all itself,’’ he said in one, smiling as he took his hands from the steering wheel.
In another, he praised the system for saving his car from an accident.
The death is a blow to Tesla at a time when the company is pushing to expand its product lineup from expensive electric vehicles to more mainstream models. The company on Thursday declined to say whether the technology or the driver or either were at fault in the accident.
In its news release it said, “Neither autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor-trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied.”
The crash also casts doubt on whether autonomous vehicles in general can consistently make split-second, life-or-death driving decisions on the highway.
And other companies are increasing investments in self-driving technology. Google, for example, recently announced plans to adapt 100 Chrysler minivans for autonomous driving. Earlier this year, G.M. acquired the software firm Cruise Automation to accelerate its own self-driving applications.
Even as the companies conduct many tests on autonomous vehicles at both private facilities and on public highways, there is skepticism that the technology has progressed far enough for the government to approve cars that totally drive themselves.
[h4]Hands-Free, on the Highway[/h4]
The driver who tested the Tesla Model S with the new autopilot feature was nervous at first, but soon learned to let the computer drive the car.
The traffic safety agency said it was working with the Florida Highway Patrol in the inquiry into Mr. Brown’s fatal accident. The agency cautioned that the opening of an investigation did not mean it thought there was a defect in the vehicle being examined.
The federal traffic safety agency is nearing the release of a new set of guidelines and regulations regarding the testing of self-driving vehicles on public roads. They are expected to be released in July.
At a recent technology conference in Novi, Mich., the agency’s leader, Mark Rosekind, said self-driving cars should at least be twice as safe as human drivers to result in a significant reduction in roadway deaths. “We need to start with two times better,’’ Mr. Rosekind said. “We need to set a higher bar if we expect safety to actually be a benefit here.”
Karl Brauer, an analyst with the auto research firm Kelley Blue Book, said the accident served as a signal that the technology might not be as advanced and ready for the market as some proponents have suggested.
“This is a bit of a wake-up call,” Mr. Brauer said. “People who were maybe too aggressive in taking the position that we’re almost there, this technology is going to be in the market very soon, maybe need to reassess that.”
Tesla said in its news release that it had informed the traffic safety agency about the accident “immediately after it occurred.” But the company reported it publicly only on Thursday, after learning that the agency had begun to investigate.
Mr. Brown had spent 11 years in the Navy and then founded a technology consulting company, Nexu Innovations, according to a May obituary of Mr. Brown in The Greensburg Tribune Review in Westmoreland County, Pa., where he had formerly lived.
An excerpt of Joshua Brown’s obituary from The Greensburg Tribune Review in Westmoreland County, Pa., where he had formerly lived.
The Nexu Innovations website, describing Mr. Brown as founder and owner, said that in the Navy he had been on active duty as a “master explosive ordnance disposal technician,” including a stint with the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, which is commonly known as SEAL Team 6.
Ricky Hammer, a retired Navy master chief who worked with Mr. Brown at the development group, said Mr. Brown had strong computer skills and “was the equivalent of an electrical engineer even though he didn’t have the degree.”
In Iraq in 2006, he said, Mr. Brown played a crucial role in preparing captured explosive projectiles for shipment to the United States to support efforts to improve the armor on military vehicles.
“He did it by being very aggressive,” Mr. Hammer said, noting that Mr. Brown helped to collect the projectiles after raids on bomb-making shops and would X-ray them to determine their contents.
In the past, Elon Musk, the Tesla chief executive, has praised the company’s self-driving feature, introduced in the Model S last fall, as “probably better than a person right now.”
But in its statement on Thursday, the company cautioned that it was still only a test feature and noted that its use ‘‘requires explicit acknowledgment that the system is new technology.’’
It noted that when a driver activated the system, an acknowledgment box popped up, explaining that the autopilot mode “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html
By BILL VLASIC and NEAL E. BOUDETTEJUNE 30, 2016
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A Tesla Model S, with its self-driving mode enabled. In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it had sent an investigative team to examine the vehicle and the crash site in Williston, Fla.
CreditJasper Juinen/Bloomberg
DETROIT — The race by automakers and technology firms to develop self-driving cars has been fueled by the belief that computers can operate a vehicle more safely than human drivers.
But that view is now in question after the revelation on Thursday that the driver of a Tesla Model S electric sedan was killed in an accident when the car was in self-driving mode.
Federal regulators, who are in the early stages of setting guidelines for autonomous vehicles, have opened a formal investigation into the incident, which occurred on May 7 in Williston, Fla.
In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said preliminary reports indicated that the crash occurred when a tractor-trailer made a left turn in front of the Tesla, and the car failed to apply the brakes.
It is the first known fatal accident involving a vehicle being driven by itself by means of sophisticated computer software, sensors, cameras and radar.
The safety agency did not identify the Tesla driver who was killed. But the Florida Highway Patrol identified him as Joshua Brown, 40, of Canton, Ohio.
Photo
A diagram from the police report about the Tesla crash shows how the vehicle in self-driving mode (V02) struck a tractor-trailer (V01) as it was turning left. CreditFlorida Highway Patrol
He was a Navy veteran who owned a technology consulting firm. In a news release, Tesla on Thursday described him as a man “who spent his life focused on innovation and the promise of technology and who believed strongly in Tesla’s mission.”
Mr. Brown posted videos of himself riding in autopilot mode. “The car’s doing it all itself,’’ he said in one, smiling as he took his hands from the steering wheel.
In another, he praised the system for saving his car from an accident.
The death is a blow to Tesla at a time when the company is pushing to expand its product lineup from expensive electric vehicles to more mainstream models. The company on Thursday declined to say whether the technology or the driver or either were at fault in the accident.
In its news release it said, “Neither autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor-trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied.”
The crash also casts doubt on whether autonomous vehicles in general can consistently make split-second, life-or-death driving decisions on the highway.
And other companies are increasing investments in self-driving technology. Google, for example, recently announced plans to adapt 100 Chrysler minivans for autonomous driving. Earlier this year, G.M. acquired the software firm Cruise Automation to accelerate its own self-driving applications.
Even as the companies conduct many tests on autonomous vehicles at both private facilities and on public highways, there is skepticism that the technology has progressed far enough for the government to approve cars that totally drive themselves.
[h4]Hands-Free, on the Highway[/h4]
The driver who tested the Tesla Model S with the new autopilot feature was nervous at first, but soon learned to let the computer drive the car.
The traffic safety agency said it was working with the Florida Highway Patrol in the inquiry into Mr. Brown’s fatal accident. The agency cautioned that the opening of an investigation did not mean it thought there was a defect in the vehicle being examined.
The federal traffic safety agency is nearing the release of a new set of guidelines and regulations regarding the testing of self-driving vehicles on public roads. They are expected to be released in July.
At a recent technology conference in Novi, Mich., the agency’s leader, Mark Rosekind, said self-driving cars should at least be twice as safe as human drivers to result in a significant reduction in roadway deaths. “We need to start with two times better,’’ Mr. Rosekind said. “We need to set a higher bar if we expect safety to actually be a benefit here.”
Karl Brauer, an analyst with the auto research firm Kelley Blue Book, said the accident served as a signal that the technology might not be as advanced and ready for the market as some proponents have suggested.
“This is a bit of a wake-up call,” Mr. Brauer said. “People who were maybe too aggressive in taking the position that we’re almost there, this technology is going to be in the market very soon, maybe need to reassess that.”
Tesla said in its news release that it had informed the traffic safety agency about the accident “immediately after it occurred.” But the company reported it publicly only on Thursday, after learning that the agency had begun to investigate.
Mr. Brown had spent 11 years in the Navy and then founded a technology consulting company, Nexu Innovations, according to a May obituary of Mr. Brown in The Greensburg Tribune Review in Westmoreland County, Pa., where he had formerly lived.
An excerpt of Joshua Brown’s obituary from The Greensburg Tribune Review in Westmoreland County, Pa., where he had formerly lived.
The Nexu Innovations website, describing Mr. Brown as founder and owner, said that in the Navy he had been on active duty as a “master explosive ordnance disposal technician,” including a stint with the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, which is commonly known as SEAL Team 6.
Ricky Hammer, a retired Navy master chief who worked with Mr. Brown at the development group, said Mr. Brown had strong computer skills and “was the equivalent of an electrical engineer even though he didn’t have the degree.”
In Iraq in 2006, he said, Mr. Brown played a crucial role in preparing captured explosive projectiles for shipment to the United States to support efforts to improve the armor on military vehicles.
“He did it by being very aggressive,” Mr. Hammer said, noting that Mr. Brown helped to collect the projectiles after raids on bomb-making shops and would X-ray them to determine their contents.
In the past, Elon Musk, the Tesla chief executive, has praised the company’s self-driving feature, introduced in the Model S last fall, as “probably better than a person right now.”
But in its statement on Thursday, the company cautioned that it was still only a test feature and noted that its use ‘‘requires explicit acknowledgment that the system is new technology.’’
It noted that when a driver activated the system, an acknowledgment box popped up, explaining that the autopilot mode “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html
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Tesla is washed.
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self drive cars = RIP
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then what are regular cars?
