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Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
they're pretty close...... the only real advantages I see for either player are as follows:
Kobe Bryant: shooting, scoring
LeBron James: playmaking, rebounding
Everything is is too close at this point.... but you can't go wrong with either player....
Also when you look at how much Kobe or LeBron score, especially their season averages, try to look at the FG % too because that tells you how efficient a player is.......
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
they're pretty close...... the only real advantages I see for either player are as follows:
Kobe Bryant: shooting, scoring
LeBron James: playmaking, rebounding
Everything is is too close at this point.... but you can't go wrong with either player....
Also when you look at how much Kobe or LeBron score, especially their season averages, try to look at the FG % too because that tells you how efficient a player is.......wow Kobe has point one more steals than LeBronLebron's averaging a whole block per game more than Kobe.
Kobe= Defensive GOAT.
Kobe is trailing dude in every offensive statistical category besides FT.
Originally Posted by bobby24K
Originally Posted by outacontrol music
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
they're pretty close...... the only real advantages I see for either player are as follows:
Kobe Bryant: shooting, scoring
LeBron James: playmaking, rebounding
Everything is is too close at this point.... but you can't go wrong with either player....
Also when you look at how much Kobe or LeBron score, especially their season averages, try to look at the FG % too because that tells you how efficient a player is.......wow Kobe has point one more steals than LeBronLebron's averaging a whole block per game more than Kobe.
Kobe= Defensive GOAT.
Kobe is trailing dude in every offensive statistical category besides FT.
Hmmm...Kobe also has better 3pt % and the most important stat Kobe's team is 27-12, while LeBron's is 21-17. So Kobe > Lebron
Kobe is trailing dude in every offensive statistical category besides FT
All you just proved is that Lebron is a better fantasy player.
And who's team is better?
To me defense cant be measured in numbers. There's no stats for making someone miss, denying someone the ball, forcing turnovers, which Kobe is farsuperior in. When there's 5 minutes left in a close game, you know Kobe is guarding the best guard/forward who ever it may be.
Come on now. You know how Team 24 do.Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
you guys are hilarious saying LeBron is garbage..... just because Kobe is good means everyone else has to be garbage? No need to bash any player necessary (Iverson, McGrady, Jordan, Vince, LeBron, etc) in order to defend Kobe..... we know how good Kobe is..... but LeBron has an NBDL team around him and they are over .500.... They beat the Celtics... I mean some of you guys are hilarious....
outacontrol music:nothing more hilarious than Kobe fans in denial.keep it up fellas.
Listen, bro... I am WAY more of a LeBron fan than a Kobe fan. The main reason I can say that is because I'm no Kobe fan, but I am a LeBronfan.
But I don't let my biases eliminate what I see; Kobe is a better defender.
And like I said earlier: I thought people always complained about Kobe fans bringing Kobe up in threadsabout other superstars (especially threads about LeBron); the opposite isn't happening in here, is it?SHUGES:
At least Bron has been a model citizen (excluding a flimsy speeding ticket) up to this point.
How do you know... KNOW... this is true? Because we haven't HEARD of any negative behaviors from him? As far as image control is concerned,all I will give LeBron credit for is maintaining a good image, but that does NOT mean he's been a model citizen. t means that he either HAS been a modelcitizen, OR hes done very well in keeping things under wraps and NOT GETTING CAUGHT.
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
you guys are hilarious saying LeBron is garbage..... just because Kobe is good means everyone else has to be garbage? No need to bash any player necessary (Iverson, McGrady, Jordan, Vince, LeBron, etc) in order to defend Kobe..... we know how good Kobe is..... but LeBron has an NBDL team around him and they are over .500.... They beat the Celtics... I mean some of you guys are hilarious....
I'm a big fan of both players today and once again am saying KB has a more advanced skill set at this point.......Originally Posted by bobby24K
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
you guys are hilarious saying LeBron is garbage..... just because Kobe is good means everyone else has to be garbage? No need to bash any player necessary (Iverson, McGrady, Jordan, Vince, LeBron, etc) in order to defend Kobe..... we know how good Kobe is..... but LeBron has an NBDL team around him and they are over .500.... They beat the Celtics... I mean some of you guys are hilarious....
I don't think anyone who knows anything about basketball knows LeBron isn't garbage, and I don't think those direct words came from anyone's mouth. If you are a fan of a certain player of course you may take exception to when someone tries to put your favorite player down. For instance if someone on this board says that Jordan isn't the GOAT, they are precieved as being blasphemous to say such a thing. And Jordanites will say anything and bring out all the stats to prove that he is.
This is the similar situation with Kobe/LeBron right know. Kobe is viewed by many who know basketball and have actually played in the NBA as the best player in the game right now. LeBron is no doubt closing the gap and still has room for improvement, but until he shows up certain facets of his game namely his defense and jumpshooting, he isn't as good as Kobe is RIGHT NOW. Who knows in a couple of years, I mean the knock on Kobe since he's been in the league is that he's always had the talent, just maybe no the right attitude in going about things the way he does as far as relationships with his teammates, etc, but each year he has been improving in that aspect of his game and this year has taken it to the next level, so anyone can change.
As fans we are all guilty of rooting passionately for our teams and favorite players, often times at the expense of bring down other players/teams in the process. I mean probably the majority of the people on NT weren't around or didn't get to see Jordan's greatness in its fullness, I know I wasn't as I was born in '88, but when I did start following the NBA and playing basketball when I was about 6 or 7 he was without a doubt my favorite player, but does that qualify me to say he's the GOAT. No, I wasn't there to witness Bill Russell, Magic, Wilt, Bird, etc. so I really can't justify my claim. So we all need to cool out on tearing down these amazing players and just appreciate the different talents they bring to the table. And when sometimes someone says Kobe or LeBron is the GOAT they wont have to be hit with the, because maybe that's all they've seen.
I don't think anyone who knows anything about basketball knows LeBron isn't garbage, and I don't think those direct words came from anyone's mouth.
I'm not sure if you caught this quote on this very page
Originally Posted by 24 K B 8
Lebronze is still garbage.....All Stats and nothing to show for it
At least Bron has been a model citizen (excluding a flimsy speeding ticket) up to this point
If only I could have had a Hummer when I was 16 in high school.
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
I'm a big fan of both players today and once again am saying KB has a more advanced skill set at this point.......Originally Posted by bobby24K
Originally Posted by BullsRepeat3Peat
you guys are hilarious saying LeBron is garbage..... just because Kobe is good means everyone else has to be garbage? No need to bash any player necessary (Iverson, McGrady, Jordan, Vince, LeBron, etc) in order to defend Kobe..... we know how good Kobe is..... but LeBron has an NBDL team around him and they are over .500.... They beat the Celtics... I mean some of you guys are hilarious....
I don't think anyone who knows anything about basketball knows LeBron isn't garbage, and I don't think those direct words came from anyone's mouth. If you are a fan of a certain player of course you may take exception to when someone tries to put your favorite player down. For instance if someone on this board says that Jordan isn't the GOAT, they are precieved as being blasphemous to say such a thing. And Jordanites will say anything and bring out all the stats to prove that he is.
This is the similar situation with Kobe/LeBron right know. Kobe is viewed by many who know basketball and have actually played in the NBA as the best player in the game right now. LeBron is no doubt closing the gap and still has room for improvement, but until he shows up certain facets of his game namely his defense and jumpshooting, he isn't as good as Kobe is RIGHT NOW. Who knows in a couple of years, I mean the knock on Kobe since he's been in the league is that he's always had the talent, just maybe no the right attitude in going about things the way he does as far as relationships with his teammates, etc, but each year he has been improving in that aspect of his game and this year has taken it to the next level, so anyone can change.
As fans we are all guilty of rooting passionately for our teams and favorite players, often times at the expense of bring down other players/teams in the process. I mean probably the majority of the people on NT weren't around or didn't get to see Jordan's greatness in its fullness, I know I wasn't as I was born in '88, but when I did start following the NBA and playing basketball when I was about 6 or 7 he was without a doubt my favorite player, but does that qualify me to say he's the GOAT. No, I wasn't there to witness Bill Russell, Magic, Wilt, Bird, etc. so I really can't justify my claim. So we all need to cool out on tearing down these amazing players and just appreciate the different talents they bring to the table. And when sometimes someone says Kobe or LeBron is the GOAT they wont have to be hit with the, because maybe that's all they've seen.
I don't think anyone who knows anything about basketball knows LeBron isn't garbage, and I don't think those direct words came from anyone's mouth.
Originally Posted by 24 K B 8
Lebronze is still garbage.....All Stats and nothing to show for it
How do you know... KNOW... this is true? Because we haven't HEARD of any negative behaviors from him? As far as image control is concerned, all I will give LeBron credit for is maintaining a good image, but that does NOT mean he's been a model citizen. t means that he either HAS been a model citizen, OR hes done very well in keeping things under wraps and NOT GETTING CAUGHT.Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
SHUGES:
At least Bron has been a model citizen (excluding a flimsy speeding ticket) up to this point.
Originally Posted by MarsIV
At least Bron has been a model citizen (excluding a flimsy speeding ticket) up to this point