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I think it's some kind of "any-creasing" strategy. Anybody who had old school 13s knows they crease like crazy. I never really minded this and I thought I looked good, but these new heads hate creasing. I have the 2017 Black and Red 13s and used to wear them regularly to the gym. They just...

These are the 05s. Look at the shape I'll still probably buy the 2020s cause my 05s are beat, but they did a horrible job IMO. The shape is bad, the upper looks flat instead of padded, the toe box looks weird, the cut seems low. All they did was give 3m back and people seem to be satisfied

The complaints come from a place of love tho. We want these to be dope and they just aren't. If you had the 2017 Black/Red 13s then you'd know why we're all complaining. Those had horrible quality and a super weird shape and these look to be the same These have Gentry written all over them.

These are one of my GOAT Jordans so I'm gonna by em, but the shape/quality so far looks TERRIBLE https://www.kicksonfire.com/air-jordan-13-flint-2020-new-images/

That ankle collar is disgusting I had high hopes for these. They ruined them

https://solecollector.com/news/2008/07/gentry-humphrey-s-closet-of-dreams This is the interview that made me kinda hate dude. Fusion talk starts at about 7:00

I know he preferred limited drops, but then he also preferred releasing like 6 different retro models a month. Gentry FLOODED the release calendar with unnecessary releases that nobody wanted.

The biggest problem with Gentry IMO is more than just bad Retro+ colorways. I agree that he had some good Retro+ colorways. His biggest issue was how he ruined OG models and colorways. Remember that he was the driving force behind Fusions. He had this weird obsession with respecting the OG...

By target market I mean the older heads like the NT OGs who have been here since the early 2000s. We would buy Damn near anything we saw Mike wear with the Bulls. They're sacrificing the blindly loyal crowd for the young fickle crowd who don't really care at all about Jordan Brand You can't...

You make good points, but Ferrari hasn't been putting out garbage like Jordan Brand has lately. That analogy doesn't exactly work because the JB's decline in quality and increase in price has been a pain point for years. I know JB is raking in tons money, and I'm not saying they're gonna...

I'm pretty sure Gentry is gonna ruin what's left of the brand, but I don't know about that renaissance... It's getting to the point now where they've released most of the classics. Most of the heavily sought after shoes have been released in the past few years. Pretty much everybody has access...

First new Jordans I haven't completed hated in a while, but I still don't feel em. These just look extremely strange on foot.

These are straight up awful

Diet Cool Grey since we giving all these shoes dumb nicknames these days.

Yall are completely missing the point. I've had MULTIPLE pairs of 10s in the past including the OGs and they all had more cushion that these. I'm not asking for Jordan 32 comfort, I'm just saying they should feel as good as previous 10s

A fanboy is somebody who is just blindly loyal to one brand and refuses to give credit to another brand's products. Maybe you aren't a fanboy, but all I can go by is what I see. Whenever a convo redirects to some Adidas hate, I check out. I'm not loyal to any brand and I think every brand has...

Not saying you, I'm more talking about the other dude is a fanboy. Whenever somebody is complaining about JB and then somebody else tries to steer the convo into some Adidas hate, chances are they are a fanboy. Adidas makes JB/Nike fanboys VERY Insecure.

Quit being a fanboy. This has nothing to do with Adidas. I love Jordans but these 10s are trash if we're talking about comfort. It's OK to admit that and it doesn't make you any less of a fan of Jordan Brand. If that's what you want then cool, but don't act like it's not a valid complaint...

I wear them to the gym literally every day I go so 3-4 times a week. I have them on right now and they still feel like bricks. My red and white 10s are over a decade old and feel 100x better than these.

Shoe looks good. I'm not complaining about that. If I'm being completely honest, the cushion is just trash. It's not even high expectations at all. I just want these to feel similar to the previous retro 10s. How is that unreasonable? I didnt have to break those in.