14th Amendment #weoffthat

well, the irony isnt that the native americans didn't take a stance against the illegal immigration so, in turn, they were slaughtered
(which actually has absolutely NO CHANCE of happening now, by the way, scared whites)

the irony is in the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS denouncing the citizenship of other ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.....

got it, sport?
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by kream09

Originally Posted by AZwildcats

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by cryptikman


I really do not see anything wrong with this. My parents and I immigrated to this country, legally, when I was young. I had a greencard until I was able to take my citizenship test when I was 18. My family and I, along with millions of others before us, had to go through this legalities, why not the immigrants now?
This legislation isn't about the parents, it's about the kids. Children of the parents of illegal immigrants didn't choose to be born here. If they grew up here, went to school here, and lived their entire lives here...and are found to have been born to illegal immigrants, they should be forced to leave the country?
So by letting them and their families stay (because a baby cant raise itself) isn't that encouraging illegal immigration?
they are here, illegal immigration will never stop, but the babies stay n the parents just what sit there n reek our govenrment system benifits,
THEY GET Welfare, wic, footstamp, man yall gotta watch out for these scam artist out chea

actually, no, they don't.

anyone working under a fake SS#, their taxes are still deducted....and it all goes into one huge government pot.

likewise, to get WIC and foodstamps and welfare, you have to have a SS#.......which they have not.

this is a sweeping generalization, but most STEREOTYPICAL illegal immigrants i see here in columbus, ohio are

a.) bummy

b.) live like 12 deep

c.) work their *!%!! off

which all contribute to them being productive (imo) to our society.

they're not section 8, eating government bought lobsters and crabs, in gucci belts....

its just funny, and ironic to me that a nation of people who were born into citizenship can denounce others who are citizens in the exact same way.

having this dicussion with my uncles, who are older, and lived through civil rights and such, and i got a sense that they believe african americans paid their dues.....we earned our citizenship.....

and i feel that, to an extent, but at the end of the day, ME, PERSONALLY, i was born into this country...i didn't "do" anything to get my citizenship

so i cant sit there and look at a mexican kid who's life is exactly like mine, and tell him he's not a citizen cause his momma wasnt....that's wrong....

as far as the illegal immigration goes, they SHOULD endorse a "get registered" day...

the population isnt going anywhere....there are 10s of millions of illegal immigrants in this country (not ALL mexican, either...)

these people need to contribute to our society legally....they're already here....we arent gonna find and deport everyone...

so lets give them an incentive for becoming legal residents...ESPECIALLY if they have families here.
  
roll.gif
lol at you believing this SMH

What is so hard to understand there is legal immigration and illegal immigration. We have laws for a reason about these. My family LEGALLY immigrated in the the US. What is stopping these Mexican dudes from just going through the proper procedure like all other immigrants from the last 50 years had to deal with? Im supposed to feel sorry that they poor in Mexico? My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by kream09

Originally Posted by AZwildcats

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by cryptikman


I really do not see anything wrong with this. My parents and I immigrated to this country, legally, when I was young. I had a greencard until I was able to take my citizenship test when I was 18. My family and I, along with millions of others before us, had to go through this legalities, why not the immigrants now?
This legislation isn't about the parents, it's about the kids. Children of the parents of illegal immigrants didn't choose to be born here. If they grew up here, went to school here, and lived their entire lives here...and are found to have been born to illegal immigrants, they should be forced to leave the country?
So by letting them and their families stay (because a baby cant raise itself) isn't that encouraging illegal immigration?
they are here, illegal immigration will never stop, but the babies stay n the parents just what sit there n reek our govenrment system benifits,
THEY GET Welfare, wic, footstamp, man yall gotta watch out for these scam artist out chea

actually, no, they don't.

anyone working under a fake SS#, their taxes are still deducted....and it all goes into one huge government pot.

likewise, to get WIC and foodstamps and welfare, you have to have a SS#.......which they have not.

this is a sweeping generalization, but most STEREOTYPICAL illegal immigrants i see here in columbus, ohio are

a.) bummy

b.) live like 12 deep

c.) work their *!%!! off

which all contribute to them being productive (imo) to our society.

they're not section 8, eating government bought lobsters and crabs, in gucci belts....

its just funny, and ironic to me that a nation of people who were born into citizenship can denounce others who are citizens in the exact same way.

having this dicussion with my uncles, who are older, and lived through civil rights and such, and i got a sense that they believe african americans paid their dues.....we earned our citizenship.....

and i feel that, to an extent, but at the end of the day, ME, PERSONALLY, i was born into this country...i didn't "do" anything to get my citizenship

so i cant sit there and look at a mexican kid who's life is exactly like mine, and tell him he's not a citizen cause his momma wasnt....that's wrong....

as far as the illegal immigration goes, they SHOULD endorse a "get registered" day...

the population isnt going anywhere....there are 10s of millions of illegal immigrants in this country (not ALL mexican, either...)

these people need to contribute to our society legally....they're already here....we arent gonna find and deport everyone...

so lets give them an incentive for becoming legal residents...ESPECIALLY if they have families here.
  
roll.gif
lol at you believing this SMH

What is so hard to understand there is legal immigration and illegal immigration. We have laws for a reason about these. My family LEGALLY immigrated in the the US. What is stopping these Mexican dudes from just going through the proper procedure like all other immigrants from the last 50 years had to deal with? Im supposed to feel sorry that they poor in Mexico? My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN


well, the irony isnt that the native americans didn't take a stance against the illegal immigration so, in turn, they were slaughtered
(which actually has absolutely NO CHANCE of happening now, by the way, scared whites)

You missed the point, yet again. No one is talking about slaughtering. If you're dumb enough to think I mean there's a legitimate chance of Latin immigrants taking up arms against whites in ethnic cleansing, than you're dumber than your lack of reading comprehension skill lets on. Countries can fall without a single drop of blood. The system can not hold up the way things are going. Stop being so myopic. "Scared whites". How novel. Even though part of the problem is illegal immigration from Europeans.

When you come into a post that's six pages deep, you should read the others pages. Until then, sit at the kiddy table.
wink.gif
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN


well, the irony isnt that the native americans didn't take a stance against the illegal immigration so, in turn, they were slaughtered
(which actually has absolutely NO CHANCE of happening now, by the way, scared whites)

You missed the point, yet again. No one is talking about slaughtering. If you're dumb enough to think I mean there's a legitimate chance of Latin immigrants taking up arms against whites in ethnic cleansing, than you're dumber than your lack of reading comprehension skill lets on. Countries can fall without a single drop of blood. The system can not hold up the way things are going. Stop being so myopic. "Scared whites". How novel. Even though part of the problem is illegal immigration from Europeans.

When you come into a post that's six pages deep, you should read the others pages. Until then, sit at the kiddy table.
wink.gif
 
Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!
 
Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!
 
yawn.

yall don't deserve my brain power.

this dude asking why mexican children born in the US can't just legally apply for citizenship...or why families who have been here longer than his legally immigrated family has, 3 generations deep cant just show up at an office and legally immigrate like everyone else....

and then i got this other dude who quoted me, and made a huge not funny joke about how native americans are dead, not laughing at the irony, telling me i missed his point.

look, if you don't give them incentive to come forward, you will never rid the country of illegal immigrants...no matter how many racist/prejudiced laws are passed and attempted to be enforced...
 
yawn.

yall don't deserve my brain power.

this dude asking why mexican children born in the US can't just legally apply for citizenship...or why families who have been here longer than his legally immigrated family has, 3 generations deep cant just show up at an office and legally immigrate like everyone else....

and then i got this other dude who quoted me, and made a huge not funny joke about how native americans are dead, not laughing at the irony, telling me i missed his point.

look, if you don't give them incentive to come forward, you will never rid the country of illegal immigrants...no matter how many racist/prejudiced laws are passed and attempted to be enforced...
 
I see what eNPHAN is saying and it makes total sense. Some people are in it for the argument, others are in it for the clarification of the events going on today. I choose the latter, how can the US just boot people out knowing damn well they didn't found this country in a peaceful, coexistent manner? I want that question answered please. Furthermore, was the DREAM Act about illegal immigrants going to into college regardless of their status? I have a friend who is here but cannot go to college, smart man who just wants to do right... This whole situation is both confusing and sad.
 
I see what eNPHAN is saying and it makes total sense. Some people are in it for the argument, others are in it for the clarification of the events going on today. I choose the latter, how can the US just boot people out knowing damn well they didn't found this country in a peaceful, coexistent manner? I want that question answered please. Furthermore, was the DREAM Act about illegal immigrants going to into college regardless of their status? I have a friend who is here but cannot go to college, smart man who just wants to do right... This whole situation is both confusing and sad.
 
Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

im sure you and your fam coulda risked your lives swimming in on a raft just like them and got some of that US-latino-immigration love...

eyes.gif


also, why would a great-grandmother who has been here since 1976 legally immigrate now? she has three generations of american citizens in her family......shes about to die.....whats her incentive? she's already lived here as a second tier citizen since 76, took 3 dollar an hour jobs to feed her family, never been able to call the police or an ambulance......why come forward now? so she can pay taxes?

laugh.gif


you guys have some great ideas to entice illegal immigrants to come forward!

also, budwiser, i assume you were born a citizen.....im also going to assume you're not first generation american...

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."

eyes.gif


once again, america shows it's selfish, racist nature....and no, thats not hyperbole...

the HAVES are trying to deny the HAVE NOTS the same access they had and benefited from.....

they sit in their position of privilege, and try to deny the have nots the same access that put them in a position of privilege.....


oh, so after 400 years of white illegal immigration and achor children citizenship.........NOW we gotta change that law, cause i mean, these people are horrible human beings...i mean, you see all that melanin?

( and don't get it twisted, i know illegal immigration is an issue america needs to deal with, especially with the financial situation its in, HOWEVER, unconstitutional race profiling, repealing amendments for "anchor babies" and trying to deport 35+ million immigrants is scared white people *+#$...straight up)
 
Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

im sure you and your fam coulda risked your lives swimming in on a raft just like them and got some of that US-latino-immigration love...

eyes.gif


also, why would a great-grandmother who has been here since 1976 legally immigrate now? she has three generations of american citizens in her family......shes about to die.....whats her incentive? she's already lived here as a second tier citizen since 76, took 3 dollar an hour jobs to feed her family, never been able to call the police or an ambulance......why come forward now? so she can pay taxes?

laugh.gif


you guys have some great ideas to entice illegal immigrants to come forward!

also, budwiser, i assume you were born a citizen.....im also going to assume you're not first generation american...

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."

eyes.gif


once again, america shows it's selfish, racist nature....and no, thats not hyperbole...

the HAVES are trying to deny the HAVE NOTS the same access they had and benefited from.....

they sit in their position of privilege, and try to deny the have nots the same access that put them in a position of privilege.....


oh, so after 400 years of white illegal immigration and achor children citizenship.........NOW we gotta change that law, cause i mean, these people are horrible human beings...i mean, you see all that melanin?

( and don't get it twisted, i know illegal immigration is an issue america needs to deal with, especially with the financial situation its in, HOWEVER, unconstitutional race profiling, repealing amendments for "anchor babies" and trying to deport 35+ million immigrants is scared white people *+#$...straight up)
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."
To your first point: They can stay after a visa has expired. It happens all the time. Why would you bring that up?

Cliched argument is cliched. I haven't seen anybody worth listening to suggest that the United States seriously try to deport every illegal immigrant. You can go easy on the faux-Gestapo allusions because nobody is suggesting that. If the Left wants to be like Europe so much, why don't we start by taking a hardline on immigration.

You keep suggesting this is a white fear, but blacks will be left in the dust, both politically and economically, if illegal immigration is not addressed.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."
To your first point: They can stay after a visa has expired. It happens all the time. Why would you bring that up?

Cliched argument is cliched. I haven't seen anybody worth listening to suggest that the United States seriously try to deport every illegal immigrant. You can go easy on the faux-Gestapo allusions because nobody is suggesting that. If the Left wants to be like Europe so much, why don't we start by taking a hardline on immigration.

You keep suggesting this is a white fear, but blacks will be left in the dust, both politically and economically, if illegal immigration is not addressed.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

im sure you and your fam coulda risked your lives swimming in on a raft just like them and got some of that US-latino-immigration love...

eyes.gif


also, why would a great-grandmother who has been here since 1976 legally immigrate now? she has three generations of american citizens in her family......shes about to die.....whats her incentive? she's already lived here as a second tier citizen since 76, took 3 dollar an hour jobs to feed her family, never been able to call the police or an ambulance......why come forward now? so she can pay taxes?

laugh.gif


you guys have some great ideas to entice illegal immigrants to come forward!

also, budwiser, i assume you were born a citizen.....im also going to assume you're not first generation american...

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."

eyes.gif


once again, america shows it's selfish, racist nature....and no, thats not hyperbole...

the HAVES are trying to deny the HAVE NOTS the same access they had and benefited from.....

they sit in their position of privilege, and try to deny the have nots the same access that put them in a position of privilege.....


oh, so after 400 years of white illegal immigration and achor children citizenship.........NOW we gotta change that law, cause i mean, these people are horrible human beings...i mean, you see all that melanin?

( and don't get it twisted, i know illegal immigration is an issue america needs to deal with, especially with the financial situation its in, HOWEVER, unconstitutional race profiling, repealing amendments for "anchor babies" and trying to deport 35+ million immigrants is scared white people *+#$...straight up)


they speak from a "place of privilige." and they most definitely wont give it up.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by Budweiser

Originally Posted by usainboltisfast

My family was poor in Jamaica and we waited for immigration. American always trying to captain-save-a-immigrant for spanish folks.

But but but - IT'S DIFFICULT!


but but but

i didnt think you could boarder hop from jamaica, tho....(see, you required a plane to enter our country...therefore, you required paperwork...)

im sure you and your fam coulda risked your lives swimming in on a raft just like them and got some of that US-latino-immigration love...

eyes.gif


also, why would a great-grandmother who has been here since 1976 legally immigrate now? she has three generations of american citizens in her family......shes about to die.....whats her incentive? she's already lived here as a second tier citizen since 76, took 3 dollar an hour jobs to feed her family, never been able to call the police or an ambulance......why come forward now? so she can pay taxes?

laugh.gif


you guys have some great ideas to entice illegal immigrants to come forward!

also, budwiser, i assume you were born a citizen.....im also going to assume you're not first generation american...

so what gives YOU the right to be an american citizen because you were born here, yet, deny those rights to juan, who was also born here, just because his mom wasnt?

what gives YOU, PERSONALLY, that right? to point your finger at the children of  "those" illegal immigrants, and say "you arent american, you need to apply for citizenship.....yeah, you were born here, just like me, the only reason im even a citizen, but, see, my mom was also born here, and yours wasnt, so just man up and do it the right way....."

eyes.gif


once again, america shows it's selfish, racist nature....and no, thats not hyperbole...

the HAVES are trying to deny the HAVE NOTS the same access they had and benefited from.....

they sit in their position of privilege, and try to deny the have nots the same access that put them in a position of privilege.....


oh, so after 400 years of white illegal immigration and achor children citizenship.........NOW we gotta change that law, cause i mean, these people are horrible human beings...i mean, you see all that melanin?

( and don't get it twisted, i know illegal immigration is an issue america needs to deal with, especially with the financial situation its in, HOWEVER, unconstitutional race profiling, repealing amendments for "anchor babies" and trying to deport 35+ million immigrants is scared white people *+#$...straight up)


they speak from a "place of privilige." and they most definitely wont give it up.
 
Originally Posted by Budweiser


You keep suggesting this is a white fear, but blacks will be left in the dust, both politically and economically, if illegal immigration is not addressed.
hows that? as if the other factors that go into *%*#+%*$ on black people in this country werent enough, now, granting citizenship to 35 million illegals is going to hurt black people more?

eyes.gif


THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE....FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY OPERATE LIKE CITIZENS.....

we just don't tax them....nor provide them with public service....

they contribute to the economy.....they obviously work SOMEHOW....

give them the opportunity to go to college/trade school

give them the opportunity to defend the country

give them the opportunity to be recognized as a person in this country

why? cause you have that same priviledge...

now, i agree, if criminal records are pulled....or if you not about your business here, all unemployed, etc.....those guys can get the boot....

but anchor babies, families that have been here for decades, multiple generations of AMERICAN children born, etc.....those people are americans....i don't care what law says what...or who thinks they deserve to be an american or not....

but i do wish they would stop with all this bilingual $%$%.....ive been to mexico....customs didn't cater to my non-spanish speaking teenage self.....so stop with the "press 1 for english, 2 por espanol" malarkey




  
 
Originally Posted by Budweiser


You keep suggesting this is a white fear, but blacks will be left in the dust, both politically and economically, if illegal immigration is not addressed.
hows that? as if the other factors that go into *%*#+%*$ on black people in this country werent enough, now, granting citizenship to 35 million illegals is going to hurt black people more?

eyes.gif


THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE....FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY OPERATE LIKE CITIZENS.....

we just don't tax them....nor provide them with public service....

they contribute to the economy.....they obviously work SOMEHOW....

give them the opportunity to go to college/trade school

give them the opportunity to defend the country

give them the opportunity to be recognized as a person in this country

why? cause you have that same priviledge...

now, i agree, if criminal records are pulled....or if you not about your business here, all unemployed, etc.....those guys can get the boot....

but anchor babies, families that have been here for decades, multiple generations of AMERICAN children born, etc.....those people are americans....i don't care what law says what...or who thinks they deserve to be an american or not....

but i do wish they would stop with all this bilingual $%$%.....ive been to mexico....customs didn't cater to my non-spanish speaking teenage self.....so stop with the "press 1 for english, 2 por espanol" malarkey




  
 
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