20 FSU players to be Suspended for Bowl Game

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[h1]Source: Multiple suspensions likely for Music City Bowl, plus 3 games in 2008[/h1]
By Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com
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Updated: December 18, 2007, 10:48 AM ET

As many as 20 Florida State football players will be suspended from playing against Kentucky in the Dec. 31 Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, as well as the first three games of the 2008 season, for their roles in an alleged cheating scandal involving an Internet-based course, a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning.

Florida State officials are expected to announce the results of the investigation this week. The source said university officials determined Monday night the exact number of football players who will be suspended. The university isn't expected to immediately reveal the identities of the student-athletes involved in the alleged cheating.

"If the players fight the suspensions, they'll risk losing all of their eligibility," a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning.

The source said student-athletes in several other sports also were implicated in the cheating scandal.

The investigation already has led to the resignations of two academic assistance employees who worked with FSU student-athletes. The school revealed in September that as many as 23 student-athletes were given answers before taking tests over the Internet.

Further investigations revealed additional student-athletes were involved in the cheating, according to the source.

The school's investigation found that a tutor gave students answers while they were taking tests and filled in answers on quizzes and typed papers for students.

Florida State president T.K. Wetherell, a former Seminoles football player, reported the initial findings in a letter to the NCAA in September.

Wetherell ordered an investigation by the university's Office of Audit Services in May after receiving information an athletics department tutor had directed one athlete to take an online quiz for another athlete and then provided the answers.

The tutor implicated in the audit told investigators he had been providing students with answers for the test since the fall of 2006, according to a university report.

The school announced in October that athletics director Dave Hart Jr. will resign Dec. 31. Wetherell appointed State Rep. William "Bill" Proctor interim athletics director. Proctor also is a former FSU football player.

The school announced last week that longtime football coach Bobby Bowden had agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2008 season that will pay him at least $1.98 million. Bowden, who is in his 32nd season at the school, is major college football's all-time winningest coach with 373 career victories.

Florida State also designated offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher as Bowden's eventual successor. Fisher's new contract calls for him to replace Bowden by the end of the 2010 season. If Fisher isn't named FSU's new coach by then, the school's booster organization would owe him $2.5 million. Under the terms of the new contract, Fisher would owe Seminoles boosters $2.5 million if he leaves the school before the end of the 2010 season.

The Seminoles struggled for the fourth consecutive season in 2007, finishing 7-5 overall, 4-4 in ACC play. It is the fourth consecutive season they failed to win 10 games, after winning at least 10 games in 14 consecutive seasons, from 1987 to 2000.
 
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I'm shocked this would happen.

I think Steve Spurrier was runnin the site just to toy with them.
 
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Thats nothing, FSU gets a slap on the wrist while Minnesota had entireseasons (and a Final Four) vacated for their "academic scandal" along with coaches being fired
 
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Thats nothing, FSU gets a slap on the wrist while Minnesota had entire seasons (and a Final Four) vacated for their "academic scandal" along with coaches being fired
Wasnt Clem in the middle of the scandal?
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Wasnt Clem in the middle of the scandal?
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Ya
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And he still denies everything. My buddies whoplayed at Minn around those years told me Clem had them spending more time in the weightroom than in class
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In all seriousness I would never compare Minnesota to Florida State, but their situations are earily similar with what supposedly went down. And They hadalmost an entire decade wiped off the record books. They had million dollar fines, they had players and coaches booted out of school

My point here is that FSU very well could have gotten off VERY easy, and it's all politics
 
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I was expecting somewhere around 5 players would be suspended but 20?!?! I wonder how the NCAA is going to handle this.
 
Damn, 20?!?!?
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I'm dying to see how ESPN and other major media outlets cover this...I'd bet a pretty penny it's nowhere near the level of scrutiny it would be ifit happened at Miami. Funny thing is, that FSU has just as many players have run-ins with the law and such, yet for whatever reason never seems to get peggedwith the "Thug (FS)U"-type labels.
 
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RyGuy, there's this older cat I hoop with over the summers, Mark Jones. He played SF under Clem at Minny before he transfered to UCF cuz his grades wasbeing questioned and Sam Jacobs was KILLING out there.


this is FSU ++!# is def. lack of institutional control.

20 is too big a number for zero reprecussions.

cut in schollys maybe? bowl sanctions?
its not like this is FSU's first brush with the NCAA compliance committee.
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Yeah....I said that in the College Football thread.....

I think D'Vontrey Richardson is one of them and he is transferring....

I read that I was gonna involve like 7 starters as well...

My Criminoles
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Scout team is about to get STUPID burn this next game.....N's gon be asked to burn their Redshirt...
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And the first 3 games....I hope we got 3 cupcakes....But, we prolly won't

I wanna see some names.....Insider columnists have said that they have heard names, but they can't release them until there is some sort ofconfirmation....

As I said before, once practice gets fully underway, we will be able to see who is in trouble and who isn't.....Cause dudes from Scout team gonna beworking with the 2's and the dudes from the 2's are gonna be working w/ the ones....

Also, people have been saying that some of them are people who RS this year...

Damn, 20?!?!?
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I'm dying to see how ESPN and other major media outlets cover this...I'd bet a pretty penny it's nowhere near the level of scrutiny it would be if it happened at Miami. Funny thing is, that FSU has just as many players have run-ins with the law and such, yet for whatever reason never seems to get pegged with the "Thug (FS)U"-type labels.

No way in hell we come out of this unscathed.....They are gonna kill us in the media....20 Players??? That's too big of a number to be involed....

THe thing about this whole situation is.....We did a self imposed investigation into this whole issue over the summer and in the beginning of the footballyear....and Joslin Shaw and Kevin McNeil were suspended....I thought this was the end of it esp. since FSU did the investigation into itself trying to avoidNCAA sanctions as much as possible...However, it seems as if the problem is biger than originally thought...

As long as we don't get the 'Death Penalty' like SMU did, then we will be able to recover....

But it is asinine to beleive that FSU isn't gonna get backlash from this....Coutting schollies is the LAST thing we need right now as we are trying toreload....
The school's investigation found that a tutor gave students answers while they were taking tests and filled in answers on quizzes and typed papers for students.

The tutor implicated in the audit told investigators he had been providing students with answers for the test since the fall of 2006, according to a university report.

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So that's, three semester worth of players...4-5 if you include summer sessions....I don't know how FSU does its summer school, so Iassume its like my school did it....So that means players who had classes in Fall '06, Spring '07, Summer Session 1, Summer Session 2, Fall '07
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DAMN!, THIS WILL SET YOU BOYS BACK ANOTHER 3-4 YEARS, MIAMI WILL BE OK BEFORE YA'LL AT THIS PACE
 
SMH at this because the ones hurt by this are the players that will never play pro football.
 
They should be kicked out of school. Why do people let cheaters of this magnitude stay enrolled?
 
One of the worst downfalls I have ever seen from a program of such prestige, what went wrong?
 
Justin Mincey, Neefy moffett, Paul Griffen, Guion, Ball, Dekota Watson, Derek Nicholson, Geno Hayes, Toddrick Verdell, Rodney Gallon


apparently Geno had the answers to a test and breezed through it real quickly and the professor thought something fishy was going on...
 
apparently Geno had the answers to a test and breezed through it real quickly and the professor thought something fishy was going on...


Prolly walked to turn in the exam with his chest puffin' out like he's actually doin' it...
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...I will almost gurantee he got strange looksfrom just about everyone in the class...
 
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