2010 Official Boxing Thread: Soto/Antillon, 2010 Fight of the Year.

I just saiod the same thing on twitter
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dude was a black israelite just a cple weeks ago
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Please stop mentioning Zab on this thread already. Por favor. He has let me down too many times
 
I thought Zab lost he was too cautious throughout the fight, but its understandable since Lucas has a great KO percentage.
 
why?
cus he won a tough fight vs an undefeated fighter who was 25-0 with like 25 kos.

relax with your hate man.

I thought Zab won, he put enough rounds in the bank early to off set him getting blasted late.


Zab needs to get away from his Dad man, I thought he made the switch last yr? I never noticed til talkin last nite wit my boy that Zab circles the ring like an orthodox fighter instead of towards his strong left hand...
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basic @+%# man
 
Judah could've knocked dude out...Mike still wouldn't give him props.

First...I never, NEVER, NEVER want to see Allan Green on my television again...dude is still livin' off of the Jaidon KO. You're not a prospect anymore...you're 31 years old.
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He needs to jump on the Yellow brick road and ask the Wizard for some heart.

As said...Zab won the fight. Dude was on cruise control for the 1st 8 rounds...you've got to give him credit, ya'll..."old" Zab wouldn't have finished that fight, and we all know that.

It's pretty late in his career for that to happen, but as Gunna said...Yoel needs to go. @+% kind of advice is "Yo Zab, you gotta BOOM, BOOM, BANG...1,2,3...box" Zab was always too loyal to his father, and that was one of the reasons for his downfall.

I think Zab might've over trained a bit and put way too much pressure on himself to perform. My biggest problem with him is that it seems like he relies so much on counter punching that he tends to get away from boxing and leading with his jab.
 
judah did nothing last night to show me he is a different fighter and ready to be a star again.

same ol zab. once he got hit with a big shot he stop throwing and was getting hit left and right. he fought a avg fighter with power and got lucky he held on to win.

again he fights any of the elites at 140 or moves back to 147 to fight anyone he is getting beat down.
 
Originally Posted by CAFinest23

What happened in the Allan Green fight?
KO in the 8th round by Glen Johnson.

I wasn't impressed with Judah tonight. I had him losing the fight 114-113. He didn't throw many power punches & remained very cautious throughout the whole fight. He used his jab effectively but it was more so to keep Lucas at bay. I would have liked to see Judah bring the fight to Lucas.
 
Good thing Green didn't by decision win or we'd be getting Ward-Green II 
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Saturday at Las Vegas
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Featherweight
Juan Manuel Lopez TKO8 Rafael Marquez

Retains a featherweight title​
[/td][/tr][tr][td]Records: Lopez, 30-0, 27 KOs; Marquez, 39-6, 35 KOs
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Rafael's remark: From the day the fight was made, anyone who knew anything about boxing predicted that this would be a dandy. On paper, it was a can't-miss fight and it turned out just about as good as we all had hoped. Even Lopez himself had this to say about his expectations for the Showtime fight: "As long as it lasts, it's going to be a war." It was, as Lopez and Marquez threw down in the tradition of so many great Puerto Rico versus Mexico rivalry fights. They did the rivalry proud with an all-out action fight that featured numerous exciting exchanges, although it probably falls a tad short of being the fight of the year, so far, because Lopez basically dominated the fight.





Lopez, the 27-year-old Puerto Rican star and former junior featherweight titlist, was making the second defense of his featherweight belt against the best opponent he had ever faced. Mexico's Marquez, 35, has been a great fighter for years. Juan Manuel Marquez's little brother is the former bantamweight and junior featherweight champ and is revered for his epic four-fight series with Israel Vazquez, which he evened at 2-2 with a third-round knockout in May. That set the stage for the showdown with Lopez, who sent Marquez reeling in the third round, which was filled with exciting two-way action. Marquez rebounded to badly rock Lopez in the fourth round, but Lopez caught a break when, after multiple warnings from referee Tony Weeks for pushing down Marquez's head, Weeks docked him a point. The break in the action to deduct the point gave Lopez some much-needed time to recover from Marquez's onslaught. Lopez would hurt Marquez in the seventh and, finally, after the eighth round, Marquez surprisingly retired on his stool, citing a right shoulder injury he said he suffered in the third round.





The disappointing ending aside, it was a fierce fight and worth the wait after it had been postponed from September because Marquez had suffered a thumb injury when he accidentally slammed it in a car door. Marquez said he would like a rematch and the Lopez camp seemed open to it, although Lopez is next expected to fight in Puerto Rico in the first quarter of 2011. After that, Top Rank's Bob Arum said he will finally match Lopez and his other featherweight titlist, Cuban sensation Yuriorkis Gamboa. That could happen in June or perhaps early fall. Whenever and whomever they fight, Lopez and Marquez nearly always deliver drama and excitement.




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Super Six World Boxing Classic, Group Stage 3

Super middleweight
Glen Johnson KO8 Allan Green
[tr][td]Records: Johnson, 51-14-2, 35 KOs; Green, 29-3, 20 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Is there anyone in boxing more universally respected by the fans, media and folks in the industry than Johnson? He's a class act and a helluva fighter who has never ducked anyone and often been on the wrong side of bad decisions in his opponent's hometown. So it's great to see him be rewarded with the unexpected invitation to Showtime's Super Six World Boxing Classic following the exit of Mikkel Kessler, who dropped out in late August claiming an eye injury. Johnson took the offer even though he had not fought at super middleweight in literally a decade. He had been fighting at light heavyweight, where he is the former champion and was coming off a highly competitive and physical decision loss to titlist Tavoris Cloud in August. But three months later, Johnson was back in the ring and in great shape. At 41, it seemed risky to expect him to make the weight after so many years as a light heavyweight, but Johnson, of Miami, is a tireless worker and not only made the weight, but looked strong. And he fought like a man years younger than he is, outworking and outpunching the typically disappointing Green, 31, of Tulsa, Okla. Johnson worked the body to wear Green down. He hurt him badly with a flurry of shots seconds before the end of the third round and Green staggered back to his corner. He continually ripped Green, his onetime sparring partner and good friend, with uppercuts and a right hand that couldn't miss. Green was in trouble again at the end of the sixth round. He also complained to referee Robert Byrd about being hit behind the head, but he was leaning down and basically into the punches, so it was his own fault. That bad habit cost him dearly when he leaned into a right hand early in the eighth round. Johnson connected with it, and a follow-up right hand as Green was going down. Green was talking to Byrd as he tried to make it to his feet, but he did not make it in time and was counted at 36 seconds.





Great victory for Johnson, who earned three points and clinched the final spot in the Super Six semifinals, where he will meet either Arthur Abraham or Carl Froch, depending on the outcome of their Group Stage 3 fight on Nov. 27. For Green, who was incredibly ahead 67-66 on two scorecards while Johnson led 68-65 on the third, it's probably the end of the road for him appearing in major television fights. He looked horrible in a shutout loss to Andre Ward in his previous Super Six fight and now this knockout. For all the talk he has done, he's never once come close to backing it up when it really counted.




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Junior welterweight
Zab Judah W12 Lucas Matthysse

Title eliminator
Scores: 114-113 (twice) Judah, 114-113 Matthysse​
[/td][/tr][tr][td]Records: Judah, 40-6, 27 KOs; Matthysse, 27-1, 25 KOs
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Rafael's remark: When this fight was made, it did not get a ton of attention, but there were a lot of folks who thought the HBO "Boxing After Dark" main event had a chance to be a pretty good fight. Well, you can't win 'em all. For about eight rounds, this was a terrible fight as Judah jabbed and darted around Matthysse, who could not land anything solidly. Judah was outboxing him with ease and using his speed while the crowd booed.





Judah, 33, the former undisputed welterweight champ and two-time junior welterweight titlist from New York, had returned to the 140-pound weight class in July with the aim to make a splash again in a loaded division. Judah will probably get one of the big fights in the division (which boasts Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley Jr., Amir Khan, Marcos Maidana and Victor Ortiz) at some point, but the notion that he could be a force in his old division seems unlikely after this performance. Granted, Judah won the fight, but it was very close and he spent the last quarter of the match on the defensive and in big trouble as Argentina's power-punching Matthysse, 28, previously untested against a quality opponent, stalked him and chased him down. Matthysse's problem, however, was that he started too late. Matthysse, who repeatedly head butted Judah and was also warned for holding and hitting, had given up so many early rounds that he was in a deep hole that he could not escape. So even though he was in total control in the late rounds, including scoring a 10th-round knockdown, he couldn't overtake Judah's lead on two scorecards. Remember, boxing is scored round by round, not by giving a win to the guy who appeared to win at the end of the fight. This was a fair decision, despite the complaints from Matthysse and his handlers, but he probably made a lot of fans with his aggressive style. It wouldn't be a surprise to see Matthysse back on HBO against one of the quality fighters in the division. Judah, who bled from a cut over his left eye because of an eighth-round head butt, earned a fight with Kaizer Mabuza of South Africa for a belt recently stripped from Alexander. That fight is very likely next for Judah. But after that, Judah against one of the big names is certainly possible, even if he did not make the splash he had hoped for against Matthysse.
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Lightweight
Robert Guerrero W10 Vicente Escobedo

Scores: 100-88, 98-90, 96-92​
[tr][td]Records: Guerrero, 28-1-1, 18 KOs; Escobedo, 22-3, 14 KOs
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Rafael's remark: When Guerrero faced veteran former lightweight and junior lightweight champ Joel Casamayor in July, he dominated to win a 10-round decision, but was not impressive. He got dropped in the 10th round for the first knockdown of his career and won the messy fight. But who ever looks good against Casamayor? And don't forget that Guerrero fought the catch weight bout at 138 pounds, the heaviest of his career. What a difference an opponent can make, though. In Escobedo, his buddy from the amateur days (whom he beat in two of their three unpaid bouts), Guerrero looked as sharp and as strong as he has in ages. He looked very good winning a lopsided decision. Although Guerrero, 27, of Gilroy, Calif., won handily, it was an entertaining fight to watch. Escobedo bled from the first round on because of a cut on his scalp caused by an accidental head butt and Guerrero dropped him twice, in the third and sixth rounds. But Escobedo, of Woodlawn, Calif., showed a lot of heart. The 2004 U.S. Olympian got up and kept trying to knock Guerrero out. He was hopelessly behind, but let's give him credit for his effort for doing his part to make this a fun fight. Guerrero positioned himself for a possible title shot against the winner of the Nov. 27 fight between lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez and interim titlist Michael Katsidis. Either of those matches would be nice fights, although it sort of seems unlikely that Marquez would take that fight since it's not the big fight he'll be looking for. Guerrero might wind up fighting for a vacant belt instead if Marquez beats Katsidis and moves up to junior welterweight. Whatever happens, Guerrero is at the top of his game and ready for another title opportunity. Escobedo, who suffered the defeat on his 29th birthday, surprised everyone when he dropped down to one knee in the ring after the decision was announced and proposed to his girlfriend, Valerie Zarate. She said yes. So he lost the fight, but he got the girl. Good for him.
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Welterweight
Sadam Ali TKO2 Gary Bergeron

[tr][td]Records: Ali, 10-0, 6 KOs; Bergeron, 12-6, 7 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Ali, of Brooklyn, is just 22 and looks like a quality prospect. He was a 2008 U.S. Olympian and the first Arab-American boxer to go to the Olympics. As an amateur, he was a lightweight. As a pro, he has grown into a solid-looking welterweight with good speed and offensive ability. He abused poor Bergeron, who was overmatched from the opening bell in what was an utter mismatch. It's hard to imagine how bad the 12 stiffs that Bergeron, 30, of New Orleans, beat. But Ali did what he was supposed to, which was to annihilate him. Ali punished throughout the first round, including scoring a knockdown. The massacre continued in the second with another knockout and a ton of other flush shots until a brutal three-punch combination finally forced the end of the fight. The stat of the night: Ali landed 70 punches in less than two full rounds. Bergeron landed eight.
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Lightweight
Adrien Broner TKO1 Ilido Julio

[tr][td]Records: Broner, 18-0, 15 KOs; Julio, 40-20-1, 35 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Cincinnati's Broner is just 21 and already has 18 pro fights under his belt after turning pro in 2008. He's one of Golden Boy's best prospects and has dazzling speed, although he shows a little hot dog in the ring at times, which might get him in trouble. But he was poised and professional against 39-year-old Julio, a native of Colombia living in Miami fighting way above flyweight, where he was at his best years ago. He was cannon fodder for Broner, who needed just 94 seconds to blast him out without ever taking any real shot in return. He rocked Julio with the first solid shot of the fight and never let up. He scored one knockdown with a fast left-right combination and then teed off on him until the fight was stopped. As Broner said afterward, he doesn't get paid for overtime. This kid could move quickly in 2011.
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Middleweight
Bastie Samir TKO1 Damion Reed

[tr][td]Records: Samir, 6-0, 6 KOs; Reed, 2-4, 1 KO
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Rafael's remark: Samir, 24, of Ghana, now lives in Las Vegas and looks like a very exciting prospect with good power and an aggressive, fan-friendly style. He represented his country in the 2008 Olympics and is now with Golden Boy, which has given him three fights since August after he ended a 20-month layoff caused by a visa problem that had him stuck in Ghana and unable to fight. Now he's back in America and kicking rear against the usual suspects. He crushed Reed, 19, of Reidsville, N.C., dropping him four times (mainly with a tremendous body attack) until the beatdown was halted with 13 seconds left in the opening round. Samir is going to be a television-friendly fighter.
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Junior flyweight
Gilberto Keb Baas W12 Omar Niño

Wins a junior flyweight title
Scores: 116-110, 115-111, 113-113​
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Rafael's remark: Upset city! Keb Baas is the epitome of a journeyman. He's fought numerous top fighters in the lower weight classes and regularly lost, including flyweight title bout defeats to Eric Morel in 2000 and Pongsaklek Wonjongkam in 2006. However, way back in 1998, he stopped Niño in the fifth round when Niño was a 14-0 prospect. Niño was supposed to steamroll him in the rematch, but Keb Bass, 33, won a 108-pound belt in his hometown against his Mexican countryman. He dropped Niño, 34, in the first and eighth rounds en route to his majority decision win. Niño, a two-time titlist, was making the second defense of his second title reign, undoubtedly facing Keb Baas because his handlers thought he would be easy pickings. Guess again. Keb Bass extended his unbeaten string to seven fights (6-0-1), the best stretch of his career, with the victory, which is surely a candidate for upset of the year.




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Super middleweight
Edwin Rodriguez TKO9 James McGirt Jr.

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Rafael's remark: Rodriguez, 25, of Worcester, Mass., is an outstanding prospect being moved along nicely by promoter Lou DiBella and manager Larry Army. McGirt, the son of former two-time titleholder James "Buddy" McGirt Sr., was certainly the most notable opponent of his career and Rodriguez passed the test nicely in his first main event on Showtime's "ShoBox: The New Generation," which featured three super middleweight fights. That comes as no surprise considering the network's heavy involvement in the division with the Super Six World Boxing Classic. Rodriguez has a chance to be near the top of the next wave of 168-pound contenders. He looked good against McGirt, who had hoped to win and knock off one of DiBella's best prospects because he is still stung by DiBella releasing him from a promotional contract. Rodriguez showed poise and maturity as he took his time to break McGirt down. McGirt had little to keep Rodriguez off of him. As McGirt began to tire, Rodriguez hammered him during the seventh round, giving him a bloody nose and causing his father to give it to him straight in the corner after the seventh round -- that he was not going to let him keep taking the kind of unanswered blows he was taking. Rodriguez continued to dish out punishment in the eighth round and ninth until referee Mark Nelson finally stepped in and called it off at 1 minute, 57 seconds of the ninth round with McGirt absorbing a lot of punishment. McGirt Jr., 27, of Vero Beach, Fla., saw his three-fight winning streak end.




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Super middleweight
Aaron Pryor Jr. W8 Dyah Davis

Scores: 79-73 (twice), 78-74​
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Rafael's remark: Pryor, 32, is the son of all-time great junior welterweight champion and Hall of Famer Aaron Pryor Sr. Davis, 29, is the son of Howard Davis Jr., the 1976 U.S. Olympic gold medalist. Neither can be called a serious prospect, but there was still some historical interest in the fight because it was Davis Jr. who defeated Pryor Sr. twice in the span of a month 34 years ago at 132 pounds to earn the spot on the Olympic team. Davis went on to win the gold, but never a pro world title in three tries. Pryor didn't make the Olympic team, as he was favored to do, but became a legend. So with Cincinnati's Pryor Jr. outpointing Davis, the family gets a small dose of revenge all these years later. Pryor, with his father in his corner for the first time, is 6-foot-4 and used his height advantage, a solid right hand and a long jab to keep the 6-1 Davis (whose father was ringside) at bay for most of the fight. He also rocked Davis and opened a cut over his left eye with a series of shots in the sixth round, which Davis was lucky to survive. Hard to see Pryor Jr. going too far, but with his name and size, you gotta figure he'll get some kind of opportunity.
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Super middleweight
Marcus Johnson TKO3 Kevin Engel

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Rafael's remark: Houston's Johnson, 24, was a superb amateur, just missing out on the 2004 U.S. Olympic team because he lost to Andre Ward in the trials. As a pro, he's one of the top prospects in the land after moving a bit slowly during his days with promoter Don King. Lou DiBella, who has had him for the past year, is trying to help him make up for lost time, but Johnson hasn't exactly helped himself. This fight was only Johnson's second of the year because of a six-month suspension he was handed after a positive drug test following a fight in April. Hopefully, Johnson learned his lesson because he has a lot of potential. He looked very good taking out St. Louis' Engel, 30, a tough brawler with a big heart who makes fun television fights. But he was no match for Johnson. He hammered Engel for most of the fight and dropped him in the third round. There were several points where the fight could have been stopped, but referee Mark Nelson gave Engel every benefit of the doubt until pulling the plug between the third and fourth rounds.





Also on the card: Miami welterweight Antwun Smith (19-2, 11 KOs), 23, bounced back from a ninth-round TKO upset loss to Lanardo Tyner in July to stop journeyman Martinus Clay (13-27-4, 5 KOs) in the fifth round and Las Vegas middleweight Ishe Smith (22-5, 10 KOs), 32, ended a two-fight losing streak by stopping Alexander Pacheco Quiroz (14-9-1, 12 KOs) in the second round.
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Friday at Cataño, Puerto Rico
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Welterweight
Jose Cotto TKO4 Christopher "Shaka" Henry

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Rafael's remark: Puerto Rico's Cotto, 33, is the older brother of star Miguel Cotto. He's had his ups and downs, most recently a down when hot prospect Saul "Canelo" Alvarez stopped him in the ninth round in May on the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Shane Mosley undercard in Las Vegas. Making his return in the "Solo Boxeo Tecate" main event on Telefutura -- and with his brother working in his corner -- Cotto destroyed Henry, a journeyman late replacement who took the fight on a couple of days' notice when Oscar Leon (a slightly better journeyman) of Colombia withdrew because of visa problems. Cotto had Henry, 37, of Barbados, on the defensive for most of the fight and looking for a way to simply survive. But he had no prayer of doing that. Cotto dropped him in the second round under a hail of punches and finished him at 1 minute, 39 seconds of the fourth round when referee Jose Hiram Rivera stopped the fight after Henry took a couple of right hands. They weren't big punches, but Henry had been getting strafed throughout the fight and Rivera saw no point to allow the bout to continue. Hard to argue as Henry lost his second straight fight and sixth of his past seven.






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Friday at Manila
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Flyweight
Brian Viloria TKO7 Liempetch Sor Veerapol
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Rafael's remark: Viloria, 29, of Hawaii, was a 2000 U.S. Olympian but his family is Filipino and he has found a home fighting in the Philippines. This was his third fight in a row there and fourth in his last five bouts as he dropped Thailand's Sor Veerapol, 22, in the fifth round with a body shot and dropped him twice more in the seventh round for the stoppage. Viloria, a two-time junior flyweight titlist, won for the second time in a row since losing his belt to Carlos Tamara via 12th-round knockout in January. Viloria is expected to challenge flyweight titlist Julio Cesar Miranda of Mexico for his belt in the first quarter of 2011.





Also on the card, former junior flyweight titlist Rodel Mayol (27-5-2, 21 KOs), 29, of the Philippines, stopped Thailand's Pompetch Twins Gym (14-3, 1 KOs) in the seventh round. The fight was Mayol's first since losing his belt via unanimous decision to Omar Niño in their June rematch.
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I still think that Gamboa will beat JuanMa and supposedly they may fight in July.

I don't believe any of the 24/7 stories that Manny is distracted by politics they have been saying he's distracted in almost every fight and he has done exceptionally well for being so called distracted.

My boy Mike Jones is on the undercard of the Pac/Margarito fight I'm glad he will be getting some TV exposure on a big PPV.
 
Originally Posted by Bigmike23

judah did nothing last night to show me he is a different fighter and ready to be a star again.

again he fights any of the elites at 140 or moves back to 147 to fight anyone he is getting beat down.

This. Son is washed.. Yall need to let go..

No love for my dude, Ghost?! Son is a problem!

Super Six Semis Possiblities (correct me if I'm wrong):

If Abe beats Froch or Froch KO's Abe, it'll be Ward/Johnson & Abe/Froch II.  
If Froch beats Abe by Decision, Ward/Abe & Froch/Johnson.  

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If Berto/Mosley or Berto/Cotto don't happen, I would love to see Berto/Jones. He's ready for it. Either way, he needs a title shot soon.
 
I need to see Jones fight a real Step-up fight.. I'd like to see him beat a Clottey or Collazo before he gets a shot at a belt.
 
Originally Posted by MFr3shM

I still think that Gamboa will beat JuanMa and supposedly they may fight in July.

I don't believe any of the 24/7 stories that Manny is distracted by politics they have been saying he's distracted in almost every fight and he has done exceptionally well for being so called distracted.

My boy Mike Jones is on the undercard of the Pac/Margarito fight I'm glad he will be getting some TV exposure on a big PPV.
my former coach is part of pacman's team and according to him Manny's in better shape than he was against Cotto or Clottey.  
We'll soon find out though.
 
he wasn't before... he even cheered for Oscar when they fought. but now that he's exposed to the group of stans that follow manny around, i think he's turned 'homer' as well, lol.
 
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