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yeezusdisciple
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i hope your sense of humor is not like rose
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barkley was a better rebounder and defender than melo could ever be.. he might have him on scoring but barkley>melo any day.
shoeking2101
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His career isn't even over though. He's in his prime right now. Its premature to say he can never get to Barkley status. That's why I said I disagree. I don't see why Melo can't get to that level.
lawdog1
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If you say so. But you really don't have an issues with Jim Buss? If I'm remembering correctly, it was Jim's call to go with D'Antoni over Phil. That alone is a pretty legitimate reason to wonder about him, IMO.
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Exactly. He's turning 30 in a couple months. This is his peak right now, he's not gonna get significantly better from here on out. I don't think you understand how great Barkley was from age 24-29 and I don't think you understand the gap between prime Barkley and prime Melo. It's massive.
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You wouldn't find a bigger Mitch backer than I 12-18 months ago.
Since the CP3 deal, he's fallen apart reaching-chasing.
Yes, you can put "some" onus on Jim Buss, absolutely. But I ask you......
You have a team that is in the tank this year. Suck beyond suck. And you have a team FULL of expiring deals. IE, gone in 28 games.
You now also have a chance to get under the luxury tax, as well as reset the clock on the REPEATER tax.
You can flip Pau
Or you can flip Hill and Kaman for nothing, spare parts, bag of basketballs, whatever.
You are the owner.
You tell your GM NOT to do that? To NOT save YOU money?
Oh by the way, day after the deadline Pau gets back on the court (he sat out the two weeks prior to the deadline) and Hill and Kaman are now DNP after DNP after DNP since the deadline.
I'm supposed to put that on Jim Buss? He didn't want to save his own money?
If I flip it.
You can be Mitch now. Jim Buss wants to pay Kobe. He STARTS with 48 million. STARTS!!!!
You're Mitch.
You either quit your job, or kill Jim before he can make that offer, right?
Right.
Mitch has been off his grind the minute veto came down. I don't wanna flood this place with our issues, but I am well typed in the Laker thread, you can go in there and find a ton of my complaints + backed up statements on his last couple years in there.
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Everybody around the organization says it was Jerry's call.
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People gotta stop defending Melo man.
Just accept the fact that he is who he is.
Just accept the fact that he is who he is.
Lake Shore Drive
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Dark days for the Lakers
Kobe's on his last legs and Orlando doesn't have center hitting FA soon
Dark days for the Lakers
Kobe's on his last legs and Orlando doesn't have center hitting FA soon
Vucevic
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Just saw Beverly got his nose broken against Orlando. And he didnt fall on the ground for 5 minutes, and even stayed in the game, weird
here come the Bron defenders
here come the Bron defenders
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Dawg. Bulls could be dirty next year man.
Rose - Butler - Carmelo - Gibson - Noah?
DURTY
Rose - Butler - Carmelo - Gibson - Noah?
DURTY
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lawdog1
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Even if he does come back, it's pretty naive to think he'll be anywhere close to the player he was in his MVP year.
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Just remember guys; the Lakers don't rebuild, they reload
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Mello sweepstakes Dallas
Monta
Mello
Dirk
Monta
Mello
Dirk
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you forgot to mention that the lakers are your 3rd favorite team to watchJust remember guys; the Lakers don't rebuild, they reload
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Report: LeBron to attend Ilgauskas ceremony despite Heat unhappiness
By Matt Moore | NBA writer
March 06, 2014 12:43 PM ET
Zydrunas Ilgauskas and LeBron James made several playoff runs together. (Getty)
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Forbes reports that Miami Heat star LeBron James plans to attend the Cavaliers' honoring of retired player Zydrunas Ilgauskas Saturday in Cleveland. James and Ilgauskas played together the entire time James was in Cleveland, and Ilgauskas followed James to Miami when he left in 2010.
And the implication is that the plan is about more for the Cavs than just honoring a former franchise anchor.
This isn’t a coincidence. If Ilauskas, now the Cavs’ assistant GM, invited James, the date was set last October, for this two-day break in Miami’s schedule.
This thaw was years in the making, fostered by James insiders in Cleveland passing the word that the Cavs would be on Bron’s list if he was to leave. If that looks unlikely at the moment with Bron saying recently he doesn’t see himself going anywhere, it’s championship or bust for the Heat. The team is in conservation mode after three Finals runs with Dwyane Wade’s health an ever-larger issue.
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Some days of infamy live forever. Some don’t last four years.
James’ attendance at the ceremony would be legitimate, whatever its side benefits. James and Ilgauskas are indisputably tight. With all the condemnation ringing in Bron’s ears when he left Cleveland, Z followed him to Miami three days later.
“When I came in the league as a rookie, you try to find veteran leadership, someone to grab onto as far as how to be a professional and he was that guy for me,” said James last week in Miami.
Heat officials are unhappy, but this isn’t Shane Battier. With no inclination to disappoint James, the team has kept a low profile to this point.
via Cavaliers Trying to Woo LeBron James Back--Openly.
Allow us a brief moment to reflect on the irony of the Heat being unhappy with the possibility of tampering, particularly by the Cavaliers.
If the report is accurate, and the Cavaliers are still chasing James, it's kind of, well, desperate. There was the possibility at the start of the season that the Cavs could play their way into being a legitimate possibility for James to sign there if he opts out this summer. But since then, the Cavaliers have had a disaster of a season, are still 3.5 games back of the playoffs even after trading for All-Star Luol Deng.
The odds of James seeing Cleveland as the best place for him to add to his championship total are low. So to pursue him with emotional overtures is a bit much.
But it's good that James is attending the ceremony. Ilgauskas and James were close, and James deserves to be able to congratulate his friend on the accomplishment. James should just hang out backstage, though, and the Cavs shouldn't try to bring attention to James. After all, that Cleveland crowd hasn't exactly gotten over the Decision.
By Matt Moore | NBA writer
March 06, 2014 12:43 PM ET
Zydrunas Ilgauskas and LeBron James made several playoff runs together. (Getty)
More NBA: Power Rankings | Expert Picks | Latest news, notes
Forbes reports that Miami Heat star LeBron James plans to attend the Cavaliers' honoring of retired player Zydrunas Ilgauskas Saturday in Cleveland. James and Ilgauskas played together the entire time James was in Cleveland, and Ilgauskas followed James to Miami when he left in 2010.
And the implication is that the plan is about more for the Cavs than just honoring a former franchise anchor.
This isn’t a coincidence. If Ilauskas, now the Cavs’ assistant GM, invited James, the date was set last October, for this two-day break in Miami’s schedule.
This thaw was years in the making, fostered by James insiders in Cleveland passing the word that the Cavs would be on Bron’s list if he was to leave. If that looks unlikely at the moment with Bron saying recently he doesn’t see himself going anywhere, it’s championship or bust for the Heat. The team is in conservation mode after three Finals runs with Dwyane Wade’s health an ever-larger issue.
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Some days of infamy live forever. Some don’t last four years.
James’ attendance at the ceremony would be legitimate, whatever its side benefits. James and Ilgauskas are indisputably tight. With all the condemnation ringing in Bron’s ears when he left Cleveland, Z followed him to Miami three days later.
“When I came in the league as a rookie, you try to find veteran leadership, someone to grab onto as far as how to be a professional and he was that guy for me,” said James last week in Miami.
Heat officials are unhappy, but this isn’t Shane Battier. With no inclination to disappoint James, the team has kept a low profile to this point.
via Cavaliers Trying to Woo LeBron James Back--Openly.
Allow us a brief moment to reflect on the irony of the Heat being unhappy with the possibility of tampering, particularly by the Cavaliers.
If the report is accurate, and the Cavaliers are still chasing James, it's kind of, well, desperate. There was the possibility at the start of the season that the Cavs could play their way into being a legitimate possibility for James to sign there if he opts out this summer. But since then, the Cavaliers have had a disaster of a season, are still 3.5 games back of the playoffs even after trading for All-Star Luol Deng.
The odds of James seeing Cleveland as the best place for him to add to his championship total are low. So to pursue him with emotional overtures is a bit much.
But it's good that James is attending the ceremony. Ilgauskas and James were close, and James deserves to be able to congratulate his friend on the accomplishment. James should just hang out backstage, though, and the Cavs shouldn't try to bring attention to James. After all, that Cleveland crowd hasn't exactly gotten over the Decision.
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Smh that's odd, did they help him to the back?
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In what way is he underrated? He's properly rated somewhere in the second tier of all-time power forwards (behind Duncan) with KG, Karl Malone and Dirk. At a certain point, it depends on what you value more. And he's more like 6'4".
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how are 4 of the greatest pfs ever in the second tier?
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Did we ever get a concrete height for Chuck?
I've read over the years wide ranging heights from 6'3 to 6'7
I've read over the years wide ranging heights from 6'3 to 6'7
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