2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[certifiedflyboi23]

Kenyon martin was drafted before Kwame though....

you lion

 

[blastercombo]

So hes the next lebron?

Please bro, lebron was the next miles.

 

[awwsome]

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Nash my *****, I hate it had to be him

 

[nelson999]

Wiggins/Boogie/Lance in Sacramento next season

Wiggens/Boogie/McLemore 

i actually want Parker though

 

[awwsome]

Goonball

Wiggins's Canadianness would smooth over any potential issues

Would buy league pass for this team

 

[nelson999]

Would buy league pass for this team

this is why i don't care when the Kings lose. all i want to see is Boogie dominating and McLemore getting some good minutes and starting to become a solid NBA player.  as long as thats happening, i welcome losses

 

[beh235]

The Jazz are on NBATV tonight. Everyone watch how good Gordon Hayward is at basketball.

You right. He can ball and he got hops too. He gets a bad rap because he's white and his haircut 

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

The Jazz are on NBATV tonight. Everyone watch how good Gordon Hayward is at basketball.

26 and 7

 

[big j 33]

Believe it or not.. there's a possibility a player can fall somewhere between the greatest basketball player in the NBA and D MIles

If you believe in Wiggins, that doesn't mean you're guaranteeing he'll eventually be the #1 player in the game... maybe it means you think he'll be a multiple all-star/all-nba/elite player and that's good enough.

 

[awwsome]

this is why i don't care when the Kings lose. all i want to see is Boogie dominating and McLemore getting some good minutes and starting to become a solid NBA player.  as long as thats happening, i welcome losses

Exactly, keep stocking up them lottery picks and keep the cap space open. Boogie/Ben/whatever top 5 pick next year is a good base.

 

[Peep Game]

Baffled that Nick Young is 6'7". He plays like he's 6'0".

 

[black migo]

Baffled that Nick Young is 6'7". He plays like he's 6'0".

Thought he was gonna have a breakout season and lead the team in scoring, preseason had me hyped

 

[lawdog1]

Baffled that Nick Young is 6'7". He plays like he's 6'0".

Actually, the fact that he is 6'7" is part of why he thinks he can get away with shooting so many contested fadeaways

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Nick Young is the epitome of YOLO

 

[beh235]

Nick Young is the epitome of YOLO

Swaggy P + Dre + JaVale = entertainment for days 

 

[rook]

bennett is just in a bad situation, the cavs didnt need a pf

Nah he gets PT and continues to brick everything he throws up.

 

[noblekane]

so nba tv is showing denver and utah tonight but not minny and the clippers?

sense has made none

 

[noblekane]

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i was thinking he was gonna say its slowly getting better

 

[Bert.]

so nba tv is showing denver and utah tonight but not minny and the clippers?

sense has made none

losing faith in NBA TV

:x

 

[urbetterthenme]

Lakers need to buy Nash out and let him go back to Phoenix to be Bledosoe's back-up (once the miracle working Suns' training staff fixes his back). Kind of sad to see Nash's career ending the way it is.

Should have went to Miami like planned.....

 

[dt43]

Ballhandling is not one of the hardest traits to develop. All it takes is focus and effort.

The hardest trait to develop is bball IQ and awareness, which is what will always keep OJ Mayo from being an elite player. Beal came into the league with that trait, it's something you can't teach.


If you don't think Beal is an elite shooter, I guess you haven't seen him play enough. Every scout that has seen him, opposing coaches, players, commentators, etc rave about his pure shooting ability. If you take out his first two months when he was adjusting to the NBA game, Beal is shooting over 40% from three for his career which is an elite mark.


I don't know if you're just stanning OJ Mayo or what lol. There is zero comparison between him and Beal. Or Klay Thompson. Or Ben McLemore. Elite shooting ability and bball IQ are the two most important traits for a shooting guard prospect.

A few things,

One...You said "I don't know if you're stanning OJ Mayo or what" which implies that I'm stanning for OJ. OJ's my guy around these parts but I have never ever stanned for him. Ironically, you called Beal, who's SIX GAMES INTO HIS SOPHOMORE SEASON an ELITE shooter but i'm stanning? Yikes You really citing that he's shooting over 40% from the three which is elite, and yet he missed a portion of his freshman season, and we're not even a quarter into his second year you got it though, i'm sleep.

And you can watch OJ, Beal, Klay, or Ben Mac, and literally see the similarities. This discussion is about those guys though, it's about OJ and beal. I showed you statisically, why they are exactly alike. If you disagree then fine, ( I don't know how) but there's nothing to stan about in this case OJ is an above average player, just what beal is right now, the hell it's not like i'm saying either of them are elite or anything.

And I don't know how often you pay attention to NBA players, but for the most part they work their ***** off. This is their job that they have to support themselves and their families with. Do you really think they aren't working hard as hell on their ballhandling? I've seen personally juice working hours upon hours on ballhandling up at SC. It's a trait that you can get slightly better at, but by the time one is 18, 19 years old you are kind of stuck with who you are. Of course you cited Kevin Durant though as an example of disproving this though right The things you see pros as being deficient at you can rest assure they spend hours upon hours trying to get better at it. It's called plateauing and sometimes, certain skills just aren't in the cards for you.

And I'm done after this but all I was trying to say is that OJ and Beal play just alike and use the same weapon(s) to be effective. Beal is being highly touted for his scoring prowess but all I'm saying is that unless he expands his scoring arsenal and gets to the free throw line more, his fate is more likely OJ Mayo's than Ray Allen, except OJ is a bit better then him as a playmaker and ballhandler, traits that are very hard to become better at.

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You're blind if you can't see that they are just alike.

Okay, if you wanna say they're similar right now that's fine. I was just pointing out the difference between Beal as a 'prospect' and Mayo as a 'prospect'..

The top ranked shooting guard prospect in the draft, Beal was compared by one NBA personnel official to Boston Celtics guard Ray Allen "in terms of being able to catch and shoot,"

Obviously he's not there yet, I'm just saying that the tools are there for him. Of course he has more work to do, on Wizards blogs/messageboards the main thing people talk about wanting to see from him is improvement on ballhandling and creating his own shot. His turnovers are high right now because he's handling the ball a lot more than he had in the past (similar to how Oladipo has high TOs at the moment), if that doesn't go down over time it will be a troubling trend. But the most promising thing about him is the pure jumpshot + bball IQ. Not trying to sound like a stan but even opposing commentators (sometimes when I stream Wiz games I get the other team's broadcast) frequently comment on how much he reminds them of Ray Allen because of his ability to move without the ball and score within the flow of the offense.

Repping you, good points made and good discussion.

 

[dt43]

Nick Young is the epitome of YOLO

Swaggy P + Dre + JaVale = entertainment for days 

Don't forget 'Steez' aka Jordan Crawford

Dunking on Lebron changed the path of his life forever. Once thought to be a 'decent' scoring prospect with a moderate amount of upside in the NBA, that fateful day at Nike camp imbued him with the reincarnated spirit of Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. No shot was too tough for Steez, no moment too big. Jacking contested fadeaway jumpers early in the shotclock became a way of life.

 

[had pants]

Also in consideration of most YOLO

 

[buc em]

The Kings should have drafted Noel to play alongside Cousins. They need an all-defense type of guy that isn't gonna demand touches on offense next to him or he's never gonna fully work out. Wiggins or Parker would both just be more guys that are gonna want to score the ball. They should go for Embiid if they get a pick outside the top 3.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Don't forget 'Steez' aka Jordan Crawford

Dunking on Lebron changed the path of his life forever. Once thought to be a 'decent' scoring prospect with a moderate amount of upside in the NBA, that fateful day at Nike camp imbued him with the reincarnated spirit of Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. No shot was too tough for Steez, no moment too big. Jacking contested fadeaway jumpers early in the shotclock became a way of life.

The crawfords gon crawford