2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

This summer, if the chance comes, Love, Rondo, Neither, or Both?

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Celtics & Sixers are still a long way away.

The only reason it looks "okay" is because they are in the East. Same record as Celtics in West is 9-1/2 back from 8th.

And even with those picks, there is no clear path to contention.... Playoffs? For Celtics, sure. For Sixers, it's still bleak and erratic.

As for Celtics all those picks means virtually nothing right now, they are floating assets. Their chances in Free Agency are slim to none.. We all know that to be true. No one is going to play in Boston with that team. Not now, and not in the next few years. Right now they are in Purgatory, and have an extended stay of 10-17 picks coming their way. New CBA makes it more difficult to pull a James Harden trade, that was extraordinary circumstances because teams see how that went, and they keep on to their guys who will hit RFA instead. They have the assets to pull it off, BUT they'd have to find a team that has a guy on the verge of stardom that they have under control for multiple years, and with the huge increase in salary cap, a Thunder situation is less likely.


The Celtics are in a better spot than us because multitude of picks, undoubtedly.. But unless a 10-17 pick becomes Paul Pierce, it certainly is not a great position either.



As for Boozer, it actually was a smart move... If Randle stays healthy..... Randle gets his feet wet off the bench in a month takes over as starter, Boozer off the bench. And Boozer is actually the right guy to mentor Randle offensively. A PF who was successful as a below the rim player and was solid in Pick and Pop, actually something that would benefit Randle.

Spare me about the Nick Young signing, it wasn't / isn't a problem, nor does it hurt us, to say it does is just ridiculous.

Jordan Hill was a misstep of surveying the trade market. The number was $9mil, not $12mil, actually still good value, but tougher to trade. Had they signed him 4 year / $28mil, it'd be easier to trade, but they had a "Plan" do not tie up future spending needlessly.
 
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Going back to the 2009-2014 drafts: Players of note in the 10-17 picks:

Jrue Holiday

Paul George 

Ed Davis

Klay Thompson

Kawhi Leonard

Kendall Marshall

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Zach Lavine.

Obviously a crapshoot, but they could get a stud or a dud 
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 but then again you could say the same thing about a top 5 pick. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
 
Going back to the 2009-2014 drafts: Players of note in the 10-17 picks:

Jrue Holiday

Paul George 

Ed Davis

Klay Thompson

Kawhi Leonard

Kendall Marshall

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Zach Lavine.

Obviously a crapshoot, but they could get a stud or a dud 
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 but then again you could say the same thing about a top 5 pick. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kendall Marshall?
 
 
 
Going back to the 2009-2014 drafts: Players of note in the 10-17 picks:

Jrue Holiday

Paul George 

Ed Davis

Klay Thompson

Kawhi Leonard

Kendall Marshall

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Zach Lavine.

Obviously a crapshoot, but they could get a stud or a dud 
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 but then again you could say the same thing about a top 5 pick. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kendall Marshall?
He played for us damnit 
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We would have probably been behind the Pelicans right now if everyone stayed healthy.
middle of the road team. Basketball purgatory 
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with cap space for FA's though
You'd rather be a middle of the road team with capspace, in a lost season, then be a bottom 5 team, with a chance at okafor, towns, russell, mudiay AND capspace?

It's not even about tanking, it's about what's logical. imo.
 
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We would have probably been behind the Pelicans right now if everyone stayed healthy.
middle of the road team. Basketball purgatory 
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with cap space for FA's though
You'd rather be a middle of the road team, in a lost season, then be a bottom 5 team, with a chance at okafor, towns, russell, mudiay AND capspace?

It's not even about tanking, it's about what's logical. imo.
i thought we were speaking in hypotheticals, IF we had a healthy team. going forward the team would be alright if we were a middle of the pack team battling for a playoff spot. ideally the pick wouldnt be in the top 15 -20 if everything went as planned. 

but i get you though, kobe going down for the year was a blessing for the team 
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....longterm. 

wonder how CP feels about how things turned out, kobe gets 24 mil but ends up hurt, the team ends up with a potential #1 pick
 
To the 10 people who voted for Love and the 4 people who voted for Rondo...

Please exit the laker thread....and never return please.

Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
We would have probably been behind the Pelicans right now if everyone stayed healthy.
middle of the road team. Basketball purgatory 
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with cap space for FA's though
You'd rather be a middle of the road team, in a lost season, then be a bottom 5 team, with a chance at okafor, towns, russell, mudiay AND capspace?

It's not even about tanking, it's about what's logical. imo.
i thought we were speaking in hypotheticals, IF we had a healthy team. going forward the team would be alright if we were a middle of the pack team battling for a playoff spot. ideally the pick wouldnt be in the top 15 -20 if everything went as planned. 

but i get you though, kobe going down for the year was a blessing for the team 
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....longterm. 

wonder how CP feels about how things turned out, kobe gets 24 mil but ends up hurt, the team ends up with a potential #1 pick
For the Sixers yes. 

and CP will **** on that contract forever
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Celtics are not competing for a title this year, or next.. That's pretty much a given. There's 8-9 teams in the West who will run over them, and the top 4 seeds in East would kill them in 5 games.

And unless something unexpected happens in 2016, they won't contend either (and with cap jumping $20+ mil, you're not going to find an OKC in desperate need of cap space and luxury concerns needing to unload somebody young on the cusp of stardom).


So the question I ask to you... By Opening Night 2017, which team is more likely to be a serious contender?

The Celtics are exactly in the same place as us. Not contending.
 
I will never accept the 48.5, but am thrilled with the luck we've had these two years "not tanking".

We still should have pushed all in on the tanking both years and made bigger play for Wiggins/Jabari and this year's 1-2.

But, Randle goin down helped, a little, and let Clarkson be the one to develop. Now I just pray we can land Towns to supplement Randle, and Clarkson will be there to supplement them.

Then just need a FA or two. Just like some of us said as soon as Dwight left.


And Boston has a couple of higher lottery picks comin, Brooklyn's unprotecteds in 2-3 years will be GOLD.
 
If Ryan Kelly was in any other uniform...


*Throws away Rose-colored glasses*

No it'd be the same.

He's a 4 who can shoot a respectable % from the 3.

You're acting like any person here has said he's anything more than the 8th-10th guy in the rotation.

As that? He's better than a lot of guys.
 
Love isn't going to leave and he would be a fool to do so unless Russell is coming and he wants Love.

Rondo... :x :x :{
 
If Ryan Kelly was in any other uniform...


*Throws away Rose-colored glasses*

No it'd be the same.

He's a 4 who can shoot a respectable % from the 3.

You're acting like any person here has said he's anything more than the 8th-10th guy in the rotation.

As that? He's better than a lot of guys.


He's not a factor. 11th-15th man on any playoff teams roster.

I really don't want to get in a back and forth with you again... your opinion will never be of consequence to me.
 
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If Ryan Kelly was in any other uniform...


*Throws away Rose-colored glasses*
No it'd be the same.

He's a 4 who can shoot a respectable % from the 3.

You're acting like any person here has said he's anything more than the 8th-10th guy in the rotation.

As that? He's better than a lot of guys.

He's not a factor. 11th-15th man on any playoff teams roster.
That's exactly what E said 
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I will never accept the 48.5, but am thrilled with the luck we've had these two years "not tanking".

We still should have pushed all in on the tanking both years and made bigger play for Wiggins/Jabari and this year's 1-2.

But, Randle goin down helped, a little, and let Clarkson be the one to develop. Now I just pray we can land Towns to supplement Randle, and Clarkson will be there to supplement them.

Then just need a FA or two. Just like some of us said as soon as Dwight left.


And Boston has a couple of higher lottery picks comin, Brooklyn's unprotecteds in 2-3 years will be GOLD.

That's the wild card those Brooklyn picks... but I still see them as a multi year project like us, and we have the immense FA advantage. As for roster construction, they are not much better than us, if at all (in terms of young guys). They just happen to be in the East, which if we were there, we'd probably have a handful of more wins, the rest comes up with a better coach.

As for our outlook.. I feel like it's compounded because we've never been here before, not in any of our lifetime's, have to go back to post Wilt, pre- Kareem. When Magic retired, we were a title losing team, so we could hold off a couple of years, when Shaq was traded, we had a Top 3 player in the NBA who was extremely young still.

As long as we keep the pick, we're not in too bad of shape.
 
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I will never accept the 48.5, but am thrilled with the luck we've had these two years "not tanking".

We still should have pushed all in on the tanking both years and made bigger play for Wiggins/Jabari and this year's 1-2.

But, Randle goin down helped, a little, and let Clarkson be the one to develop. Now I just pray we can land Towns to supplement Randle, and Clarkson will be there to supplement them.

Then just need a FA or two. Just like some of us said as soon as Dwight left.


And Boston has a couple of higher lottery picks comin, Brooklyn's unprotecteds in 2-3 years will be GOLD.
As long as we keep the pick, we're not in too bad of shape.
*Lakers proceed to win 12 in a row and lose the pick* 
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That's exactly what E said 
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Big difference.

He'll be overseas soon... 1 "skill" guys don't last in the NBA.[/quote]
Kyle Korver and JJ reddick would like to have a word with you. 
 
Kyle Korver is a very good defender as well, and a god like shooter.


But there are MANY MANY MANY 1 skill guys in the NBA who stay a while in the NBA for a good period of time.
 
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Bruh that's so disrespectful to JJ and Kyle it's not even funny.
Did they not make a career out of being able to shoot the ball?

You said 1 "skill" guys don't last long. There's plenty that have made a career out of it. Some guys only defend, some guys only hit threes. it's the same principle.
 
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