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Active NBA Players that are LOCKS to make in the Hall of Fame?
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I think I see what you did there.
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If people on here are saying Lebron can retire right now and get in, then so can Dwyane Wade.....
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yea when it comes to accomplishments i guess you could say dirk is up there. nobodies saying that dirk is even almost as good as barkley because that would be blasphemy...Originally Posted by SIRWAGON
actually it's a lot closer than you think.
and that's just on the NBA level. dirk has international accolades flyimg out his +!+.
just because barkley is from a different era, doesnt mean the things dirk accomplished mean any less.
nowitzki has an mvp. he's in.
EDIT: !*+# wrong quote. i meant to quote the dirk/barkley thing. ok, fixed.
i hate it but steve nash will make HOF when i could name like 5 point guards that i would take before him that arent going to the HOF
Mark Price
Kevin Johnson
Stephon Marbury
Rod Strickland
Baron Davis... of the top of my head
you'd be choosing wrong 5 times.
especially baron, and marbury?
nash is a winner. period.
he's hasnt missed the playoffs since becoming a starter. that's a decade straight.
baron has been there 2, 3 times? marbury once? twice?
these guys show occasional flashes from time to time and people say they 'just need this and this, then they're going to be great'
but nash puts it down for a decade and people cant diss him enough.
i have no idea how anyone can even attempt to discredit steve nash and the things he has done on the court.
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Kobe, Shaq, KG, AI, Duncan, and Nash are all locks.
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Chauncey, and Dirk are on the fence and all may need to do a little more to have stronger consideration. Yao is on the outsidelooking in at this point.
Vince? Please. Other than being 99 Rookie of the year and a slam dunk contest winner and having a gold medal, he hasn't done anything more significantthat is HOF worthy.
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dirk and yao will be inducted at some point.
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Ray Allen WILL be a HOF'er. Reason being is that he is on track to shatter all of Reggie Miller's 3pt shooting records. Plus, he has aring. His ticket is sealed.
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naw he isnt and wont
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Some of these names are hilarious
For those saying Dirk/Nash won't get in...Every League MVP has gotten into the Hall of Fame
All of them. Every. Single. One. Doesn't matter whether you think they deserve the MVP's or not...they're getting in. They're locks.Shouldn't even be a discussion IMO
Look it up if you don't believe...as soon as they qualify, their voted in
For those saying Dirk/Nash won't get in...Every League MVP has gotten into the Hall of Fame
All of them. Every. Single. One. Doesn't matter whether you think they deserve the MVP's or not...they're getting in. They're locks.Shouldn't even be a discussion IMO
Look it up if you don't believe...as soon as they qualify, their voted in
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I'm sorry, but Dirk not getting in first ballot would be preposterous. He still has a good 5+ years left in him, he's not injury prone, he's stillan effective shooter, he'll still be a problem because his game relies on him being a good all-around player, not a good athlete.
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i bash dirk all the time but fact is the soft bum is proably going to end his career as top 5 best forgin born player in NBA history that alonewill get him in.
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he's a glorified role player , he may have shot a high number of 3s, but he was never a game changer. and the reggie miller comparison, reggie miller had the ability to take over game offensively and defensively. granted allen was an excellent shooter but he didnt make a significantdifference in the teams accomplishments, and the year he did win he did very little to contribute , he didnt even look like a starter.
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exactly, Wade's career thus far > Lebron.. but either way, it's too early for either of those guys to be mentioned. i'm justagreeing with you to counter the clowns saying Lebron could retire right now and get in.
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Originally Posted by brrraptors
fisher? a guy averaging 9.1ppg and 3.3apg over his career is a HoF'er??
Not that I agree with the initial statement but other players have gotten in averaging less. For example, K.C. Jones.
I am aware of his other credentials, for the record.Oh and off-topic but people who believe that Horry should get in usually cite K.C. Jones.
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Not even close.. Any way you look at it, Dirk beats Carter... Other than the fact that Vince was more of an NBA icon than Dirk.
The most obvious and biggest difference is that Dirk won the MVP.
Dirk has also advanced further in the playoffs - making the NBA finals and several conference finals.
Dirk is a 3 x All-NBA 1st team, 3 x All-NBA 2nd and 2 x All-NBA 3rd team selection compared to Carter's 1 x All-NBA 2nd and 1 x All-NBA 3rd team selection.
Statistically, he is every bit as good and probably better than Carter. Dirk is a HOFer if his career ends tomorrow.
Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
yea when it comes to accomplishments i guess you could say dirk is up there. nobodies saying that dirk is even almost as good as barkley because that would be blasphemy...Originally Posted by SIRWAGON
actually it's a lot closer than you think.
and that's just on the NBA level. dirk has international accolades flyimg out his +!+.
just because barkley is from a different era, doesnt mean the things dirk accomplished mean any less.
nowitzki has an mvp. he's in.
EDIT: !*+# wrong quote. i meant to quote the dirk/barkley thing. ok, fixed.
i hate it but steve nash will make HOF when i could name like 5 point guards that i would take before him that arent going to the HOF
Mark Price
Kevin Johnson
Stephon Marbury
Rod Strickland
Baron Davis... of the top of my head
you'd be choosing wrong 5 times.
especially baron, and marbury?
nash is a winner. period.
he's hasnt missed the playoffs since becoming a starter. that's a decade straight.
baron has been there 2, 3 times? marbury once? twice?
these guys show occasional flashes from time to time and people say they 'just need this and this, then they're going to be great'
but nash puts it down for a decade and people cant diss him enough.
i have no idea how anyone can even attempt to discredit steve nash and the things he has done on the court.
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Huh?
Tell me outta these guys who Nash is better then. Again.
Magic
Isaiah
Stockton
Payton
Kidd
Billups
Parker
CP3
DWilliams
And I know DWill and Paul are still just kids, but what they are doing already in their career > anything Nash ever did.
Nobody in their right mind would take Nash over ANY of those PG's. The guy is closer and closer to not even being a top ten PG in history and yet everyonewants to call him an automatic lock.
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J Kidd is a complete lock. Third in career Triple Doubles and two NBA Finals appearances....
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parker?
is a finals mvp enough?
is a finals mvp enough?
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Alonzo is absolutely a HOF'er.
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Ray Allen is a lock.
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?Originally Posted by CP1708
Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
yea when it comes to accomplishments i guess you could say dirk is up there. nobodies saying that dirk is even almost as good as barkley because that would be blasphemy...Originally Posted by SIRWAGON
actually it's a lot closer than you think.
and that's just on the NBA level. dirk has international accolades flyimg out his +!+.
just because barkley is from a different era, doesnt mean the things dirk accomplished mean any less.
nowitzki has an mvp. he's in.
EDIT: !*+# wrong quote. i meant to quote the dirk/barkley thing. ok, fixed.
i hate it but steve nash will make HOF when i could name like 5 point guards that i would take before him that arent going to the HOF
Mark Price
Kevin Johnson
Stephon Marbury
Rod Strickland
Baron Davis... of the top of my head
you'd be choosing wrong 5 times.
especially baron, and marbury?
nash is a winner. period.
he's hasnt missed the playoffs since becoming a starter. that's a decade straight.
baron has been there 2, 3 times? marbury once? twice?
these guys show occasional flashes from time to time and people say they 'just need this and this, then they're going to be great'
but nash puts it down for a decade and people cant diss him enough.
i have no idea how anyone can even attempt to discredit steve nash and the things he has done on the court.
Huh?
Tell me outta these guys who Nash is better then. Again.
Magic
Isaiah
Stockton
Payton
Kidd
Billups
Parker
CP3
DWilliams
And I know DWill and Paul are still just kids, but what they are doing already in their career > anything Nash ever did.
Nobody in their right mind would take Nash over ANY of those PG's. The guy is closer and closer to not even being a top ten PG in history and yet everyone wants to call him an automatic lock.
Nash isn't significantly worse than any of those PG's as far as being a PG and passing the ball goes. Nash is arguably the best shooterfrom those guys aside from Stockton. The thing is you can't compare Nash to guys like Deron and Chris Paul now man... Nash is an aging PG who although isstill effective, just doesn't have the athleticism the kids now have. Of course you'll see Deron and CP3 as better, but they're in their prime (orprogressively getting better), while Nash is breaking down slowly. Don't get me wrong, Nash is not like the other PG's, he's no where near as goodas defense as ANY of those guys, but Nash is one of those offensive PG's who can hit big shots for you and make it happen. I'm not just saying thisbecause Nash will always be one of my favorite players, but he can dribble it upcourt in the clutch of the game and nail a three like it's nothing. Lasttime I checked, they didn't exclude players if they weren't a top 10 player in their position, either.
The straight up truth is, the man has two MVPs, call them tainted if you want, but those Suns teams were juggernauts. He's a lock, there's not a chancein hell a two-time MVP doesn't make it.
I completely know about Nash at the end of his career shouldn't be compared to CP3 or DWill, what I was talking about is what those two guys are doing now,in their youth, far exceeds anything Nash has done in any of his years in the NBA. Youth, prime, declining years, those two are putting up far better seasons.
So I didn't mean to compare them today to Nash today, I'm not that unfair.
And he's getting in soley on his two MVP's, then all those voters should have their voting rights revoked. I said it then, I say it now. Giving himthose MVP's was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. And he is rewarded and sent to the hall because of it, then the NBA is a sad league.
So I didn't mean to compare them today to Nash today, I'm not that unfair.
And he's getting in soley on his two MVP's, then all those voters should have their voting rights revoked. I said it then, I say it now. Giving himthose MVP's was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. And he is rewarded and sent to the hall because of it, then the NBA is a sad league.
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Nash is going to the HOF. Not necessarily 1st or 2nd ballot, but he is a lock to make it in.
As for young guys like Melo, CP3, D-Williams, etc...no one doubts that they will one day have HOF credentials, but if they were to retire today, they wouldntget in.
I think that T-Mac and Vince will get in, despite never winning anything.
As for young guys like Melo, CP3, D-Williams, etc...no one doubts that they will one day have HOF credentials, but if they were to retire today, they wouldntget in.
I think that T-Mac and Vince will get in, despite never winning anything.