AL MVP RACE

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Who do you think should be the AL MVP, and WHY? Please back up your opinion.
 
Teixiera or Mauer

Mauer because he's done things even Piazza couldn't do on the side of the plate, and is the closest thing to a complete catcher that the modern era hasseen.

Teixiera because he is the best player on the best team.
 
Joe Mauer.

Been chasing .400 the whole summer/and now fall....

Stats: 28 HR, .372 BA, 178 H, 89 RBI

And on top of all that he didn't play the whole first month of April because of back issues. Without him, the Twins might be battling it out with theIndians for fourth place right now, rather than in a hot race with Detroit for first like we currently are.

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Not much of a race IMO. Mauer by a landslide.
 
Tex's numbers are so inflate due to that stadium and the protection he has in the lineup.
 
I'd say Mauer, Jeter or Cabrera. I think Bay would get a couple votes too...
 
It comes down to Tex/Jeter or Maur.

I think it should be Maur though.

Bay fell off. The MVP of the Red Sox is Youk.
 
Originally Posted by JPZx

Joe Mauer.

Been chasing .400 the whole summer/and now fall....

Stats: 28 HR, .372 BA, 178 H, 89 RBI

And on top of all that he didn't play the whole first month of April because of back issues. Without him, the Twins might be battling it out with the Indians Royals for fourth place right now, rather than in a hot race with Detroit for first like we currently are.

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fixed. and yea, gotta give it to joe.
 
Dako,

I think Morales hurt his chances with the swoon he took...if he had kept that pace up he would be right up there with Mauer.
 
I like Jeter, but there's no way he should be in this discussion. There are at least 3 more valuable players on his own team.
 
Originally Posted by JD617

I like Jeter, but there's no way he should be in this discussion. There are at least 3 more valuable players on his own team.
I think the only person more valuable than Jeet right now is either Tex or A-Rod.

Tex only became valuable because A-Rod came back. Jeet has been consistent all year.
 
Originally Posted by JD617

I like Jeter, but there's no way he should be in this discussion. There are at least 3 more valuable players on his own team.


Completely disagree. IMO, there is no way that Tex should be in the discussion. I for one cannot think of one reason why he should be.
 
Figgins

Why? Because you can't say his first name.
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Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by JD617

I like Jeter, but there's no way he should be in this discussion. There are at least 3 more valuable players on his own team.


Completely disagree. IMO, there is no way that Tex should be in the discussion. I for one cannot think of one reason why he should be.

I think Tex should be top 5.

I'm not sure if you're only disagreeing about Tex, or if you think Jeter should be in it. If you do think Jeter should be in it, why?
 
Jeter. Not because I'm a homer. But dude has been showing the complete package. Moved to batting 1st and been getting on base and stealing a decent amountas well. Hell, he even picked it up on defense slightly this year.
 
Originally Posted by JD617

Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by JD617

I like Jeter, but there's no way he should be in this discussion. There are at least 3 more valuable players on his own team.


Completely disagree. IMO, there is no way that Tex should be in the discussion. I for one cannot think of one reason why he should be.

I think Tex should be top 5.

I'm not sure if you're only disagreeing about Tex, or if you think Jeter should be in it. If you do think Jeter should be in it, why?


IMO, Mauer is the runaway favorite. I dont understand why Tex should be in the discussion, because I think Jeter is more valuable to the Yanks than Tex is. Imnot saying Jeter should be at the top of the MVP discussion, but IMO should be higher than Tex. Thats all.
 
Well...I'm with you on Mauer. I think it's pretty clear cut that he should win it.

This basically sums up my feelings on Jeter's candidacy. It's from 3 weeks ago, so some of the stats might be a little off, but you get the idea.
Joe Mauer is your AL MVP. Not Mark Teixeira. Not Kendry Morales. Not Derek Jeter. He is MVP by just about every standard imaginable except for the one applied by bored sportswriters who need copy during an inert pennant race.
Lots of smart people have made the case for Mauer, and to them I'll add that, as late as Aug. 18, Mauer's batting average was higher than Teixeira's on-base percentage (and today it's still above Morales' OBP). If VORP is your thing, the distance between Mauer and Jeter is roughly the same as the distance between Jeter and Marco Scutaro, and Mauer missed all of April. He is so self-evidently the MVP, even by the discredited standards of the old school, that the fact there is even a question makes you wonder if the awards discussion is not so much a proxy war between the statheads and the deadline poets as it is an argument between people who are paying attention and those who are trying to make a tee time.

The latest entry in the genre is Allen Barra's brief on behalf of Jeter, whose resurgence is at least partly due to his playing in a stadium with the rough dimensions of a rice cooker. You can probably recite the argument by heart:
The case for Mr. Jeter as American League MVP is being made by more subjective arguments. "How do you measure the value of inspiration and professionalism?" asks Marty Appel, author of "Munson: The Life and Death of a Yankee Captain." "Some people will ­argue that intangibles don't ­exist, but in the ninth inning of close games everybody believes in them."

Thurman Munson's and Mr. Jeter's personalities were different; Munson was surly and pugnacious, while Mr. Jeter still projects the image of boyish enthusiasm he had as a rookie in 1995. But, says Mr. Appel, the two share one ­important characteristic: "They both lead by example and performance. They helped make their teams better just by being there. No one ever slacked off with either of those guys on the field." To which Mike ­Ozanian of Forbes.com adds: "Jeter has been the ­anchor on a team that could have been ­derailed by injuries to key players like Alex ­Rodriguez. Winning has to count for something."


The campaign for Teixeira was inevitable. He has driven in a fat load of runs for the team with the best record in baseball, and even reasonable people think that should count for something. (It shouldn't, but whatever.) And someone was bound to bring up Morales, undeserving or not, if only because he's put up the most surprising numbers on a team that has put up a lot of them. Jeter is another matter entirely. Barra admits as much, writing, "No one would argue that Mr. Jeter's statistics are better than those of Minnesota catcher Joe Mauer." An MVP for Jeter wouldn't be an award for performance; it'd be an honorarium for Jeter's lengthy service to the sportswriting profession as a catch-basin for all its loose ideals about hustle and leadership and sportsmanship. (It'd be cousin to the vote that put Jim Rice in the Hall of Fame not because he deserved it but because he could be turned into a living PSA about steroids.)

Baseball is full of unworthy MVPs - Jimmy Rollins and Justin Morneau come readily to mind. But at least for them, people had the better sense to make specious arguments on faulty statistical grounds rather than specious arguments on matters of character. Jeter's MVP would be a case of the mythmakers congratulating themselves on the quality of their myth, of sportswriters swallowing their own line of arrant bull %$+*.
 
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Figgins

Why? Because you can't say his first name.
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Man, I hate Chone Figgins. And I know how to say it because I hear it so damn often when he's hitting triples, making great plays and stealing48658632 bases against the Yankees.
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