And So It Begins... The Normalization of White Supremacy (in the media)

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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-white-nationalists-thinktank-20161119-story.html

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I'm sure this is in reference to post-Trump being elected, but let's not even detract from what the OP is clearly sharing.

This is offensive and concerning at the same damn time... Normalizing monsters will make people begin to feel like it's okay to think and behave like that. Say what you will about racism being alive (which clearly it is) but at lease people knew to keep that **** "private" for the last couple of decades.
 
I'm sure this is in reference to post-Trump being elected, but let's not even detract from what the OP is clearly sharing.

This is offensive and concerning at the same damn time... Normalizing monsters will make people begin to feel like it's okay to think and behave like that. Say what you will about racism being alive (which clearly it is) but at lease people knew to keep that **** "private" for the last couple of decades.

Im all for people making their racism known instead of being cowards and hiding. Rather know what Im dealing with than to continue to he stabbed in the back my alleged allies.
 
Im all for people making their racism known instead of being cowards and hiding. Rather know what Im dealing with than to continue to he stabbed in the back my alleged allies.

And while that is a valid point. I'd rather national media avoid puff pieces to make hate and bigotry in America (or anywhere for that matter) an "everyday/ okay" thing.

I haven't read the article so it's unfair for me to judge but from the looks of it, this article makes it seem like these are just everyday guys. I gots and racist are monsters in my eyes. I don't want my kid to grow up in a world where they think "oh my neighbor a racist and that's okay"
 

I'm sure this is in reference to post-Trump being elected, but let's not even detract from what the OP is clearly sharing.

This is offensive and concerning at the same damn time... Normalizing monsters will make people begin to feel like it's okay to think and behave like that. Say what you will about racism being alive (which clearly it is) but at lease people knew to keep that **** "private" for the last couple of decades.

It's ignorant to ignore that this has been going on long before Trump won the election. The word "begin" means to start. Normalizing of white supremacy has been going on for a while. There is nothing new to this phenomon, so what is the purpose of a new thread?

I just don't understand. If you want to talk about the neo nazi article, make the thread about that, not the general idea of normalizing white supremacy, which is one of the oldest ideals tied to the nation, and then say "it begins!" It ignores years of media corporations doing it, thus setting the stage for neo nazis and other hate groups to take on the identity of trendy new start ups in the form of "The New White Voter" or the "Alt-Right."

The more general, "anti-white supremamcy" type threads only beget more ignorance, and they all end the same way. Hence why a lot of NTers don't even post in these threads, they just wait for the "usual suspects" to debate things for the 100th time over.
 
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the alt-right label is the new wrinkle

no one is "ignoring" anything

dont be contrary just to be contrary, contribute to the dialogue
 
the alt-right label is the new wrinkle

no one is "ignoring" anything

dont be contrary just to be contrary, contribute to the dialogue

By using the word "begins," even in the context of Trump, I'm afraid you are.

No one is being contrary for the sake of being contrary. I'm being contrary because I legit don't understand the purpose of this thread. Are you trying to discuss the "beginning" of normalizing white supremacy in the media Post Election 2016, is the purpose to discuss the National Policy Institute and groups like them, or do you just want to argue about white supremacy on NT again?

Words matter.
 
 
Unwarranted fear mongering imo
Perhaps you should take a closer look at the sudden massive spike in hate crimes and other racist incidents in the UK after the Brexit vote. Even now those numbers are still significantly higher than previous years. I'll make a more detailed post on it later with some statistics.

The Brexit campaign wasn't nearly as drenched in bigotry as Trump's campaign. For now it's too early to tell but it's a very realistic possibility that a similar rise will happen in the US. That shouldn't be ignored.
 
so is oochie wally or one mic?

talking about it as "new" or as "general white supremacy", either way youre saying it doesnt need to talked about

its either ignoring history or susceptible to the "the usual characters" right?

so why discuss it all right?

nevermind ppl that read and dont post, nevermind any new contributions to be made
 
 
Perhaps you should take a closer look at the sudden massive spike in hate crimes and other racist incidents in the UK after the Brexit vote. Even now those numbers are still significantly higher than previous years. I'll make a more detailed post on it later with some statistics.

The Brexit campaign wasn't nearly as drenched in bigotry as Trump's campaign. For now it's too early to tell but it's a very realistic possibility that a similar rise will happen in the US. That shouldn't be ignored.
I could also take a look at violent crime rates in areas that were essentially handed over by liberal politicians as well.

Betcha id see a spike. 

Sometimes individuals can be responsible for their own actions in life bro
 

so is oochie wally or one mic?

talking about it as "new" or as "general white supremacy", either way youre saying it doesnt need to talked about

its either ignoring history or susceptible to the "the usual characters" right?

so why discuss it all right?

nevermind ppl that read and dont post, nevermind any new contributions to be made

I didn't say it doesn't need to be talked about at all, I'm asking the purpose of this thread.

It is something to talk about white supremacy in terms of new, "millienial" based groups lile this, or in general terms and depackaging the general white supremacy that has existed here since the 3/5ths compromise. There's a difference - new groups like the policy institute have different priorities and methodologies compared to general white supremacy groups like the KKK. Its productive to talk about those differences. Its not productive to just say white supremacy is bad and argue against it with no particular purpose.

 
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why not discuss all of it? 8o

In order to fix a problem, you have to address that problem at the source. That's why we don't talk about how to beat cancer at a rally about police violence. That's why we don't address the faults of the public school system while we're discussing the plight of space exploration.

If you just want to talk about every aspect of a very general problem, nothing will come of it. But you knew that. So why ask?

What is the focus of this thread? What should we be giving our thoughts on? Why am I even bothering?
 
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