Anyone here suffer from Depression?

[the nomad]

Lmao. I wouldn't take advice from anyone that starts a sentence with " i'm a heroin addict".

 

 , I shouldn't have laughed. an dee 51o have you read a book called "Tender Cut: Inside The World of Self Injury"? It may give you some insight as to why you use drugs. I honestly believe no one uses drugs simply because they like them. 

Agreed. Oh, and OP if you do go and see someone its very important that you feel comfortable with them. I can't stress that enough. If you don't feel comfortable with them, find someone else.

This, again, I never attempted suicide or had thoughts of suicide, but I did call a hotline once looking for anonymous support. I was pouring my eyes out, I was feeling really low like I had no one to understand me. I took a few beers and a blanket on the rooftop overlooking the city. Normally when I entertain guest, which is like every evening, they say my view of the city is spectacular. There's nothing depressing about my rooftop view of Manhattan. But was up there pouring my eyes out, telling this lady that I was feeling worthless, asking her why don't certain people in my life love me. No dambs were given, at all, I stopped to get feedback and she had stoic, emotionless and not ever paying attention to me half the time. I actually thought to myself, if I was one of those suicidal people this call did not help. The comedy of that moment helped more than anything she said on the phone.

My therapist however, my first session was so effective everyone saw the difference, she pointed out my issues she believed I had. I mean places in my mind where I thought no one could see, it was like she was staring right at me. Things I thought were strengths she told me were weaknesses. My weaknesses were my greatest qualities. I felt so naked and vulnerable, but she made me feel safe. It was like that scene where King Kong was sliding on the ice with Ann. Tranquil. I then was able to recognize the hidden dangers and pinpoint where my pain and despair was coming from. 

Like I said I love my therapist, she's a cutie too. 

 

[dt43]

I mean, I'm off the pills and I'm doing fine, bro.


I don't need a pill or a therapist, I don't need my depression cured.


It doesn't stop me from living my life.


It seems like you're still on them, and you seem batty as hell.


Just gonna throw that out there.


Have you suffered from substance abuse in the past?


Serious question, please don't take offense to it.

I'm a heroin addict. Why do I do it? Because it makes me able to function in real life and I'm actually a pretty damn fun guy to be around. I was taking antidepressants in high school and they was helping me. The only reason why I'm not on them still is because I'd rather spend my money on dope. Which doesn't make sense, but whatever.

I probably seem "batty" because I am loaded, but that doesn't take away my credibility. Pills help a ton of people. Therapy helps even more.

How'd you get into heroin if you don't mind me asking? A kid I know just died of an OD, he was only 19. But he started out using prescription opiate pills and just got into dope because it was cheaper. The sad thing is after he ODed a lot of the junkies in my area were specifically seeking out the kid's dealer because they wanted stronger dope.

Do you slam it or snort?

Would you consider making an AMA thread, or no? IDK if it'd be against the rules

 

[an dee 51o]

Dude, you're calling yourself a dope head, junkie, claiming that you're high on dope as you type.

I'm sitting here telling you to help yourself.

You just sit there and make excuses, "Oh, you don't know what its like."

You act like you're the only one w/ problems or illness.

People overcome things everyday, dude.

Stop sitting there feeling sorry for yourself and take action.

OP will be fine, he'll find something that works for him.

No, what you're doing is sitting here trying to analyze me. You're just making stuff up on the fly, man. I never said anything like, "You don't know what it's like." Or that I'm the only one with problems. I said, "I know it's not the best idea, but dope is what is helping me at the moment." I already said that I've done a WHOLE LOT to try to help myself, but heroin is what is getting me through the day right now. You are on your high horse telling me to help myself, as if I have never thought of doing that. Like one day I said, "Man, I'm depressed right now, so I should probably start shooting dope." Come on, dude. It was a long progression to get to where I'm at.

"OP will be fine." That right there tells me YOU DON'T GET IT. He stated in the OP that he's thinking about suicide. What makes you believe that he will be fine? HE MADE A THREAD ON NT ABOUT BEING DEPRESSED. Jesus. That alone should tell you that he's not sure if he will be fine. And if he listened to you, he might not be fine. Especially because he's already done what you suggested and he said it's not helping him any more.

Lmao. I wouldn't take advice from anyone that starts a sentence with " i'm a heroin addict".

 

 , I shouldn't have laughed. an dee 51o have you read a book called "Tender Cut: Inside The World of Self Injury"? It may give you some insight as to why you use drugs. I honestly believe no one uses drugs simply because they like them. 

Naw, but I'll look into it. I pretty much know why I use drugs. People do use drugs because they like them, but I think people rarely become ADDICTED to drugs just because they like them.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Dude, you're calling yourself a dope head, junkie, claiming that you're high on dope as you type.


I'm sitting here telling you to help yourself.


You just sit there and make excuses, "Oh, you don't know what its like."


You act like you're the only one w/ problems or illness.


People overcome things everyday, dude.


Stop sitting there feeling sorry for yourself and take action.


OP will be fine, he'll find something that works for him.

No, what you're doing is sitting here trying to analyze me. You're just making stuff up on the fly, man. I never said anything like, "You don't know what it's like." Or that I'm the only one with problems. I said, "I know it's not the best idea, but dope is what is helping me at the moment." I already said that I've done a WHOLE LOT to try to help myself, but heroin is what is getting me through the day right now. You are on your high horse telling me to help myself, as if I have never thought of doing that. Like one day I said, "Man, I'm depressed right now, so I should probably start shooting dope." Come on, dude. It was a long progression to get to where I'm at.

"OP will be fine." That right there tells me YOU DON'T GET IT. He stated in the OP that he's thinking about suicide. What makes you believe that he will be fine? HE MADE A THREAD ON NT ABOUT BEING DEPRESSED. Jesus. That alone should tell you that he's not sure if he will be fine. And if he listened to you, he might not be fine. Especially because he's already done what you suggested and he said it's not helping him any more.

Right.

Maybe we can chat sometime when you're not "high on dope", as you put it.

You clearly can't think straight at the moment.

OP, I hope you find the strength needed to better yourself, don't allow depression to defeat you.

Overcome at all costs.

 

[an dee 51o]

I mean, I'm off the pills and I'm doing fine, bro.


I don't need a pill or a therapist, I don't need my depression cured.


It doesn't stop me from living my life.


It seems like you're still on them, and you seem batty as hell.


Just gonna throw that out there.


Have you suffered from substance abuse in the past?


Serious question, please don't take offense to it.

I'm a heroin addict. Why do I do it? Because it makes me able to function in real life and I'm actually a pretty damn fun guy to be around. I was taking antidepressants in high school and they was helping me. The only reason why I'm not on them still is because I'd rather spend my money on dope. Which doesn't make sense, but whatever.

I probably seem "batty" because I am loaded, but that doesn't take away my credibility. Pills help a ton of people. Therapy helps even more.

How'd you get into heroin if you don't mind me asking? A kid I know just died of an OD, he was only 19. But he started out using prescription opiate pills and just got into dope because it was cheaper. The sad thing is after he ODed a lot of the junkies in my area were specifically seeking out the kid's dealer because they wanted stronger dope.

Do you slam it or snort?

Would you consider making an AMA thread, or no? IDK if it'd be against the rules

Ha, IAMA heroin user that holds down a 9-5. I would definitely do it. I promise that I wouldn't promote the use of drugs because even though these two dudes seem to think I'm glorifying my use, I'm really doing it because it rewired my brain to basically say that dope is the only thing that can make me happy.

I got into it because I snorted Oxy for the first time with my best friend, and it was like.... the best ever. Started using it more frequently and then soon I was just hooked. I couldn't afford OC's any more, so soon I started using heroin. I was smoking it for a while and then I started slamming it because it was cheaper. And here I am. What I keep trying to tell people is that they really don't understand what goes on in an addicts brain until they experience it. Like, really. It completely destroys your reward system, so your brain stops producing endorphins by itself.

Right.

Maybe we can chat sometime when you're not "high on dope", as you put it.

You clearly can't think straight at the moment.

OP, I hope you find the strength needed to better yourself, don't allow depression to defeat you.

Overcome at all costs.

You really give off a condescending attitude. Like, hardcore. Like I would like about being high for some reason. I have posted many times about my struggle with addiction. And considering I get dopesick when I'm not using, it's gonna be pretty tough to catch me sober. Sorry, we might have to delay that "chat." I highly doubt you have good intentions anyways, considering all you've done in this thread is attack me.

 

[SC kid]

Thread is real.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

You really give off a condescending attitude. Like, hardcore. Like I would like about being high for some reason. I have posted many times about my struggle with addiction. And considering I get dopesick when I'm not using, it's gonna be pretty tough to catch me sober. Sorry, we might have to delay that "chat." I highly doubt you have good intentions anyways, considering all you've done in this thread is attack me.

You're attacking yourself, dude.

I think you're just too high to realize it.

I still hope you get clean one day, hopefully sooner rather than later.

It's almost like you want me to sit here and be like "oh, keep doing those drugs, bro!"

No, I'm going to tell you to man up and better your mind and get clean, and I don't care if you think its condescending.

It's apparent that you surround yourself w/ people that enable you, maybe you need to change your circle.

Gotta start somewhere.

Also, if you want to take it to PM's we can take it there.

I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking you, or that I think that I'm better than you, because I'm not and I don't.

Hell, you could even text me if you're feeling down and need someone to talk to, I don't mind giving you my number.

No one should have to go thru any sort of serious disorder/illness, I truly want you to better yourself, so I apologize if I came off as a douche in previous responses.

That wasn't my intention.

 

[createdestroy]

 

[fresh out dabox]

i just get over it

 

[an dee 51o]

You really give off a condescending attitude. Like, hardcore. Like I would like about being high for some reason. I have posted many times about my struggle with addiction. And considering I get dopesick when I'm not using, it's gonna be pretty tough to catch me sober. Sorry, we might have to delay that "chat." I highly doubt you have good intentions anyways, considering all you've done in this thread is attack me.

You're attacking yourself, dude.

I think you're just too high to realize it.

I still hope you get clean one day, hopefully sooner rather than later.

It's almost like you want me to sit here and be like "oh, keep doing those drugs, bro!"

No, I'm going to tell you to man up and better your mind and get clean, and I don't care if you think its condescending.

It's apparent that you surround yourself w/ people that enable you, maybe you need to change your circle.

Gotta start somewhere.

What you need to do it stop pretending like you know me. I don't want you to tell me to do anything because I don't value your opinion. The fact that you think that I want your encouragement is funny to me because that implies that I would take your advice seriously. You think that the cure for depression is exercise and eating right instead of antidepressants and therapy. Like somehow you think that the combination of all of those things isn't important. There are NTers who have reached out to me that I could tell really hope that I get better. You, on the other hand,  just come off as condescending.

I've said about 5 times in this thread that we should talk about OP, but you want to keep talking about me because you have no advice for OP. He already said he did what you suggested, so it seems like you have nothing else to say.

 

[kickstart]

That sounds like avoidance, bruh. You aren't dealing with aanything, which is why the problem lingers. Good luck OP.

This dude knows. I was in a serious funk for a long, long time. I still am in a way. I did however decide to change as much as I could about myself and get involved with more things so I didn't have as much time to think on my own. I started running a lot and I went back to school. Both things keep me from having too much alone time and it keeps my head straight and focused.

I'm not a pill person. I know far too many people that replaced pills for feelings. I went to shrinks in highschool when I was really acting up but I never liked them. Always felt they were judging rather than helping. I'm more of a "fix it myself" person.

Its good to feel even if its bad things. The trick is to keep yourself busy, for me at least, so the bad things don't overtake you.

 

[ecruteakcityboy]

GREAT thread is great.

I've never told anyone close to me about my depression.
You can say I've been depressed since high school and I have really no clue on how to do deal with it. It's to the point where I can't even think straight and I have trouble focusing.
So a few months ago I decided to grow the balls and talk to my doctor about it.
He gave me a survey that asked me about my depression and I scored HIGH

So he decided to prescribe me some anti-depressants.
When I had bought them and hand them in my hand I threw them out.
I was scared of taking them in a way..

I had this feeling that If I were to take them I would go down a hole that I would never be able climb back out of.
Anyways, at the follow up I told him how I felt and he recommended I see a therapist.

Fast forward to monday and I visit my Jane.
She was awesome and made me feel a whole lot better about myself. She actually listened to what I had to say and gave great advice.

She also prescribed the same medication my pcp gave to me and it it's currently sitting at Walgreens waiting for me to pick up.
Still I'm not sure about taking them.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

10 Tips for Dealing with Depression Naturally:

Instead of pharaceutical drug therapy, perhaps it would be beneficial to begin looking toward natural remedies for depression.

1. Prevention is key. If you know your depressive triggers, do all that you can to avoid them. Reduce anxiety, maintain a healthy diet, and participate in an exercise program, all easier said than done I know, yet they are the most effective preventative measures.


2. Exercise. If you aren’t exercising on a regular basis I highly recommend it. There are so many different forms of exercise (i.e. yoga, aerobics, weight lifting, running, etc.) Begin slowly building up to at least ½ hour a day – it can be even more beneficial for treating/preventing depression if you can do it outside — this alone will help the blood start flowing to all parts of your body and you’ll begin to feel better almost instantly. The most important element to any exercise program is to find one that is the most suitable for you.


3. Diet. Your diet should be high in calcium and B vitamins, cut out the refined carbs, and avoid sugar like the plague. Coincidence that the rate of refined carbohydrates and sugar in our American diet is increasing at an alarming rate and so is the rate of depression? I don’t think so. Eat local, fresh, and sustainable, and use supplements when necessary.


4. Herbal supplements. Herbs contain many medicinal powers and can heal a variety of ailments. St. John’s wort is one of the most promising herbs for the treatment of depression. It has been used for centuries by people and cultures all over the world. A few of the other beneficial herbs include passionflower, lavender, lemon balm, Valerian, oat leafy tops, and nettles. Begin researching the benefits of herbs on depression and anxiety while you seek out the council of a certified herbalist, naturopath, or other holistic health care practitioner.


5. Get enough sleep. Once in a depressed state, one of two things can happen…you sleep to much or you can’t sleep at all. An excellent way to ward off sleep irregularities is to create a bedtime routine and stick to it every single day. Take a soothing bath (using Epsom salts), drink an herbal tea to help naturally induce re****l sleep, reduce stimulants…do whatever works into your lifestyle, but guard your sleep!


6. Pay nature a visit. Prioritize your time in nature by spending at least 30 minutes a day outdoors. It is essential for us to connect with nature, especially during times of depression. Chop wood, mess around in the garden, walk the dog, take a hike, ride a bike, go canoeing, go skiing…whatever you choose to do, do it outside for at least ½ hour — longer if you can. The exposure to sunlight alone can do wonders.


7. Use your hands to create something. Revive your God-given gifts — ’cause we all got ‘em — and use them to make something beautiful. I have discovered that the times in which I’ve been the most depressed I have not listened to a longing deep inside of myself…you know, the one that calls me to do something outside of myself. Whether it be making your home, cooking meals for your family, working on your car, leaning to crochet, baking, writing, taking pictures, painting pictures…stop resisting, follow your heart, and do what you love.


8. Do something for someone else. When depressed, our thoughts tend to turn inward. We often begin re-living our hurts and sometimes helping other people who are hurting, helps us. It’s theraputic to be able to find meaning in doing good.


9. Talk it out intellectually. Depression is not the cause of hopelessness and extreme sadness — it is a symptom. If there is a specific problem you are having that is causing these feeling…hit it head on. Research solutions, meet with a therapist or counselor, set goals, and come up with a plan. Do not allow your problems to go unanswered. Hope can be found in moving, step by step toward addressing our issues.


10. Call a friend. It could be that we are afraid of becoming a burden to those that love us, but we must remember we are relational beings — specially designed to live in community with others. Resist the temptation to isolate yourself and call a friend!

 

[mangudai954]

GREAT thread is great.

I've never told anyone close to me about my depression.
You can say I've been depressed since high school and I have really no clue on how to do deal with it. It's to the point where I can't even think straight and I have trouble focusing.
So a few months ago I decided to grow the balls and talk to my doctor about it.
He gave me a survey that asked me about my depression and I scored HIGH

So he decided to prescribe me some anti-depressants.
When I had bought them and hand them in my hand I threw them out.
I was scared of taking them in a way..

I had this feeling that If I were to take them I would go down a hole that I would never be able climb back out of.
Anyways, at the follow up I told him how I felt and he recommended I see a therapist.

Fast forward to monday and I visit my Jane.
She was awesome and made me feel a whole lot better about myself. She actually listened to what I had to say and gave great advice.

She also prescribed the same medication my pcp gave to me and it it's currently sitting at Walgreens waiting for me to pick up.
Still I'm not sure about taking them.

Glad to hear you're getting help man. You should take about your concerns about taking the medication with your therapist(if you haven't already). Sounds like she's already been helpful im sure she'll give you some insight.

 

[an dee 51o]

GREAT thread is great.

I've never told anyone close to me about my depression.
You can say I've been depressed since high school and I have really no clue on how to do deal with it. It's to the point where I can't even think straight and I have trouble focusing.
So a few months ago I decided to grow the balls and talk to my doctor about it.
He gave me a survey that asked me about my depression and I scored HIGH

So he decided to prescribe me some anti-depressants.
When I had bought them and hand them in my hand I threw them out.
I was scared of taking them in a way..

I had this feeling that If I were to take them I would go down a hole that I would never be able climb back out of.
Anyways, at the follow up I told him how I felt and he recommended I see a therapist.

Fast forward to monday and I visit my Jane.
She was awesome and made me feel a whole lot better about myself. She actually listened to what I had to say and gave great advice.

She also prescribed the same medication my pcp gave to me and it it's currently sitting at Walgreens waiting for me to pick up.
Still I'm not sure about taking them.

Congrats on seeking help. It takes a real man to admit you have problems, so good on you that you made that leap.

Take the pills, man. There is a reason your PCP and psychiatrist recommended the same pills. Which one is it, if you don't mind sharing? Give it a few months, and if it doesn't work, ask your doc about trying something new. If your depression gets worse, make sure you tell your doctor IMMEDIATELY. This is very important. Communication is necessary when taking any type of meds, especially ones that change your brain chemistry.

Hope everything works out for you!

 

[an dee 51o]

9. Talk it out intellectually. Depression is not the cause of hopelessness and extreme sadness — it is a symptom. If there is a specific problem you are having that is causing these feeling…hit it head on. Research solutions, meet with a therapist or counselor, set goals, and come up with a plan. Do not allow your problems to go unanswered. Hope can be found in moving, step by step toward addressing our issues.
 

Uhhhh, wrong. The difference between depression and being sad is that there is NOT a specific problem that causes it.

This is the main thing that I believe you don't understand about depression.

 

[mr marcus]

Only on niketalk would someone be proud to be on heroin

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Wasn't written by me.

Nice try, though.

There was also the word "If" before that statement, which you clearly overlooked.

Like I said, come back when you're sober because you're making an *** out of yourself.

 

[an dee 51o]

Only on niketalk would someone be proud to be on heroin

Only on Niketalk would someone do such a crap job skimming a post that they think I am proud of it. Do you even read, bro? Obviously not.

Wasn't written by me.

Nice try, though.

Then you just plagiarized someone else's work. You posted something that someone else wrote without giving them credit. Bad times.

And it pretty much echos what you've been saying throughout this thread, so it's easy to believe you wrote it.

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Really, dude?



You REALLY need help, God damn.

Looks like you plagiarized your sig, bro, better remove that before I report you!

You're a mess.

 

[an dee 51o]

The fact that I need help doesn't change the face that you plagiarized someone else's work. Not only is it the wrong thing to do, it's just dumb to post a list like that without providing a source

www.curemydepressionwithoutantidepressants.com ?

 

[Deleted member 37467]

Right.

Here, I'll do you a favor and let you win this one dude.

I get the feeling there haven't been too many W's in your life recently.

 

[3am scholar]

Currently interning at a substance abuse clinic, working with individuals addicted to heroin as well as other substances and disorders.

Mangudai954 is the most level-headed person in here, repped.

 

[an dee 51o]

You mean the link that I made up....?

Give credit where credit is due, that's the main point I was trying to make. Not that I think you wrote the list.

You wouldn't want people to use stuff you wrote without giving you credit. It's common ETHICS.

 

[an dee 51o]

Mangudai954 is the most level-headed person in here, repped.

Totally. Mangudai is that dude.