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saw this a min ago on the front page of yahoo...prob the first time he ever graced it - funny what some beef can do
Beanie Sigel signed with G-Unit??
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Seeing as how the t isn't close enough to the d to make an honest mistake, you lose all credibility....you're done for the day
That explanation got me
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Word?
O.K.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Biggie didn't bring Jay-Z into mainstream like Eminem did 50. Jay-Z was already coming up with Reasonable Doubt, Eminemsigned 50, Jay-z and Damon Dash did their own thing. Roc-a-Fella went strong for almost over 10 years. G-unit fizzled out after The massacre.
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Look at the Roc's run Vs. G-Unit's run.
How can you even say Roc had a run, Jay Z was the ONLY artist to drop on that label until Memph Bleek's debut in 99 which failed to go gold, then Beansdropped in 2000 (I think Rell dropped an album that went nowhere in the late 90s)...
They didn't have another platinum artist on the label until 6 years after Reasonable Doubt & that was Cam, who ended up leaving in 3 years after, Jay Zgot jelous... You would think a label that couldn't manage to produce another artist that could sell a million would be happy for another successful rapperand his ENTIRE movement joining the label and making the roster A LOT stronger... NOPE, Jay Z was jelous of Cam's shine...
Then no one else went plat until Kanye in 04... So thats 8 years in between 3 different acts goin platinum...
Where as the first release on G Unit was Beg For Mercy - Multi Platinum, the 2nd release Hunger For More - Multi Platinum, 3rd Straight Outta Cashville -Platinum, Documentary - Multi Platinum, Massacre - Multi Platinum, Thoughts Of A Predicate Felon - Gold, GRODT soundtrack - Platinum...
Thats all in a 2-3 year span... Every artist that dropped on the label either went Multi-Platinum/Plat/or Gold... Where as Roc A Fella needed someone who Damebrought in to acheive the same feats... Much like Dame was the one to bring Kanye to the Roc... But yall gonna give Jay Z all the credit?? You can't beserious...
The Roc wasn't even considered an active label until Dip Set came there, they had 3 artists that came out for 6 or 7 years... & Jay was the only onereally selling units...
Lets not forget cats that were down with the Roc from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back that never did $!!$
Christian
Rell
Diomonds In Da Ruff
Amil
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Biggie didn't bring Jay-Z into mainstream like Eminem did 50. Jay-Z was already coming up with Reasonable Doubt, Eminem signed 50, Jay-z and Damon Dash did their own thing. Roc-a-Fella went strong for almost over 10 years. G-unit fizzled out after The massacre.
So Jay Z appearing on Life After Death (which is the highest selling hip hop album since) did nothing for Jay Z who failed to go gold on theorginal release of Reasonable Doubt didn't help him?? Appearing on Brooklyn's Finest, or the Dead Presidents video, or Ain't No N vid... BIGputting him on Lil Kim's debut (which sold more then Jay's) didn't help him??... Jay Z got ALOT of help, Foxy saved his career,Irv Gotti is what got him on Def Jam to begin with, ROC was on Prorioty@ Roc A Fella going "Strong" for 10 years...
I don't know if you are too young to remember, or just an idiot, but you don't know what you're talkin about... AT ALL
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*peeks in*
*looks around*
*chuckles*
*leaves*
*looks around*
*chuckles*
*leaves*
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So Jay Z appearing on Life After Death (which is the highest selling hip hop album since) did nothing for Jay Z who failed to go gold on the orginal release of Reasonable Doubt didn't help him?? Appearing on Brooklyn's Finest, or the Dead Presidents video, or Ain't No N vid... BIG putting him on Lil Kim's debut (which sold more then Jay's) didn't help him??... Jay Z got ALOT of help, Foxy saved his career, Irv Gotti is what got him on Def Jam to begin with, ROC was on Prorioty
I don't know if you are too young to remember, or just an idiot, but you don't know what you're talkin about... AT ALL
People will always act like something didn't happen just because they dont remember it.......or is it just rap fans?
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How can you even say Roc had a run, Jay Z was the ONLY artist to drop on that label until Memph Bleek's debut in 99 which failed to go gold, then Beans dropped in 2000 (I think Rell dropped an album that went nowhere in the late 90s)...
They didn't have another platinum artist on the label until 6 years after Reasonable Doubt & that was Cam, who ended up leaving in 3 years after, Jay Z got jelous... You would think a label that couldn't manage to produce another artist that could sell a million would be happy for another successful rapper and his ENTIRE movement joining the label and making the roster A LOT stronger... NOPE, Jay Z was jelous of Cam's shine...
Then no one else went plat until Kanye in 04... So thats 8 years in between 3 different acts goin platinum...
Where as the first release on G Unit was Beg For Mercy - Multi Platinum, the 2nd release Hunger For More - Multi Platinum, 3rd Straight Outta Cashville - Platinum, Documentary - Multi Platinum, Massacre - Multi Platinum, Thoughts Of A Predicate Felon - Gold, GRODT soundtrack - Platinum...
Thats all in a 2-3 year span... Every artist that dropped on the label either went Multi-Platinum/Plat/or Gold... Where as Roc A Fella needed someone who Dame brought in to acheive the same feats... Much like Dame was the one to bring Kanye to the Roc... But yall gonna give Jay Z all the credit?? You can't be serious...
The Roc wasn't even considered an active label until Dip Set came there, they had 3 artists that came out for 6 or 7 years... & Jay was the only one really selling units...
Lets not forget cats that were down with the Roc from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back that never did $!!$
Christian
Rell
Diomonds In Da Ruff
Amil
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Biggie didn't bring Jay-Z into mainstream like Eminem did 50. Jay-Z was already coming up with Reasonable Doubt, Eminem signed 50, Jay-z and Damon Dash did their own thing. Roc-a-Fella went strong for almost over 10 years. G-unit fizzled out after The massacre.
So Jay Z appearing on Life After Death (which is the highest selling hip hop album since) did nothing for Jay Z who failed to go gold on the orginal release of Reasonable Doubt didn't help him?? Appearing on Brooklyn's Finest, or the Dead Presidents video, or Ain't No N vid... BIG putting him on Lil Kim's debut (which sold more then Jay's) didn't help him??... Jay Z got ALOT of help, Foxy saved his career, Irv Gotti is what got him on Def Jam to begin with, ROC was on Prorioty@ Roc A Fella going "Strong" for 10 years...
I don't know if you are too young to remember, or just an idiot, but you don't know what you're talkin about... AT ALL
For you to say that Jay was jealous of Cam'ron, means either you're too young or an idiot. You guys are listing Beg for Mercy which was a compilationalbum, we're talking about who released more talent between Jay and 50. As for not doing $!!$: Olivia M.O.P Mase Fox (LOL) Hot Rod Hell even Mobb Deep. Andwhere the hell is Lloyd Banks and Tony Yayo?
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im not you
Banned
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All of you dudes are lame...seriously.
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People will always act like something didn't happen just because they dont remember it.......or is it justOriginally Posted by SEND ONE
So Jay Z appearing on Life After Death (which is the highest selling hip hop album since) did nothing for Jay Z who failed to go gold on the orginal release of Reasonable Doubt didn't help him?? Appearing on Brooklyn's Finest, or the Dead Presidents video, or Ain't No N vid... BIG putting him on Lil Kim's debut (which sold more then Jay's) didn't help him??... Jay Z got ALOT of help, Foxy saved his career, Irv Gotti is what got him on Def Jam to begin with, ROC was on Prorioty@ Roc A Fella going "Strong" for 10 years...
I don't know if you are too young to remember, or just an idiot, but you don't know what you're talkin about... AT ALL
Sure that helped as well as having features with some of the other artists you mentioned, but Jay Z was never signed with any of those artists or producers you could name. He built his own brand, and didn't get signed by one of if not the biggest rapper in the game at the time.
So since Jay Z wasn't signed to them it doesn't count?? Fox was never signed to Roc... Lil Kim was NEVER signed to Bad Boy... So I guess neither one ofthem got help, they rose to fame on their own 2 huh??... I swear you are willing to throw any argument out there to protect your idol regardless of if itmakes a minimul amount of sense or not...
You act as if 50's 02 mixtape buzz wasn't bigger than what Jay had with 2 albums out already... You're trying to rewrite history to make it seemlike Jay Z just emerged from his own hard work and sweat, when infact if you look @ it he got WAAAAY more help, no one in NYC wanted to @%$! with 50... Theywas all scared. Meanwhile the REAL King Of New York was pulling strings making sure Jay Z was good, cause he couldn't have done it on his own, like he hadtried the 7 years before to no avail... But I guess we'll convienetly forget about that too...
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For all intense purposes G-Unit is on life support champ. Also, Rocafellla may be dead and buried but their run was ALOT longer than G-Unit's run. I tried to tell all you dudes before, it's not how fast you sprint out of the gates but how well you run the race and how you finish.
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Simple question... Who got more help...
Jay or 50
Jay or 50
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In general I would say 50. Now if you narrow it down to a certain aspect of the game I might tell you differently.
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I said to myself that I would stay outta this thread but
Are u serious?
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Em and Dre with the cosign?
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I actually did forget about that... Didn't know the Roc A Fella fanatics were actually gonna claim that album as if it was some Roc family affair... It was damn near every hot artist from ever label on the east involved in that...
I guess we can give Roc A Fella credit for that... So from 96-02 they had 2 platinum artists and a platinum DJ(??)... Now thats a Dynasty
im not even tryin to argue that point, but that was the reason for the change of the album to Jay's. you ask, you got an answer.
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Originally Posted by jthagreat
Em and Dre with the cosign?
Edit: It doesnt even make sense talking to yall
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You're in the state of denial...
Is there something in your STANism that doesn't allow you to tell the truth if it hurts Jay Z?? Come on fam...
Jay Z was riding coatails from 1989 till 96... There was no bidding war for him, Irv Gotti got Roc A Fella that deal @ Def Jam... This is sad...
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Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by jthagreat
Em and Dre with the cosign?
You conviently forget that Fif was the most sought after free agent just off of his SELF MADE mixtape buzz even before he got signed to shady/aftermath?
Edit: It doesnt even make sense talking to yall
Na fam, i dont even know how or why i put myself in this convo/debate, but the co sign of Dre and Em was huge.
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