Black Culture Discussion Thread

[Coromanti]

Is that your families tradition? I haven't run into many Orthodox. What are some of the main differences from your experience between Orthodoxy and what is practices as an American Christianity?

I was raised in the Anglo-Catholic/High Church variant of the Anglican/Episcopal Church. I Ieft Christianity specifically and religion generally for 10 years and came back after finding a philosophical dead end in atheism. I did my research and found Orthodox Christianity the most coherent and consistent tradition and converted.

I find the theology of typical American Protestantism shallow, and generally ignorant of Christian history worldwide. I find that most strains of Protestantism to be a repeat of many heresies defeated centuries if not over 1000 years ago. It also seems theologically Protestantism has devolved into less about being a specific theology and more about being NOT Roman Catholic.

Some differences are

Physically/Visually:
- Our churches are highly decorated and intentionally meant to NOT look like any secular building. Most Protestant churches are quite bare (imo a product of the Germanic roots of the Reformation) and many are interchangeable with any regular concert/convention hall

- Only males can become Priests and Bishops, women may become Deaconesses or women's and children's ministry leaders

- formal liturgy, more 'serious' tone

Theologically
- we believe in the real presence of Christ during Eucharist (Communion)

- we believe in the intercession of saints and angels

- emphasis on the trinitarian formula (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) as opposed to Jesus alone.

- we believe Tradition is as valid a reference as Scripture itself (since the Bible is a product of tradition itself)

 

[AIR J XIII]

the berbers or moors?

Either or.

The point is, the paintings are going to reflect who's in rulership. Which is why ever since so called Caucasians have come into rulership since the renaissance, all of the saints have been portrayed as Caucasian.

wth, u "look" more sub saharan african than i do, but have more european dna than i do. these dna test are weird.

So what should that tell you about these dna tests?

“European” dna

 

[gry60]

It's some heavy history revisionism up in here.

Zinédine Zidane is a Berber. Does he look Black?

Were Black folks present in Europe since we started recording history? Yes. Did they conquer territories north of the Mediterranean Sea? You bet. But they did not rule all of Europe throughout the Middle Ages. This is in line with the WS thinking that humanity didn't originate in Africa and Africans couldn't have had great civilizations.

 

[layziegunts]

I consider those North Africans (Berber, etc) more Arabs than African.

Zinadine Zidane is NOT black

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

I consider those North Africans (Berber, etc) more Arabs than African.

Zinadine Zidane is NOT black

Africa is a continent

 

[debso]

yeah Univision...not rocking with it at all. I remember watching years and years ago and I've seen more than a few questionable things on there.
I saw how they had someone in blackface pretending to be celia cruz and that was the last I watched of Univision.
smhhhh.

 

[tomdiginson]

It's some heavy history revisionism up in here.

Zinédine Zidane is a Berber. Does he look Black?

Were Black folks present in Europe since we started recording history? Yes. Did they conquer territories north of the Mediterranean Sea? You bet. But they did not rule all of Europe throughout the Middle Ages. This is in line with the WS thinking that humanity didn't originate in Africa and Africans couldn't have had great civilizations.

Bro, I'm reading some of the **** in here in utter disbelief.

 

[layziegunts]

Africa is a continent

duh geographically its one continent

but Sub-Saharah Africans are more closely tied ethnically, while people from Northern African countries (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco) are MAINLY Arabs or mixed with Arabs.

The people from those Northern African regions are completely different from the ones from Sub-Saharan Africa. Simple

 

[layziegunts]

https://www.leftvoice.org/jay-z-white-supremacy-and-capitalism-cause-police-brutality-not-absent-fathers

 

[gry60]

duh geographically its one continent

but Sub-Saharah Africans are more closely tied ethnically, while people from Northern African countries (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco) are MAINLY Arabs or mixed with Arabs.

The people from those Northern African regions are completely different from the ones from Sub-Saharan Africa. Simple

I hope you don't go around calling Berbers Arabs; you're looking for trouble. They are two distinct ethnic groups, and although they're not black, Berbers are very much indigenous to Africa.

 

[layziegunts]

I hope you don't go around calling Berbers Arabs; you're looking for trouble. They are two distinct ethnic groups, and although they're not black, Berbers are very much indigenous to Africa.

If you read what I said I never called “Berbers” Arabs

 

[DCAllAfrican]

14-year-old D.C. student starts his first day at George Washington University | WJLA
https://wjla.com/news/local/14-year...Kg4sqng8hxMV2LUCdIcqZzXDQ2zBGU7_13DE8-F09d_Pg

 

[layziegunts]

Respect Papa Mugabe

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/obituaries/robert-mugabe-dead.html

Robert Mugabe, Strongman Who Cried, ‘Zimbabwe Is Mine,’ Dies at 95
Until 2017, he was the only leader his country had known since independence in 1980. He presided over its long decline.

Robert Mugabe, the first prime minister and later president of the independent state of Zimbabwe, presided over the decline of one of Africa’s most prosperous lands.CreditCreditGeert Vanden Wijngaert/Associated Press

 

[layziegunts]

14-year-old D.C. student starts his first day at George Washington University | WJLA
https://wjla.com/news/local/14-year...Kg4sqng8hxMV2LUCdIcqZzXDQ2zBGU7_13DE8-F09d_Pg

We have some brilliant young kids, but will they use their intelligence to move the race forward or just be used as another pawn for white supremacy?

 

[wr]

Unfortunately the best and brightest of us are usually taken away from the community.

 

[Present]

We have some brilliant young kids, but will they use their intelligence to move the race forward or just be used as another pawn for white supremacy?

I dont beleive those are the only two choices.

They should live according to their own will and desires, whatever those may be.

 

[layziegunts]

I dont beleive those are the only two choices.

They should live according to their own will and desires, whatever those may be.

There is a reason why Jews, Chinese, Arabs, etc are doing well, they put their community and culture first before anything else.

 

[layziegunts]

I dont beleive those are the only two choices.

They should live according to their own will and desires, whatever those may be.

bro, this is a BLACK CULTURE thread and you are disagreeing with me that a brilliant black child shouldnt use his gifts for OUR benefits

 

[Present]

There is a reason why Jews, Chinese, Arabs, etc are doing well, they put their community and culture first before anything else.

Thats not why. History is why. You subject Jews, Chinese, Arabs, etc to the same barrel we are thrown into and the results would be no different.

bro, this is a BLACK CULTURE thread and you are disagreeing with me that a brilliant black child shouldnt use his gifts for OUR benefits

Yup. Exaclty right. He / She should do whatever they want with thier talents / abilities. They dont owe anyone else anything. Just my opinion. No arguement needed.

 

[gry60]

Respect Papa Mugabe

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/obituaries/robert-mugabe-dead.html

Robert Mugabe, Strongman Who Cried, ‘Zimbabwe Is Mine,’ Dies at 95
Until 2017, he was the only leader his country had known since independence in 1980. He presided over its long decline.

Robert Mugabe, the first prime minister and later president of the independent state of Zimbabwe, presided over the decline of one of Africa’s most prosperous lands.CreditCreditGeert Vanden Wijngaert/Associated Press

Can't wait for Biya to join him, wherever he is.

The revolutionaries from the African independence era need to let go of power, because most of them have not done right by their people.

 

[layziegunts]

Thats not why. History is why. You subject Jews, Chinese, Arabs, etc to the same barrel we are thrown into and the results would be no different.

And Im not disagreeing with you that our history (especially over the past couple hundred years) has be more harsh for us, however that doesnt mean we should strive to be more of a community under the banner of black so we can be in a better position

Yup. Exaclty right. He / She should do whatever they want with thier talents / abilities. They dont owe anyone else anything. Just my opinion. No arguement needed.

I disagree, yes we all have our own free will, but when our best and brightest usually dont benefit black culture then we need to re-think what we have been celebrating.

If that kid goes to an HBCU then I would really applaud.

 

[layziegunts]

Can't wait for Biya to join him, wherever he is.

The revolutionaries from the African independence era need to let go of power, because most of them have not done right by their people.

Biya is a stauch supporter of France, which im completely agaisnt

Mugabe was the complete opposite of him, he was for Zimbabwe and the blacks ONLY

 

[Present]

I disagree, yes we all have our own free will, but when our best and brightest usually dont benefit black culture then we need to re-think what we have been celebrating.

If that kid goes to an HBCU then I would really applaud.

Meh.

I went to an HBCU.

Hampton.

Would have made a different choice if I had to do it all over again.

 

[Nouss]

 

[Present]

https://www.leftvoice.org/jay-z-white-supremacy-and-capitalism-cause-police-brutality-not-absent-fathers

Jay been rich for forever, Mans cant even relate.

Seat at the table? Word?