Black Culture Discussion Thread

[tokes99]

“Liking” someone is going to pay the bills or keep the water on. “Liking” someone, isn’t going to make them pay the mortgage or raise the kids.

…. Where’s the benefit?

How is there a benefit in liking someone again, if all the daily and tangible needs aren’t met? That’s where people fall short in life

i meant is as and and/or but yea it is very intangible but it is a benefit nonetheless…if we are talking about physical attraction standards, women’s are probably higher than men’s keeping it honest, women may have a broader spectrum of attributes they find attractive for their other needs but a man that she actually just is really physically into is rare for women…

most women (in the western world) today, even with it being the case that they generally don’t earn as much as the men, are able to at least subsist & in some case thrive on their own to meet most of their tangible needs for themselves & their chirren, so it the intangibles matter…and we have all observed that women will put a lot of qualifications on guys they aren’t initially really feeling like that or talking about needing to ‘apply pressure’ whereas the guy that is him to her gets that easy pass through the red flag toll plaza…men do this too it just that women are viscerally attracted to fewer men than men are to women so it is easier to call out men on

 

[tr1ll]

Speaking of men making more than women. I wonder if that still the case. Especially in the black community seeing that black women are going to college more than men.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Speaking of women making more than men. I wonder if that still the case. Especially in the black community seeing that black women are going to college more than men.

Has this every been the case? (Comparing salaries when men and women hold similar positions) (Black women have to deal with both the Gender & Racial Wage Gaps)


Or are you defining, "Making more than men" as something different?

 

[tr1ll]

Has this every been the case? (Comparing salaries when men and women hold similar positions) (Black women have to deal with both the Gender & Racial Wage Gaps)


Or are you defining, "Making more than men" as something different?

My bad I typed that out backwards. I meant to say "men making more than women".

 

[tokes99]

Speaking of men making more than women. I wonder if that still the case. Especially in the black community seeing that black women are going to college more than men.

all (at least in the states-tho it’s likely similar in most of the western world) women attend college more than all men…the black community is not an outlier in this regard

one of the main distinctions is really that black men & women are not really consolidating their incomes together in the same household as much as other groups, not that the women are more educated (which again is the case for everyone)

it is still the case that the average man for all men makes more than the average women for all women (which isn’t to say that the the average man earns more than all average women, i.e. the average asian man earns more than the average asian woman but i believe that average asian women earns more than the average black, hispanic, & white man)

that said, i think it is the case that a professional single/unmarried childless woman is earns more than everyone on average (i forget what the exact metric is, women are really kinda capped by child rearing) so there are definitely many women that are top earners, it’s just not a lot relative to the whole

 

[frshstunna]

Yea overall black men still make more than women…It would seem the opposite when the convo is black educated lady vs some random man that barely made it outta high school that comes up from time to time …But if you compare equal levels, dudes make more

 

[DCAllAfrican]

#Respectabilities

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[WASHED KING]

I'm in class right now and can't turn up the volume.

What he say?

Edit nvm saw the captions.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Quiet as it's kept, I think many dudes think like this. They might not have the vocabulary to articulate exactly what they're thinking but this idea of them having the "right" to out their hands on women is clearly something they feel they have or else they wouldn't do it.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

 

[maq25060]

What does this have to do with black culture, though?

Quiet as it's kept, I think many dudes think like this. They might not have the vocabulary to articulate exactly what they're thinking but this idea of them having the "right" to out their hands on women is clearly something they feel they have or else they wouldn't do it.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

I think you're technically correct using the word many. I'd also believe that group of "many men" would be a minority when polling all men and it wouldn't be close.

I'd also venture to think some men who abuse women know it's wrong, but lose control in highly emotional and volatile moments. I don't think all abusers share the same mindset.

 

[finessence]

Buddy don’t even love himself talking about they traumatized. He’s the one with trauma



I see why he insecure


Fool doing interviews with his grass cutters on

 

[finessence]

Quiet as it's kept, I think many dudes think like this. They might not have the vocabulary to articulate exactly what they're thinking but this idea of them having the "right" to out their hands on women is clearly something they feel they have or else they wouldn't do it.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Me saying many dudes have this mentality isn't me saying it's right.

Nah man. Nope.

Them same dudes will hit a WOMAN but tuck their tail if a dude wanted to shoot the fair one.

These dudes are insecure and weak, and EMOTIONAL.

This is what I keep saying about emotions vs emotional. Dudes who lash out because someone doesn’t agree or, want to follow their lead.

That buffoon got on dirty jeans and dirty shoes, who he expect to follow him rollin

 

[DCAllAfrican]

What does this have to do with black culture, though?

Not sure how it ISN'T.

You need to remind yourself of the domestic abuse incidents black men are responsible for?

I think you're technically correct using the word many. I'd also believe that group of "many men" would be a minority when polling all men and it wouldn't be close.

I'd also venture to think some men who abuse women know it's wrong, but lose control in highly emotional and volatile moments. I don't think all abusers share the same mindset.

I ain't got time to worry about what others are doing but it's definitely a (broken) black men issue.

If you put your hands on someone for ANY reason, you feel you have the RIGHT to do it. What other reason would there be? Being emotional and having a "moment" doesn't erase that fact.

 

[deuce king]

Why is this dude conducting an interview using a spatula from the kitchen??

 

[maq25060]

Not sure how it ISN'T.

You need to remind yourself of the domestic abuse incidents black men are responsible for?

Domestic abuse is an issue regardless of race (or gender). I'm not claiming DA as black men issues, no sir. It's a societal issue.

If you put your hands on someone for ANY reason, you feel you have the RIGHT to do it. What other reason would there be? Being emotional and having a "moment" doesn't erase that fact.

I do not agree. People commit offenses often knowing the offense is wrong. This includes violence. This includes domestic violence.

you're correct that the reason it happen doesn't change the fact that it happened. But it happening doesn't mean the person believed they had the right to do it.

 

[deuce king]

Not sure how it ISN'T.

You need to remind yourself of the domestic abuse incidents black men are responsible for?



I ain't got time to worry about what others are doing but it's definitely a (broken) black men issue.

If you put your hands on someone for ANY reason, you feel you have the RIGHT to do it. What other reason would there be? Being emotional and having a "moment" doesn't erase that fact.

“Black men are responsible for”……”black men issue”….??

 

[maq25060]

“Black men are responsible for”……”black men issue”….??

Yeah, that's some wild self hate. I don't think he means harm by it at all, but I gotta push back.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Yeah, that's some wild self hate. I don't think he means harm by it at all, but I gotta push back.

Not even sure what you are even talking about to get self-hate from ANYTHING I said.

BEcause I said I don't give a damn about what men of OTHER races are doing?

Self-Hate? Cool.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Domestic abuse is an issue regardless of race (or gender). I'm not claiming DA as black men issues, no sir. It's a societal issue.

I do not agree. People commit offenses often knowing the offense is wrong. This includes violence. This includes domestic violence.

you're correct that the reason it happen doesn't change the fact that it happened. But it happening doesn't mean the person believed they had the right to do it.

I am focused on BLACK MEN in domestic abuse situations.

This is a BLACK thread. Not an ALL MEN thread.

So if I am discussing DV, I am talking about BLACK MEN doing it.

How is that self-hate?

That literally makes no sense.

 

[tokes99]

Not sure how it ISN'T.

You need to remind yourself of the domestic abuse incidents black men are responsible for?



I ain't got time to worry about what others are doing but it's definitely a (broken) black men issue.

If you put your hands on someone for ANY reason, you feel you have the RIGHT to do it. What other reason would there be? Being emotional and having a "moment" doesn't erase that fact.

it definitely isn’t just the black men, i believe the statistics in general for dv are not as large in the favor of men being the aggressors as many would think, and when it comes to dv in the black community in particular, men & women are very close to parity in terms of who is the aggressor…

i think it is the case that people that put their hands on others are just maladjusted emotionally to solving problems other ways

 

[DCAllAfrican]

But it happening doesn't mean the person believed they had the right to do it.

Whenever you do ANYTHING that blatantly harms someone else, you are doing it because you feel you have the right to do it.

If you kill someone, you feel you had the right to take their life. If you shoplift, you somehow felt you had the right to do so. If I cheat on your wife, you clearly felt like you had the right to do so.

Sure, there CAN be OTHER reasons but if you harm someone else, you felt you had the right to do so.

Same with domestic violence. It's no different.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

it definitely isn’t just the black men, i believe the statistics in general for dv are not as large in the favor of men being the aggressors as many would think, and when it comes to dv in the black community in particular, men & women are very close to parity in terms of who is the aggressor…

i think it is the case that people that put their hands on others are just maladjusted emotionally to solving problems other ways

Let me clear this up because I'm not sure how yall took my words as DV is ONLY a black man issue. That isn't what I am saying, please erase that from your mind. I was saying with how high OUR instances of abusing women are, a BLACK men speaking that nonsense is why it was posted. So it IS AN issue in OUR community.

 

[maq25060]

I am focused on BLACK MEN in domestic abuse situations.

This is a BLACK thread. Not an ALL MEN thread.

So if I am discussing DV, I am talking about BLACK MEN doing it.

How is that self-hate?

That literally makes no sense.

It's a black culture thread, not a black men thread. And I'm not embracing DA as a black culture issue. Again, it is a societal issue.

When I think about a thread for black culture, i guess I think about topics that are rooted in our culture or a discussion navigating how something affects our culture. Those 2 dudes talking in the video you posted weren't discussing this in a way that brought it back to black culture. That was just a DA discussion featuring 2 black dudes.

I'm don't mean this to come off as me being the thread police. Perhaps I shouldn't have even said why is this black culture...should have just stuck to this being a societal issue.

 

[maq25060]

Whenever you do ANYTHING that blatantly harms someone else, you are doing it because you feel you have the right to do it.

Agree to disagre.