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Famous Black Freethinkers/Atheists:

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Famous Black Freethinkers Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 @ 17:39:00 PST by infidelguy

We would like to thank the American Atheists for their large contribution to this page as well as other contributors.

Suggested Listening:

Black Freethought in the early 1900's to 1950's. - Mike Estes
Belief in the Black Community - Norm Allen Jr.

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Hubert Henry Harrison - The Black Socrates

A. Philip Randolph - "We consider prayer as nothing more than a fervent wish; consequently the merit and worth of a prayer depend upon what the fervent wish is."

Bayard Rustin - [font=Times New Roman, serif]Principal organizer of the March on Washington in 1963. He was openly gay, anti-communistic, a socialist, a civil rights activist and also a freethinker[/font]

J. A. Rogers - "The slogan of the Negro devotee is: Take the world but give me Jesus, and the white man strikes an eager bargain with him."

George S. Schuyler - "On the horizon loom a growing number of iconoclasts and Atheists, young black [sic] men and women who can read, think, and ask questions, and who impertinently demand to know why Negroes should revere a God who permits them to be lynched, jim-crowed and disfranchised."

John G. Jackson - The family minister once asked John G. Jackson when he was small, "Who made you?" After some thought he replied from his own realization, "I don’t know."

John Henrik Clarke - "As a grade school child in Columbus, Georgia, Clarke recalled inventing notes from local white people to allow his access to library books in his quest for knowledge."

Yosef ben-Jochannan - "The churches can’t help the people when the chips are down because their interest is with the power structure."

Bobby E. Wright - "Guess what you talk about when you go to church? Everything but what to do, you talk about some God that nobody ever did find."

John Ragland - Chauncey Bell Herbert Brown Ken Hamblin Walter E. Hawkins

James Forman - Civil Rights Activist

Lorraine Hansberry - Playwright known for her drama, "A Raisin in The Sun". FFRF Mention

Butterfly McQueen - Maid in MGM's 1939's Gone with The Wind.“As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Dame Theory

Famous Black Freethinkers/Atheists:

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Famous Black Freethinkers Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 @ 17:39:00 PST by infidelguy

We would like to thank the American Atheists for their large contribution to this page as well as other contributors.

Suggested Listening:

Black Freethought in the early 1900's to 1950's. - Mike Estes
Belief in the Black Community - Norm Allen Jr.

TOP



Hubert Henry Harrison - The Black Socrates

A. Philip Randolph - "We consider prayer as nothing more than a fervent wish; consequently the merit and worth of a prayer depend upon what the fervent wish is."

Bayard Rustin - [font=Times New Roman, serif]Principal organizer of the March on Washington in 1963. He was openly gay, anti-communistic, a socialist, a civil rights activist and also a freethinker[/font]

J. A. Rogers - "The slogan of the Negro devotee is: Take the world but give me Jesus, and the white man strikes an eager bargain with him."

George S. Schuyler - "On the horizon loom a growing number of iconoclasts and Atheists, young black [sic] men and women who can read, think, and ask questions, and who impertinently demand to know why Negroes should revere a God who permits them to be lynched, jim-crowed and disfranchised."

John G. Jackson - The family minister once asked John G. Jackson when he was small, "Who made you?" After some thought he replied from his own realization, "I don’t know."

John Henrik Clarke - "As a grade school child in Columbus, Georgia, Clarke recalled inventing notes from local white people to allow his access to library books in his quest for knowledge."

Yosef ben-Jochannan - "The churches can’t help the people when the chips are down because their interest is with the power structure."

Bobby E. Wright - "Guess what you talk about when you go to church? Everything but what to do, you talk about some God that nobody ever did find."

John Ragland - Chauncey Bell Herbert Brown Ken Hamblin Walter E. Hawkins

James Forman - Civil Rights Activist

Lorraine Hansberry - Playwright known for her drama, "A Raisin in The Sun". FFRF Mention

Butterfly McQueen - Maid in MGM's 1939's Gone with The Wind.“As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion.

 

[cjdynasty]

Originally Posted by ElderWatsonDiggs

Paul Robeson...the TRUE Renaissance Man.  Phi Beta Kappa (Rutgers), Pro Athlete/College Athlete (All-America in Football) (Played in the early NFL), Thespian (actor), Lawyer (Columbia Law School), World Traveler(Russia, Spain), Activist.

How this man is not considered one of the best examples of a black man that has ever lived escapes me. He proves that it is possible to be a man of many pursuits.

CJ Dynasty understands why I typed this in this color. Y'all have a good one in the midst.

00000-Six to this GOOD Brother.  I agree, and appreciate this EWD!  Hands down one of my favorite bruhs!

 

[cjdynasty]

Originally Posted by ElderWatsonDiggs

Paul Robeson...the TRUE Renaissance Man.  Phi Beta Kappa (Rutgers), Pro Athlete/College Athlete (All-America in Football) (Played in the early NFL), Thespian (actor), Lawyer (Columbia Law School), World Traveler(Russia, Spain), Activist.

How this man is not considered one of the best examples of a black man that has ever lived escapes me. He proves that it is possible to be a man of many pursuits.

CJ Dynasty understands why I typed this in this color. Y'all have a good one in the midst.

00000-Six to this GOOD Brother.  I agree, and appreciate this EWD!  Hands down one of my favorite bruhs!

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Dame Theory

Famous Black Freethinkers/Atheists:

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Famous Black Freethinkers Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 @ 17:39:00 PST by infidelguy

We would like to thank the American Atheists for their large contribution to this page as well as other contributors.

Suggested Listening:

Black Freethought in the early 1900's to 1950's. - Mike Estes
Belief in the Black Community - Norm Allen Jr.

TOP



Hubert Henry Harrison - The Black Socrates

A. Philip Randolph - "We consider prayer as nothing more than a fervent wish; consequently the merit and worth of a prayer depend upon what the fervent wish is."

Bayard Rustin - [font=Times New Roman, serif]Principal organizer of the March on Washington in 1963. He was openly gay, anti-communistic, a socialist, a civil rights activist and also a freethinker[/font]

J. A. Rogers - "The slogan of the Negro devotee is: Take the world but give me Jesus, and the white man strikes an eager bargain with him."

George S. Schuyler - "On the horizon loom a growing number of iconoclasts and Atheists, young black [sic] men and women who can read, think, and ask questions, and who impertinently demand to know why Negroes should revere a God who permits them to be lynched, jim-crowed and disfranchised."

John G. Jackson - The family minister once asked John G. Jackson when he was small, "Who made you?" After some thought he replied from his own realization, "I don’t know."

John Henrik Clarke - "As a grade school child in Columbus, Georgia, Clarke recalled inventing notes from local white people to allow his access to library books in his quest for knowledge."

Yosef ben-Jochannan - "The churches can’t help the people when the chips are down because their interest is with the power structure."

Bobby E. Wright - "Guess what you talk about when you go to church? Everything but what to do, you talk about some God that nobody ever did find."

John Ragland - Chauncey Bell Herbert Brown Ken Hamblin Walter E. Hawkins

James Forman - Civil Rights Activist

Lorraine Hansberry - Playwright known for her drama, "A Raisin in The Sun". FFRF Mention

Butterfly McQueen - Maid in MGM's 1939's Gone with The Wind.“As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion.

 

[gottabdashoes]

Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

 

[gottabdashoes]

Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

 

[cjdynasty]

Charles Hamilton Houston. Easily, my favorite African American in history. As an attorney, he (even above Bro. Justice Thurgood Marshall) was my single most influential decision to follow in the profession. Although he is not as popular as many others, this man was an integral part of the Civil Rights movement. Nicknamed "The Man Who Killed Jim Crowe", Houston was responsible for every case that went before the Supreme Court, challenging the "separate but equally doctrine". He is the one that discovered Bro. Justice Thurgood Marshall and taught him everything he knew.

Houston was the Rev. Bro. MLK Jr. of the legal profession. He tactfully engineered a lawsuit scheme that allowed for Plessy v. Fergueson to be overturn.  Houston caravan around the south with his team, filing lawsuits and winning cases in order to set up the proper precedent to get to the Supreme Court.

Good Brother Charles Hamilton Houston, Esq., I salute you for standing up for something bigger than you. Thanks for being an inspiration for me and many other attorneys across the country. 00000000006' !!!

"I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees." - Charles Hamilton Houston, Esq.

 

[cjdynasty]

Charles Hamilton Houston. Easily, my favorite African American in history. As an attorney, he (even above Bro. Justice Thurgood Marshall) was my single most influential decision to follow in the profession. Although he is not as popular as many others, this man was an integral part of the Civil Rights movement. Nicknamed "The Man Who Killed Jim Crowe", Houston was responsible for every case that went before the Supreme Court, challenging the "separate but equally doctrine". He is the one that discovered Bro. Justice Thurgood Marshall and taught him everything he knew.

Houston was the Rev. Bro. MLK Jr. of the legal profession. He tactfully engineered a lawsuit scheme that allowed for Plessy v. Fergueson to be overturn.  Houston caravan around the south with his team, filing lawsuits and winning cases in order to set up the proper precedent to get to the Supreme Court.

Good Brother Charles Hamilton Houston, Esq., I salute you for standing up for something bigger than you. Thanks for being an inspiration for me and many other attorneys across the country. 00000000006' !!!

"I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees." - Charles Hamilton Houston, Esq.

 

[thegoldenchild]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

 

[thegoldenchild]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

My NT brethren, tell me what Leon Trotsky and Malcolm X have in common.

?

Self determination.

All this debating has meaning to me. I can't live my life by another mans rules that are designed specifically to subordinate the masses, and my people in particular. Trotsky was a disciple of Lenin/Marxists theory which supports the dialectical process of history that inevitably leads to the other-throw of the capitalist ruling elite.

Trotsky was the revolutionary who realized the position of African Americans in the USA. Trotsky concluded that by self-determination and succeeding from a system that has fed us nothing but poison, we would become the vanguard party of the international proletariat revolution, the first domino to fall.

Malcolm was a proponent of black nationalism for this reason. Not for reverse-racist, supremacist reasons like you, Anton, have been trying so hard to throw upon our black consciousness movement. This movement is only gaining influence as the dialect of history is manifesting itself with every passing moment.

We have been reduced to the ****tiest property this country has to offer since antiquity of the United States, but the illusions are fading and one is starting to develop a greater sense of who is positive and who is negative. The government has been trying to stop this from happening (1960s-70s) so this is NOT a secret. Although the establishment now is doing it's best to mask it as such.

This is why Malcolm was critical of MLK's  passive ideology. Martin only proved half the point for us. Look at how the original founders of this country built a comfortable community/systems for themselves while exploiting the masses, including their own people, with us black americans embodying the struggle of the true essence of what it means to be American.

I'm tired of compromising like I have been my whole life. It's time for us to seize our destiny and become.

lol.....i like the term "reverse racism". It's futzing absurd now that i think about it. you're either racist or you're not, no such thing as reverse racism.

anyhow let's post more great African Americans.


random fact...my mom was the first female plastic surgeon in west africa

bourgeois intellectuals like yourself are in the middle. You can choose to educate those subordinated with the truth, or continue your path of consumption and illusion which is based on the degradations of Africa, Asian and Latin America.

I don't respect migrants to this country who aren't fulfilling their responsibility of the real American dream. I can sense the defensiveness in your own position because you benefit from a system of exploitation.

Tell your mom to take her PLASTIC surgery to one of these ugly people who find nothing substantial in vituous activity.

Now you wanna get all cool and make your little black history thread. %*## you. You have no experience with our history and have only expressed discontent for our future.

Anyhow keep mom dukes out of this, you have no idea what she went through to raise 3 successful children as a single mother. She's my hero

When she moved here she had to restart residency and is currently an internist if it makes you feel better. My oldest memory of her in Nigeria is her fixing a man's fullbody 3rd degree burns and a lady that got shot in the face.. So nah, she was not the 90210 type plastic surgeon.


my dude just post black people who inspire you and keep in moving.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

My NT brethren, tell me what Leon Trotsky and Malcolm X have in common.

?

Self determination.

All this debating has meaning to me. I can't live my life by another mans rules that are designed specifically to subordinate the masses, and my people in particular. Trotsky was a disciple of Lenin/Marxists theory which supports the dialectical process of history that inevitably leads to the other-throw of the capitalist ruling elite.

Trotsky was the revolutionary who realized the position of African Americans in the USA. Trotsky concluded that by self-determination and succeeding from a system that has fed us nothing but poison, we would become the vanguard party of the international proletariat revolution, the first domino to fall.

Malcolm was a proponent of black nationalism for this reason. Not for reverse-racist, supremacist reasons like you, Anton, have been trying so hard to throw upon our black consciousness movement. This movement is only gaining influence as the dialect of history is manifesting itself with every passing moment.

We have been reduced to the ****tiest property this country has to offer since antiquity of the United States, but the illusions are fading and one is starting to develop a greater sense of who is positive and who is negative. The government has been trying to stop this from happening (1960s-70s) so this is NOT a secret. Although the establishment now is doing it's best to mask it as such.

This is why Malcolm was critical of MLK's  passive ideology. Martin only proved half the point for us. Look at how the original founders of this country built a comfortable community/systems for themselves while exploiting the masses, including their own people, with us black americans embodying the struggle of the true essence of what it means to be American.

I'm tired of compromising like I have been my whole life. It's time for us to seize our destiny and become.

lol.....i like the term "reverse racism". It's futzing absurd now that i think about it. you're either racist or you're not, no such thing as reverse racism.

anyhow let's post more great African Americans.


random fact...my mom was the first female plastic surgeon in west africa

bourgeois intellectuals like yourself are in the middle. You can choose to educate those subordinated with the truth, or continue your path of consumption and illusion which is based on the degradations of Africa, Asian and Latin America.

I don't respect migrants to this country who aren't fulfilling their responsibility of the real American dream. I can sense the defensiveness in your own position because you benefit from a system of exploitation.

Tell your mom to take her PLASTIC surgery to one of these ugly people who find nothing substantial in vituous activity.

Now you wanna get all cool and make your little black history thread. %*## you. You have no experience with our history and have only expressed discontent for our future.

Anyhow keep mom dukes out of this, you have no idea what she went through to raise 3 successful children as a single mother. She's my hero

When she moved here she had to restart residency and is currently an internist if it makes you feel better. My oldest memory of her in Nigeria is her fixing a man's fullbody 3rd degree burns and a lady that got shot in the face.. So nah, she was not the 90210 type plastic surgeon.


my dude just post black people who inspire you and keep in moving.

 

[bijald0331]

 

[bijald0331]

 

[gottabdashoes]

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

Exactly! lol Things like this are ridiculous. Celebrating because you're a certain "skin color" that you had absolutely no control over, EVER.

 

[gottabdashoes]

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

Exactly! lol Things like this are ridiculous. Celebrating because you're a certain "skin color" that you had absolutely no control over, EVER.

 

[cjdynasty]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]supposed[/color] to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

Thats the key word.  Unfortunately, for 300+ years we were NOT equal.  Thus, this dedication of this month is a small remedy for trying to correct some of our country's past wrongs.  I mean we were counted as 3/5's of a person in the founding documentation of this country.  Cleary, there was/is a need.

I know that you will counter with the argument, "That was then and this is now".  But this is the perfect definition of social stratification.  When you give someone an advantage for 300 plus years, they will always be a leg up.  Although it appears that we are equal on paper, you still have to account for the generation effect that this discrimination caused.  For example, although everyone can go to college now, there is still an inherent disadvantage for African Americans.  There white peers may be 3 or 4 generation college student, doctor, lawyer, dentist, etc.  However, an African American would probably have 1 or 2 at most, and thats even a stretch.  Its simply a situation where opportunity was not there and now, even though its present, the past still affects the ability to take advantage of the current opportunities.  Essentially, its like running the 1600 meter race, but starting the dominant race already on lap 2 or 3 while the inferior race has to start in your traditional starting block.  Same race, same track, different positions.

 

[cjdynasty]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]supposed[/color] to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

Thats the key word.  Unfortunately, for 300+ years we were NOT equal.  Thus, this dedication of this month is a small remedy for trying to correct some of our country's past wrongs.  I mean we were counted as 3/5's of a person in the founding documentation of this country.  Cleary, there was/is a need.

I know that you will counter with the argument, "That was then and this is now".  But this is the perfect definition of social stratification.  When you give someone an advantage for 300 plus years, they will always be a leg up.  Although it appears that we are equal on paper, you still have to account for the generation effect that this discrimination caused.  For example, although everyone can go to college now, there is still an inherent disadvantage for African Americans.  There white peers may be 3 or 4 generation college student, doctor, lawyer, dentist, etc.  However, an African American would probably have 1 or 2 at most, and thats even a stretch.  Its simply a situation where opportunity was not there and now, even though its present, the past still affects the ability to take advantage of the current opportunities.  Essentially, its like running the 1600 meter race, but starting the dominant race already on lap 2 or 3 while the inferior race has to start in your traditional starting block.  Same race, same track, different positions.

 

[elderwatsondiggs]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

Exactly! lol Things like this are ridiculous. Celebrating because you're a certain "skin color" that you had absolutely no control over, EVER.

Well if anything the Freedom of Speech applies to these statements

 

[elderwatsondiggs]

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

Exactly! lol Things like this are ridiculous. Celebrating because you're a certain "skin color" that you had absolutely no control over, EVER.

Well if anything the Freedom of Speech applies to these statements

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

um we're proud of the accomplishments made by black people.....
especially because for years we were told by others that we wouldn't amount to %*#+ as a race.

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by TheGoldenChild

Originally Posted by GottaBdaShoes


Not trying to bring negativity in here but.. who gives a crap what color you are? We're all supposed to be equal. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Giving a month a title to recognize the achievements of people based on the color of their skin. lol

   this! besides, what are you proud of? for black? did you have anything to do with you being black?

um we're proud of the accomplishments made by black people.....
especially because for years we were told by others that we wouldn't amount to %*#+ as a race.

 

[gottabdashoes]

The accomplishments are fine. That's wonderful. As Americans, we should be proud of achievements made by other Americans. What does being black have to do with it? It's in the past, let it go and move on. Besides, none of the wrongs were done to you. People are screwed up and living in the past. Once they let this color barrier thing go, all of us might live more peaceful. It's too bad I won't be around in a couple hundred years when our brains evolve and get past this ignorance.

 

[gottabdashoes]

The accomplishments are fine. That's wonderful. As Americans, we should be proud of achievements made by other Americans. What does being black have to do with it? It's in the past, let it go and move on. Besides, none of the wrongs were done to you. People are screwed up and living in the past. Once they let this color barrier thing go, all of us might live more peaceful. It's too bad I won't be around in a couple hundred years when our brains evolve and get past this ignorance.