Black upper class

[gordon gekko 979]

Originally Posted by Grizzlyboy

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by Grizzlyboy

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by Grizzlyboy

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name

You just gave me a reason to use the ignore post button. Thanks.

Griz, how do u feel on this subject? The way wealthy blacks treat poor blacks?

I believe it is worse than any other culture or race. We fight amongst ourselves. I don't believe in Uncle Toms or sellouts. What I do believe in though is the fact that their are people out there that forget what our purposes are in life. Previously we looked out for each other. We would fight for entry and when we got in, we would hold the door open for others. Now we are so worried about self that we forget that others need opportunities as well. But its like crabs in a bucket. We hate to see someone accomplish success ahead of us.

This point was made before but I will speak on it again. No matter how much money you have, white people and other races will think you are still below them.

Come on griz, although i agree racism does exist, i honestly believe, MOST, not all, but MOST people don't care what race you are, and rather your character. maybe i'm very naive, which i doubt, but that's how i feel.

griz, we should also issue the notion of acting white or selling out in the black community. Many people-not all, but many people, are believe in the idea that if you educate yourself and attempt to better yourself you're selling your blackness out. its such a shame

i have a black friend, who in his algebra 2 class, is constantly made fun of by his peers because he get's A. they're always like, "harry, you think you're smart or something?" Disgusting.

I am not sure what "Acting Black" is. I'm not sure where it came from. My granny has always said "No matter how much money you may have, you should still perform well in school, have manors, dress well, etc." For some idiotic reason we have been brainwashed to believe that low income, bad grades, broken English, etc is synonymous with being black. Its not. But I will say this, no matter what path one chooses in life, he/she should not be penalized for attempting to fit into a group that they choose.

PREACH. [denzel] my man, my man [denzel]. in all seriousness though, gritz will i see you at jack n jill and the boule conferences in 15-20years?

 

[lrrr]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

 

[gordon gekko 979]

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

LRR, why are things the way they are? in terms of black america

 

[lrrr]

i dont concern myself with "why"...im more interested in "how"

 

[cjdynasty]

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

I concur. And these names are just the tip of the iceberg. AKA Anthony, you cant sound more ignorant.

 

[fams]

CharmCityKid wrote:

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"uppity" black folks are fools, period. i say this because they truly believe they are better than "normal" or less fortunate black folks solely because of their wealth or what have you.

but the main reason why they are fools is because they really believe that their white counterparts accept them as equals, when in fact, in most cases they are not.
Who said white's are "counterparts", or set the bar for success first of all? As far as wealthy "high class" goes, MiddleEasterners and Saudi are in a class that Caucasians could never reach. I'm talking Billions richer. I hate brainwashed people with this frame of mind...youthink a three piece suit, cocktail parties and a German import makes you high class?
Your statement is GENERALIZING whites as the symbol of success..

Not to make this thread racially controversial, but Whites can "front" their way to the top...and been doing it for centuries. Whites are minoritiesbut they're social chameleons for survival purposes. That's why even on the smallest scale like riding a NYC subway train a financialy troubled middleaged white women and carry herself like she being "coveted" by every black, hispanic and asian on the car...THEY ARE BREED TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES AS"COVETED" FOR OR WORTH SOMETHING (It's a defense mechanism)....

Another example "gentrification", they purchase property in "low income" areas and"PRETEND" it's a new "up-and-coming" hot spot....so yo call your friend "in high places" and get the property value up...

Some of you really need to unlearn, what you think you know.....Like I said on the 3rd of 4th page, an African American can never be "uppity", itjust effects a non-black psychi to see them not "humble" or in need...America's success has always been measured by how far you live away from"the ghetto" or "blacks", so when you see a wealthy African American he looks out of place.

 

[gordon gekko 979]

Originally Posted by FaMs

CharmCityKid wrote:

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"uppity" black folks are fools, period. i say this because they truly believe they are better than "normal" or less fortunate black folks solely because of their wealth or what have you.

but the main reason why they are fools is because they really believe that their white counterparts accept them as equals, when in fact, in most cases they are not.

Who said white's are "counterparts", or set the bar for success first of all? As far as wealthy "high class" goes, Middle Easterners and Saudi are in a class that Caucasians could never reach. I'm talking Billions richer. I hate brainwashed people with this frame of mind...you think a three piece suit, cocktail parties and a German import makes you high class?
Your statement is GENERALIZING whites as the symbol of success..

Not to make this thread racially controversial, but Whites can "front" their way to the top...and been doing it for centuries. Whites are minorities but they're social chameleons for survival purposes. That's why even on the smallest scale like riding a NYC subway train a financialy troubled middle aged white women and carry herself like she being "coveted" by every black, hispanic and asian on the car...THEY ARE BREED TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES AS "COVETED" FOR OR WORTH SOMETHING (It's a defense mechanism)....

Another example "gentrification", they purchase property in "low income" areas and "PRETEND" it's a new "up-and-coming" hot spot....so yo call your friend "in high places" and get the property value up...

Some of you really need to unlearn, what you think you know.....Like I said on the 3rd of 4th page, an African American can never be "uppity", it just effects a non-black psychi to see them not "humble" or in need...America's success has always been measured by how far you live away from "the ghetto" or "blacks", so when you see a wealthy African American he looks out of place.


I agree, and thats what it comes down to. Keep in mind fams, a lot of the posters in this thread were brought up to feel like a victim, so youcan't really blame them. And you were dead on, when you talked about wealthy blacks not having to be humble and thats why it boils down to.

 

[aka anthony]

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth inthe black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

 

[trueshotaura]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth in the black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

cuz white people spend money on subways and quizno franchises and we cop 7 series' and mercedes'

 

[aka anthony]

Exactly

 

[gordon gekko 979]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Exactly

Anthony, how do u feel about these black mentioned in this book then? Im very curious

 

[gordon gekko 979]

yo NT, this will shock you. i was looking this book up on Facebook and look at this group. I'm shocked.


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=7530d498e70540b5fc63c647e2a6c2fd&gid=2213689430&ref=search

 

[mytoasterspeak]

People are what they are and it's shaped from childhood. If you're black, and went school to school with all white kids, you might have a caucasiantone to your voice. If your parents raised you uppity, chances are your gonna be uppity if you don't break yourself of that mindset. These things apply toboth white and black. The problem is, people who shape their attitude based upon how much money they have. This is when people start to be called uppity andsnobbish. A lot of humbleness is missing in our society and that's why it's run a muck with aholes. I one day aim to have my money classified as upperclass, but I always want my attitude to be classified by my person, and a lot of times this gets turned around in society. Unfortunately, and this must besaid, it's perpetuated by white society. Also unfortunately, a lot of blacks who do reach upper class status fall into the trap of trying to "fit inwith the jones", when really, they don't want you, cause people don't really respect new money, especially blacks with new money. I guess a thingto remember is you should build up your money, don't let your money build you. I'm black if that matters.

 

[gordon gekko 979]

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

People are what they are and it's shaped from childhood. If you're black, and went school to school with all white kids, you might have a caucasian tone to your voice. If your parents raised you uppity, chances are your gonna be uppity if you don't break yourself of that mindset. These things apply to both white and black. The problem is, people who shape their attitude based upon how much money they have. This is when people start to be called uppity and snobbish. A lot of humbleness is missing in our society and that's why it's run a muck with aholes. I one day aim to have my money classified as upper class, but I always want my attitude to be classified by my person, and a lot of times this gets turned around in society. Unfortunately, and this must be said, it's perpetuated by white society. Also unfortunately, a lot of blacks who do reach upper class status fall into the trap of trying to "fit in with the jones", when really, they don't want you, cause people don't really respect new money, especially blacks with new money. I guess a thing to remember is you should build up your money, don't let your money build you. I'm black if that matters.

so whites are racist? isn't racist to generalize a whole group of people?

this was the same attitude during the election on NT, whites will never let ablack man be president, but they proved u wrong. it appears NT's views on whites is very wrong and troubling. especially from a group that hates to begeneralized themselves.

 

[i drink your milkshake]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth in the black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

just because they're not Bill Gates wealthy doesn't mean they're not wealthy---$%!.


I do agree as a people, we don't have the wealth that we should. For instance, we should have beauty care products hemmed up

And back in the day, if we was for real, the agricultural sector shoulda been ours as well. I also think we should have the entertainment (sports and music)hemmed up. Now we I say hemmed up, I don't mean the people sweatin', I mean the people that's writing checks for the people's that'ssweatin'.

 

[fams]

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak

People are what they are and it's shaped from childhood. If you're black, and went school to school with all white kids, you might have a caucasian tone to your voice. If your parents raised you uppity, chances are your gonna be uppity if you don't break yourself of that mindset. These things apply to both white and black. The problem is, people who shape their attitude based upon how much money they have. This is when people start to be called uppity and snobbish. A lot of humbleness is missing in our society and that's why it's run a muck with aholes. I one day aim to have my money classified as upper class, but I always want my attitude to be classified by my person, and a lot of times this gets turned around in society. Unfortunately, and this must be said, it's perpetuated by white society. Also unfortunately, a lot of blacks who do reach upper class status fall into the trap of trying to "fit in with the jones", when really, they don't want you, cause people don't really respect new money, especially blacks with new money. I guess a thing to remember is you should build up your money, don't let your money build you. I'm black if that matters.

so whites are racist? isn't racist to generalize a whole group of people?

this was the same attitude during the election on NT, whites will never let a black man be president, but they proved u wrong. it appears NT's views on whites is very wrong and troubling. especially from a group that hates to be generalized themselves.

GOT EM'

 

[mytoasterspeak]

I didn't say anything about racism, this is a discussion about class and that's what I was referring to. Theres not a single part of my brain thatthink all whites are racist. Kick rocks patna.

 

[aka anthony]

Originally Posted by I Drink Your Milkshake

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth in the black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

just because they're not Bill Gates wealthy doesn't mean they're not wealthy---$%!.

I know, but out of roughly 800 billionaires, 5 are african american. Numbers don't lie.

 

[i drink your milkshake]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by I Drink Your Milkshake

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth in the black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

just because they're not Bill Gates wealthy doesn't mean they're not wealthy---$%!.

I know, but out of roughly 800 billionaires, 5 are african american. Numbers don't lie.

and they also RARELY tell a story accurately. Anyways, link to the list? I'm curious.....


and I hope you not a black man talkin' like this

 

[gordon gekko 979]

^lolollololol.
So my t, why wouldn't whites accept a black person who is also in their same class? Unless they were racier, don't play stupid

 

[aka anthony]

The list was already posted in the stuff you quoted. More than half of them weren't even billionaires.

"According to the 2009 Forbes International Billionaire List, Oprah Winfrey with a net worth of $2.7 billion is the richest black person in the world, andwas once the world's only black billionaire. Close behind is Nigeria's Aliko Dangote with $2.5 billion, Nigerian petroleum executive Femi Otedola with$1.6 billion. and South African gold magnate, Patrice Motsepe with $1.3 billion. Dangote and Motsepe are the first black Africans to ever appear on the Forbesinternational rich list, however, Mobutu, the Congolese president, and Sani Abacha, the Nigerian military leader, were probably billionaires when they werealive but Forbes could never confirm this (according to Forbes magazine's Kerry Dolan)."

 

[fams]

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Lrrr

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Originally Posted by Gordon Gekko 979

Originally Posted by AKA Anthony

Wealth and black don't belong in the same sentence

Ignorance.


And kix, i wouldn't call them sellouts, because i know many west indian/african immigrants who harbor the same sentiment about african americans.

Fact. How many wealthy black people can you name?

Bob Johnson
Oprah Winfrey
Aliko Dangote
Robert L. Johnson
Reginald F. Lewis

stop failing

"I ain't talking Oprah, I'm talking Bill Gates." Roughly 800 billionaires exist and you can name 5 that are black

There is NO wealth in the black community. Chris Rock said it best, I would embed the vid but I don't feel like getting banned.

, First off Hitler...the topic is UPPER CLASS and according to thecensus One Million USD constitutes as "rich" and upper class.
Second while you're running your penis landing strip about naming 5 AFRICAN AMERICAN BILLIONAIRES here:

1.Mohammed Al Amoudi
2. Mo Ibrahim
3.Michael Lee-Chin
4.Femi Otedola
5.Patrice Motsepe

BTW, most of them were in Forbes which is an "accredited source" meaning information was checked and verified by 3 different sources...so don'tbother arguing.
I hate "race politics" on NT because the African Americans on this board never draw first blood but are forced to look like aholes for defendingthemselves.

P.S. notice Oprah wasn't listed

 

[i drink your milkshake]

nah, I mean the LIST of the 800 billionaires.

 

[aka anthony]

Hitler? Instead of getting upset over the fact that blacks have no wealth, why don't you stop typing meaningless replies and do something about it.

Originally Posted by I Drink Your Milkshake

nah, I mean the LIST of the 800 billionaires.

http://www.telegraph.co.u...s-slumps-by-a-third.html

I was off by 7

 

[i drink your milkshake]

nah, I mean the LIST of the 800 billionaires.