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Man. I slightly see his point, but is it really that hard to check the page before if it's not on that one? Like, this is as first world of an issue as it gets![]()
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Man. I slightly see his point, but is it really that hard to check the page before if it's not on that one? Like, this is as first world of an issue as it gets![]()
Classic 20 post per page >
Classic 20 post per page >
Op make a poll.
Oh, the entitlement!
And there's your answer. Post numbers are absolute, not relative - and, as an added benefit, they aren't approximate. Saying "somewhere on page 20" is a bit like telling a delivery person to leave your package "somewhere on Evergreen terrace." Asking users to locate content on a specific page when an EXACT post number is available is a completely unnecessary chore.In the threads that I manage, I direct people to post numbers now as opposed to page counts.
There's no advantage to "confusion," but let's not confuse a "posts per page" setting with "confusion." It's not the posts per page setting that's creating confusion; it's the practice of telling thread participants to "go look on page X."I'm not complaining. I'm not *****ing about this. Making the posts per page standard wouldn't hurt the content or anything. I just fail to see the advantage of confusion.gotta give meth credit, id be like screw this job
People forget, this is an "option" that users were BEGGING us for on the old platform. We were constantly being asked to increase the number of posts per page. Now, we give people a "best of both worlds" solution and there's still complaint - even when a user-driven solution is available.Dude is right.
Whatever the preference is there's no advantage to this being a setting that can be changed.
It's not always good to give people options.
Meth, thank you for this thankless job that you do.
It is appreciated.
Classic 20 post per page >
In the threads that I manage, I direct people to post numbers now as opposed to page counts.
And there's your answer. Post numbers are absolute, not relative - and, as an added benefit, they aren't approximate. Saying "somewhere on page 20" is a bit like telling a delivery person to leave your package "somewhere on Evergreen terrace." Asking users to locate content on a specific page when an EXACT post number is available is a completely unnecessary chore.
Each post has a fixed post number. Click on it or copy it, and you have a direct link to that exact post.
Sometimes, it makes more sense to ask users to adapt to the software than the inverse. We have a new platform with many benefits over the previous system. I don't like the idea of rolling back one of those benefits because certain thread starters are still stuck using old conventions from an antiquated forum site that neither we nor anyone of consequence still uses.
At root, this isn't a software problem. It's a behavioral problem.
If you see a thread where the author is directing users to a particular page rather than a particular post - be the change you want to see. Send them a PM and say, "directing users to a specific page is imprecise and confusing, since we can all have different posts per page settings. Why not direct them to a post number instead? It's just as easy, and it's more accurate for everyone?"
Eventually, this new, superior method will become the norm and the problem will be solved without asking everyone to forfeit their ability to customize the forum display to their liking.
gotta give meth credit, id be like screw this job
I'm not complaining. I'm not *****ing about this. Making the posts per page standard wouldn't hurt the content or anything. I just fail to see the advantage of confusion.
There's no advantage to "confusion," but let's not confuse a "posts per page" setting with "confusion." It's not the posts per page setting that's creating confusion; it's the practice of telling thread participants to "go look on page X."
There's no reason to keep that convention when we have absolute post numbers. None. There is a considerable benefit to offering users the ability to customize the number of posts per page to their liking.
Dude is right.
Whatever the preference is there's no advantage to this being a setting that can be changed.
It's not always good to give people options.
Meth, thank you for this thankless job that you do.
It is appreciated.
People forget, this is an "option" that users were BEGGING us for on the old platform. We were constantly being asked to increase the number of posts per page. Now, we give people a "best of both worlds" solution and there's still complaint - even when a user-driven solution is available.
The advantage there is pretty obvious.
Let's remember, too, that giving users the option to show 50 posts per page costs us money. We're giving users twice the content with the same number of ads. How this is interpreted as anything less than a gift is beyond me.
I'm glad people seem to appreciate the impossibility of our position. Hundreds of users can ask us for something over the years and when we finally deliver, we get people asking "Why did you do that? It was fine the way it was!"
