Chris Hansen Appreciation

Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

NT, where the Big Bad Media is the villain, while pedophiles are the real victims.

no ones saying the pedos are victims.

however looking back at how to catch a predator i feel it was handled poorly and in poor taste.

if you watch the show, you can tell that some of the people they catch aren't all there in the head.  besides prison time, they need serious help.   a guy that got busted once already, was awaitting trial for the first case and got caught again.  i watched that episode and i could tell the guy that got busted wasn't all there in the head.

alot of the people busted had no prior criminal record and made the stupidest mistake of their life.   my issue is that this 15 minutes of infamy they had is going to hang over them for the rest of their life.  even if it was a one time thing, they pay their debt to society and get whatever help they need,  no one is going to forgot about their incident which was shown on tv for the world to see.  the whole neighborhood is going to know that guy as the dateline pedo.  their parents, wife, and kids have to deal with verbal abuse regularly which is wrong to me.   they can move to a different area but it's all but inevitable people are going to find out about what happened and they have to deal with that all over again.   after they get outta jail, what job is going to hire them,  it would be such a bad look for any company if they hired a guy that was on how to catch a predator that most places of employment wouldn't have anything to do with them.

like i said i feel the pedos should be punished of course, but i also feel a good chunk of them need serious help.

i just disagree with destroying their name and ruining the lifes of their close family members for tv ratings.    cover their faces and withhold their names on the show, or just do these sting operations without the tv cameras around.
I completely understand where your coming from in regards to them needing help. But what would you think if the show had not been there and the potential for 20-30 kids being sexually abused? or better yet tell me this because obviously not many people in here have delt with this issue first hand. Tell me how you think a perpetrator who violated your young sister or neice should be handled?. Would you really care how they are handled? honestly? 
 
Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by Mac4167

Originally Posted by LyonBC1

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I'm sorry if you're a grown man, which 90% of those sick bastards were, trying to molest little boys and girls I have no sympathy for you at all.....idc if you seem to have "screws loose".....I agree chris hansen is a scumbag for cheating on his wife, but this show and the watchdog online surveillance people caught hundreds of these dumb*** men trying to prey on little girls smh at people claiming he was scum for helping catch these  so called "men", imagine if that was your kid on the internet though...

This, In reagards to the guy in the link, if he knew what he was doing was wrong, knew that he would get in serious trouble and was faced with exposure and decides to kill himself, who's fault is that? 
i understand where you guys are coming from don't get me wrong.

the guy that killed himself changed his mind never went to the house and backed out but chris hansen and the cops went to his house to expose him anyway.

they should be punished and in the case of the repeat offenders the book should be thrown at them, but in all seriousness if someone really isn't there mentally and they get busted TWICE  they need help and rehabilitation, not having their problems be exposed for the world to see.
But what we don't know is whether or not he was talking to multiple children or sending explicit photos or videos to the child, which is a federal offense. Ok I understand that maybe it was in bad taste for him to be entering the house with the police but the police has said on multiple airings of the show that had it not been for the show, they would have never been able to find, prosecute and expose the ones that are preying on the young. 
 
Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

NT, where the Big Bad Media is the villain, while pedophiles are the real victims.

no ones saying the pedos are victims.

however looking back at how to catch a predator i feel it was handled poorly and in poor taste.

if you watch the show, you can tell that some of the people they catch aren't all there in the head.  besides prison time, they need serious help.   a guy that got busted once already, was awaitting trial for the first case and got caught again.  i watched that episode and i could tell the guy that got busted wasn't all there in the head.

alot of the people busted had no prior criminal record and made the stupidest mistake of their life.   my issue is that this 15 minutes of infamy they had is going to hang over them for the rest of their life.  even if it was a one time thing, they pay their debt to society and get whatever help they need,  no one is going to forgot about their incident which was shown on tv for the world to see.  the whole neighborhood is going to know that guy as the dateline pedo.  their parents, wife, and kids have to deal with verbal abuse regularly which is wrong to me.   they can move to a different area but it's all but inevitable people are going to find out about what happened and they have to deal with that all over again.   after they get outta jail, what job is going to hire them,  it would be such a bad look for any company if they hired a guy that was on how to catch a predator that most places of employment wouldn't have anything to do with them.

like i said i feel the pedos should be punished of course, but i also feel a good chunk of them need serious help.

i just disagree with destroying their name and ruining the lifes of their close family members for tv ratings.    cover their faces and withhold their names on the show, or just do these sting operations without the tv cameras around.
I can see feeling sympathy for their families, but you gotta admit whose at fault here....the show for exposing people who had every intent on having sex with a CHILD or the the "man" who was knowingly intending on chatting online with a kid. The dudes who did this are the ones who brought the situation about not being able to have a job and not being able to live near parks, schools, etc....they chose a path they knew was f'd up and they deserve alllll the consequences as a result....the show didn't ruin their life intentionally, they intentionally went on chatrooms knowing that it is illegal and disgusting and peverted, can't feel bad for them at all....they screwed over their own familites, how does a mom explain that %%% to their own kids? smh 
 
Originally Posted by Mac4167

Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

NT, where the Big Bad Media is the villain, while pedophiles are the real victims.

no ones saying the pedos are victims.

however looking back at how to catch a predator i feel it was handled poorly and in poor taste.

if you watch the show, you can tell that some of the people they catch aren't all there in the head.  besides prison time, they need serious help.   a guy that got busted once already, was awaitting trial for the first case and got caught again.  i watched that episode and i could tell the guy that got busted wasn't all there in the head.

alot of the people busted had no prior criminal record and made the stupidest mistake of their life.   my issue is that this 15 minutes of infamy they had is going to hang over them for the rest of their life.  even if it was a one time thing, they pay their debt to society and get whatever help they need,  no one is going to forgot about their incident which was shown on tv for the world to see.  the whole neighborhood is going to know that guy as the dateline pedo.  their parents, wife, and kids have to deal with verbal abuse regularly which is wrong to me.   they can move to a different area but it's all but inevitable people are going to find out about what happened and they have to deal with that all over again.   after they get outta jail, what job is going to hire them,  it would be such a bad look for any company if they hired a guy that was on how to catch a predator that most places of employment wouldn't have anything to do with them.

like i said i feel the pedos should be punished of course, but i also feel a good chunk of them need serious help.

i just disagree with destroying their name and ruining the lifes of their close family members for tv ratings.    cover their faces and withhold their names on the show, or just do these sting operations without the tv cameras around.
I completely understand where your coming from in regards to them needing help. But what would you think if the show had not been there and the potential for 20-30 kids being sexually abused? or better yet tell me this because obviously not many people in here have delt with this issue first hand. Tell me how you think a perpetrator who violated your young sister or neice should be handled?. Would you really care how they are handled? honestly? 

i would want them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.   to twist things around though, i think the show made perverts more discrete about how they do things now though.  perverts know it might be a trap because they watched dateline.

personally i hope they continue doing stings and setups like this but i would prefer they be more lowkey about it so that they can get more people.

still though, im against them being exposed on live tv because their wife, kids, and parents suffer for something they didn't do.  they should be punished properly but if they get the help they need and rehabilitation and have did their time and legitametly changed they shouldn't have to live with that mistake the rest of their life.
 
Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by Mac4167

Originally Posted by Rex Ryan


no ones saying the pedos are victims.

however looking back at how to catch a predator i feel it was handled poorly and in poor taste.

if you watch the show, you can tell that some of the people they catch aren't all there in the head.  besides prison time, they need serious help.   a guy that got busted once already, was awaitting trial for the first case and got caught again.  i watched that episode and i could tell the guy that got busted wasn't all there in the head.

alot of the people busted had no prior criminal record and made the stupidest mistake of their life.   my issue is that this 15 minutes of infamy they had is going to hang over them for the rest of their life.  even if it was a one time thing, they pay their debt to society and get whatever help they need,  no one is going to forgot about their incident which was shown on tv for the world to see.  the whole neighborhood is going to know that guy as the dateline pedo.  their parents, wife, and kids have to deal with verbal abuse regularly which is wrong to me.   they can move to a different area but it's all but inevitable people are going to find out about what happened and they have to deal with that all over again.   after they get outta jail, what job is going to hire them,  it would be such a bad look for any company if they hired a guy that was on how to catch a predator that most places of employment wouldn't have anything to do with them.

like i said i feel the pedos should be punished of course, but i also feel a good chunk of them need serious help.

i just disagree with destroying their name and ruining the lifes of their close family members for tv ratings.    cover their faces and withhold their names on the show, or just do these sting operations without the tv cameras around.
I completely understand where your coming from in regards to them needing help. But what would you think if the show had not been there and the potential for 20-30 kids being sexually abused? or better yet tell me this because obviously not many people in here have delt with this issue first hand. Tell me how you think a perpetrator who violated your young sister or neice should be handled?. Would you really care how they are handled? honestly? 

i would want them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.   to twist things around though, i think the show made perverts more discrete about how they do things now though.  perverts know it might be a trap because they watched dateline.

personally i hope they continue doing stings and setups like this but i would prefer they be more lowkey about it so that they can get more people.

still though, im against them being exposed on live tv because their wife, kids, and parents suffer for something they didn't do.  they should be punished properly but if they get the help they need and rehabilitation and have did their time and legitametly changed they shouldn't have to live with that mistake the rest of their life.
I agree with you bruh, I too believe they shouldn't televise the set-ups because it will deter many predators from going to houses therefor there running free. In regards to your earlier post about finding jobs and families, I don't think it really matters how there exposed because when they have to register as a sex offender, that alone will follow them forever.
 
Over time the thing turned into a sick perversion of gathering TV ratings... It was almost twisted at one point.

I agree with Rex Ryan and EddieHouse5

More should have been done to actually educate the public on the matters and show the rehabilitation process.

There was more focus on watching the show to see pedophiles get caught, rather than trying to deter pedophiles in the process. If I remember, some people had been caught who even saw the show...and that was supposed to be funny?

Anything beyond 1-2 seasons was enough.
 
Originally Posted by Rex Ryan

Originally Posted by Mac4167

Originally Posted by LyonBC1

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I'm sorry if you're a grown man, which 90% of those sick bastards were, trying to molest little boys and girls I have no sympathy for you at all.....idc if you seem to have "screws loose".....I agree chris hansen is a scumbag for cheating on his wife, but this show and the watchdog online surveillance people caught hundreds of these dumb*** men trying to prey on little girls smh at people claiming he was scum for helping catch these  so called "men", imagine if that was your kid on the internet though...

This, In reagards to the guy in the link, if he knew what he was doing was wrong, knew that he would get in serious trouble and was faced with exposure and decides to kill himself, who's fault is that? 
i understand where you guys are coming from don't get me wrong.

the guy that killed himself changed his mind never went to the house and backed out but chris hansen and the cops went to his house to expose him anyway.

they should be punished and in the case of the repeat offenders the book should be thrown at them, but in all seriousness if someone really isn't there mentally and they get busted TWICE  they need help and rehabilitation, not having their problems be exposed for the world to see.
I agree that there is a small minority of em who are not in the right mindstate, but 90% + of those dudes are just child predators and know they're messing up, but after the first time you get caught you need some sort of preventative help but I dont even know how to rehabilitate that...
 
Originally Posted by sillyputty

Over time the thing turned into a sick perversion of gathering TV ratings... It was almost twisted at one point.

I agree with Rex Ryan and EddieHouse5

More should have been done to actually educate the public on the matters and show the rehabilitation process.

There was more focus on watching the show to see pedophiles get caught, rather than trying to deter pedophiles in the process. If I remember, some people had been caught who even saw the show...and that was supposed to be funny?

Anything beyond 1-2 seasons was enough.
I believe that the way the show showcased the pedophiles was intended to educate the viewers. Although it was a unconventional way of doing so. Tell me, how are they suppose to handle these criminals? Imagine how many people were deterred from committing these acts as a result of watching the show. These people are committing felony offenses and know exactly what they are doing and in complete control of there destiny. Is it really different from any other reality show like cops, AMW, jail or prison show? I'll reiterate the same things over as before. What if the show was not on set? god, so many kids could have been molested and not a single damn would have been given. Its like were more concerned with the way these criminals are being extorted rather than the real issue at hand. The children.
 
Originally Posted by sillyputty

Over time the thing turned into a sick perversion of gathering TV ratings... It was almost twisted at one point.

I agree with Rex Ryan and EddieHouse5

More should have been done to actually educate the public on the matters and show the rehabilitation process.

There was more focus on watching the show to see pedophiles get caught, rather than trying to deter pedophiles in the process. If I remember, some people had been caught who even saw the show...and that was supposed to be funny?

Anything beyond 1-2 seasons was enough.
I think the show got canned bc they considered it entrapment in court, after a while...but  I just can't empathize with any individual who intends on preying on kids though....the show was geared to embarrasing these people but at the end of the day if they didn't log on to chatrooms tryin to have relations with little children nothing would've ever gone down....if anything you'd think the potential embarrassment of being on something like that would be enough to deter those people but I guess it wasn't 
 
Originally Posted by iYen
See i get what everyone's saying. Yes, they shed light and stopped sexual predators. Most of those men got what came to them but it was handled with professionalism (as professional as being displayed on national television can be). However, I can see how it can easily turn into an embarrassing and humiliating show with no rehab for anyone caught. The one special ed guy needed real help.One guy at 2:40 realized what he was doing was wrong the moment he stepped foot and before anything could happen said "I dont think i should be here." and i bet they both got got locked up regardless. From this video, chris hansen comes off as the hero because he handles it as professionally as possible. This video does not show the humiliating side of "To Catch A Predator" series, though i do not doubt that it exist.
 
This is crazy, l just started binging the new iteration of the show two days ago.
 
Lol mans been back with the new show since 2022.

Podcast going into detail on the past preds since 2021 (highly recommend)

And had another show (sting) in 2017 in one city (Hansen vs preds)

Going through this thread made me realize I how dumb a lot of people are/were, the crimes are mainly committed in the chat and them showing up shows full intent. Not even sure how some people argued “embarrassment” for the preds who actively talk sexually and send explicit material to decoys and actual kids (yes there have been preds caught on his shows that are repeat offenders). The family, friends and community are all unfortunately collateral damage (sympathy for all of them) for the choices a grown *** man made because he was stupid, horny, making friends, good samaritan, or whatever bs they throw out

I did praise him last year for all the work he’s been doing (bringing more awareness to these crimes and situations) but I have my issues with his side projects and grifting as well, however that’s neither here nor there. My frustrations lie why the prosecutors and judges, life in prison with no parole or chance of ever getting out should be the guaranteed sentence every time you’re caught in an underage sting. There’s a war on drugs, when can we have one on child preds
 
One guy got literally butt naked in the kitchen lol l didn’t think they’d let it get that far. There was zero chance he could conjure up any excuse. I think they need to let the act go on a little longer considering there’s law there. Chris jumps in within the first two minutes, which gives the guys a chance to say they were just there to talk blah blah blah.
 
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