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Did you need it?
Glad you went?
Do you think its a waste of time?
Greatest decision you ever made?

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great time...learn great stuff

i don't know what i'd be doing if i wasn't in college...

even if its just CC get something under your belt...

networking is great but you kinda gotta have something to back you up...

a degree and networking > anything...

unless your parents are the boss...then you're good money...
 
delay working as long as you can. college over work anyday
 
I've been having mixed feelings lately because of cost. I kind of want to go through Fire Academy and become a fire fighter. But i think im goin to stickwith college. Man the UC is such a rip off btw...
 
Originally Posted by Air23Jordan707

I've been having mixed feelings lately because of cost. I kind of want to go through Fire Academy and become a fire fighter. But i think im goin to stick with college. Man the UC is such a rip off btw...
Exactly the type of situation Im going threw.
Ive been offered to take an internship at a music studio (possible job and network in the biz)...so its either that or college.
What does UC stand for btw?
 
I'm definitely glad I went away for college. I feel that more than anything, college away from home has made me much more mature than if I would have wentto a local college around where I lived. I really grew up, and was more open minded. There's just so many different kinds of people that you meet, and sodifferent than what you were used to all your life while you were home. I aslo feel that college made me mentally stronger. All those nights studying hard,doing 10-12 page research papers, and doing all nighters made me understand how to work smarter, not harder, and helped me gained mental toughness. So all inall, college is a great experience, and definitely not a waste of time IMO.
 
Originally Posted by THE FAME

Originally Posted by Air23Jordan707

I've been having mixed feelings lately because of cost. I kind of want to go through Fire Academy and become a fire fighter. But i think im goin to stick with college. Man the UC is such a rip off btw...
Exactly the type of situation Im going threw.
Ive been offered to take an internship at a music studio (possible job and network in the biz)...so its either that or college.
What does UC stand for btw?


if you really wanna go to school go to CC...
 
Originally Posted by chino905

I'm definitely glad I went away for college. I feel that more than anything, college away from home has made me much more mature than if I would have went to a local college around where I lived. I really grew up, and was more open minded. There's just so many different kinds of people that you meet, and so different than what you were used to all your life while you were home. I aslo feel that college made me mentally stronger. All those nights studying hard, doing 10-12 page research papers, and doing all nighters made me understand how to work smarter, not harder, and helped me gained mental toughness. So all in all, college is a great experience, and definitely not a waste of time IMO.


Fame UC=University of California. I go to UC San Diego. And chino, thats a good response to read, I think i havent been in college long enough to gain thatmentality you have. I guess i haven't been challenged yet...like having to study all night. I'll see what this next quarter brings. I really need learnhow to work smarter and not harder.
 
I agree with chino905. You meet people totally different from the ones you are used to back home. It was a culture shock for me, especially coming from Oaklandto UCLA. At first I was reluctant to get to know people at my school, but eventually I opened up, and glad I did. It also made me appreciate home much more.And my mom never calls me when Im out late at night when im in college haha
 
Originally Posted by warriors510

You meet people totally different from the ones you are used to back home. It was a culture shock for me, especially coming from Oakland to UCLA. At first I was reluctant to get to know people at my school, but eventually I opened up, and glad I did. It also made me appreciate home much more. And my mom never calls me when Im out late at night when im in college haha
Yes, I was the same way. Very reluctant to change how I was, but I eventually opened up as well. It's funny too because now whenever I hangout with my friends from around my way, or friends from high school, they are much more simple minded than I am. I can't even have a semi-intellectualconversation with them fools.
 
Yea i feel you. When im home i just talk straight slang with them. When im at school i can't use any of my slang because they don't understand me lol
 
I am blessed because my parents paid for it, my family helped me get a job after graduating (which I would not have been able to do given how the labor marketwas in 2008 and still is as of mid 2009). As result, I have no financial regrets about it, if you had to get student loans, I can see why many are upset withcollege, before the recession even. Even in more robust job markets, many graduates fell like they are just like day laborers in terms pay, respect and jobsecurity with the difference being that the day laborer at the corner do not have to wear ties to answer phones and make $10 per hour. College is getting moreand more expensive because more people are going but because more people are going, the value of degrees diminish and so the return falls while costs fallmaking a degree less and less financially helpful. Fro ma financial standpoint college is less profitable if you look at it like business venture or it isbecoming an over valued asset if you think of your degree as an investment/asset.

Non-pecuniary considerations aside, college was great. There were parties, even though I did not go to a party school, I had chances to let loose and indulgeby desire for drink, drugs and sex. Parties were great at either commiserating failures or celebrating accomplishments. Although parties were needed, life isnot like most movies about college and much of the social experience about college is not lived through parties but rather through daily interactions. It isalmost impossible to not make friends and unlike k-12 most of those friendships are between more like minded people and which so many potential friends tochoose, one usually ends up with someone with the same personality and/or personality traits that play as foil in a succesful friendship. I

n college most peoepl abandon many of the rational attitudes and slavish devotion to cliques and superficial labels. Yet we ar estill young enough to not becurmudgeons set in our ways. Parties are fun but the majority of what the college social experience social is the friends and the faact that friend of frinedcan become your best buddy within weeks or that your friends come fro mmroe diverse bak grounds than the friend you met in k-12. College is a socialenvironment that cannot be duplicated and it is lived at time in one life that is perfectly suited for conviviality.


There is also the academic aspect of it. As great as the parties and the friendships are, anyone who says that college is only useful for the socialexperiences either watches too many movies about college or went to college and just was not very bright or had any modicum of intellectual inclination.Consider how much time and money it takes to finish college I expected to be shown new ideas, learn how to research well, how to organize information inone's mind, draw conclusions, defend them in writing or or in debates. One should learn how to have discussion and know when the goal is to refute andprove your point and in other instances the discussion is not about anyone winning or losing but opposing ideas being contrasted and both parties gaining andlearning from the experience. You should get to learn your historical and literary and cultural history and how the world came to be how it is. All of thisshould be done in general education.

After that, the major should be enjoyed, spending two or three years focusing on the rudiments of an academic disciplines should be fun. Challenging yes, butalso enjoyable. I loved double majoring. History was fun because there were so many options for classes in that large department. Economics was smaller and hadless choices of classes but ts small size was helpful because by senior years I had many of the professors for a second time, I knew all of my classmates andthat sense of common purpose and mutual desire to better understand something that was shared by fellow seniors is something I really do miss.

I also loved talking to my professor when I was an upper class man. I had learned enough economics to know how little I knew relative to how much knowledgeexists, discovered and yet to be discovered. Except for the beginning and ending of the semester when students are begging to add and where students beggingfor extensions on papers and passing gardes, respectively, office hours should be enjoyed. If you like you majors, it is very enjoyable to get to talk one onone with someone who is master of this portion of mankind's knowledge. I am used to doing most of the talking and having the answers but when I went intooffice hours, I was quite, humble and listened to their every word because they are the master and us undergrad the apprentices. I hoped t further understandmy particular focus of study and having a few length discussions with your professors will put you far ahead of your peers. When they know that you have theinterest, they will tell you things that they generally do not say to undergrads and it is just a wonderful feeling to know that while my knowledge of thesubject is still no where near that of my teachers', it is far beyond almost every else's.
Business is messy, shallow, ignoble and scholarship is not.

I think it is pretty obvious that I will not be able to stay away from college and put off graduate school for all that long. In two or three years I hope tobe back and this time to get the type of advanced degrees that people take seriously.


Good luck to all current or soon to be undergrads, enjoy the experience in its totality. Go to parties, meet girls, make friends, go on a few road trips, ifyour school has any stupid tradition like jumping in a lake or fountain go through with it. Go to your classes and be up on the material so when the weathergets nice and you just have to skip class, you can do it without it being the nail in your academic coffin. Talk to your professors. Stay in shape and playintramurals so you can be healthy and have the energy to handle the two weeks of hard work per semester. Avoid all nighters, they will probably be neccesitydue to either a large course load or more likley procrastination but do not plan on all nighters, especially if you are a freshman, who wants to feel like theyare officially in college by doing that.

You have no obligation to play frisbee. (no elaboration needed here)
 
Thanks for all the answers. But the colleges Im looking at are all local so I will still be living home when I attend.
One is a private branched college. South University, the other is a tech school.
Any word on tech schools or South university?

P.S. Im looking at etheir Graphic Design or a degree in the Medical field.
 
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

I had learned enough economics to know how little I knew relative to how much knowledge exists, discovered and yet to be discovered.

Wowwww dude i just went thru the same thing about a week ago. the more I learn, the lower my academic esteem gets (figuratively). Im majoring in financialeconomics and econometrics, I never realized the sheer extent of how much is out there.

whered you go to school btw?
 
Originally Posted by Jules300

I had a great time i just wish i did a different major more internships when i realized what i wanted to do as a career smh
 
I don't regret it one bit. I don't think I would be this mature without it to be honest. I see Myspace pages of friends from HS that just make me SMHin real life. Still talking about partying everyday, dropping whole paychecks on car payments, and clothes. BTW these folks are around 23-24 years old now.

About to start Masters program in Aug. with goal of making 6 figure income by the time I turn 30, doing what I like.
 
just look at it this way...go to college and you can still get any job that doesn't require a degree.

soo many more doors will be open for you.

and it's a good experience, GO!
 
I'm still enjoying it.

It's crazy how much I've changed because of it over the past few years. And I'm glad those changes were made.
 
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