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Wondering is any NT member attended a culinary school and what they their experience was like. On my journey to be that dude in the food industry i would like to attend a culinary school after getting my masters in food science. Been watching my dude action bronson on his online cook show(Action in the Kitchen) from the past. Not trying to spend a grip on the school after grad school. I know their have to be some gem places in america where u can get some good cooking lessons without breaking the bank. Since im from louisiana was kind of thinking of coming back to new orleans for the lessons since you know the best food is in the crescent city. Looking for a school on the east coast if possible(DMV,Boston,NYC). Holla at me NT if you can help me out.



 
Sounds like you already know not to get suckered into AI or another expensive program. Seek out a community college with a good program. If you want to be a line cook you won't make any money so don't waste it on expensive culinary school. It's all about experience once you are working. I've rarely been asked about culinary school.
 
Not to thread jack, but do you culinary guys enjoy shows like Hell's Kitchen and Chopped?
 
i plan to do product development with the master degree just want to learn more about food. I love food just want to tackle the food world at in direction. Whenever i need to speak on a type of food to a company or just people in general i want to know what im talking. I can always say i know how to cook but going to a culinary school open more doors to understanding food.
 
I would think this industry is all about work experience. I mean not to say, but I bet half of the guys out there that own business or manage restaurants don't have a degree. I would think getting in as a chef is just as hard or if not harder to do than any other job out there right now. They probably want someone with tons of experience but yet doesn't want to pay them anything. No wonder people just end up opening up their own restaurants.
 
if anyone lurking i just found this
Find the Culinary School That's Right for You If you're interested in pursuing a career in the culinary arts, at some point you'll no doubt be faced with the decision of whether or not to go to culinary school. A lot of old-school chefs will claim that real-life restaurant experience is more valuable than anything you can learn in a classroom. And industry experience is important. But with so many of today's most successful chefs holding culinary degrees, a pattern of success begins to emerge. The bottom line is, more and more of the top chefs in the top kitchens are culinary school graduates — and they're the ones doing the hiring! So there's a good chance they'll be looking at that "education" line on your resume to see if you've got a culinary arts degree. Once you've decided that culinary school is the right choice for you, the question becomes which culinary school? Here are five things to look for when choosing a culinary school:

1. ACF Accreditation The American Culinary Federation (ACF) is the top professional chefs' organization in North America and is the organization responsible for regulatory oversight of culinary schools. Schools seeking ACF accreditation must undergo a thorough evaluation of their curriculum, facilities, student-teacher ratios, certification of instructors and more. ACF accreditation is like a seal of approval from the culinary industry, so you can be confident that an ACF-accredited culinary arts program is going to adhere to a uniform standard of instruction and provide a top-quality culinary arts education. 

2. Cost While you're working toward your dream of success in the culinary industry, the reality is that entry-level foodservice jobs aren't exactly high-paying. And since it's not uncommon for some culinary schools to charge $40,000 or more, that often means incurring a large amount of student-loan debt. Fortunately, many local community colleges offer ACF-accredited culinary programs at prices that are incredibly affordable. For instance, the culinary program at any of the community colleges in California will cost state residents around $1,300. When you consider that ACF accrediting ensures a standard level of quality (not to mention the fact that many programs that charge upwards of $40,000 have no accreditation whatsoever), an excellent culinary education does not need to be an expensive one. 

3. Age of School The popularity of cooking reality shows such as "Top Chef" has led to increased interest in culinary schools. To meet this increased demand, more privately operated culinary schools come into existence. But newer schools aren't necessarily better. For one thing, ACF accreditation doesn't come overnight. It takes a consistent track record of excellence to receive the ACF's seal of approval, and many newer schools just aren't there yet. Something else to remember is that the longer a school has existed, the broader its network of alumni will be. And that translates into jobs. If a school has been around for 50 years or more, chances are that hundreds of its graduates are working in kitchens throughout the area and beyond — many of whom may be the executive chefs or sous chefs who do the hiring.

4. Modern Facilities The flip side of the age of the school is the state of its facilities. Community colleges may have been around longer, but their budgets may also be relatively small. That makes it tougher for them to purchase new equipment or outfit modern classrooms and kitchens. On the other hand, the newer schools with the higher tuitions often boast newly constructed, state-of-the art facilities. Then again, not every restaurant out there is going to have state-of-the-art facilities, so taking classes in the comfort of a shiny new high-tech kitchen may not adequately prepare students for the gritty realities of the culinary industry.

5. Hands-On Instruction A good culinary program should have some sort of student-operated restaurant that allows them to get a sense of real-world restaurant service — and in fact, most of them do. The question is, how realistic is the experience it offers? If students are only serving 20 or 30 guests per day, it's probably not enough to approximate the pressures and demands of a real restaurant. At the other end of the spectrum, culinary arts students at Los Angeles Trade-Tech College serve more than 800 guests daily in three separate dining facilities. Of course, there's no substitute for real restaurant experience. Some programs encourage or even require some sort of internship or "externship" whereby students earn course credit through work in a local restaurant. if anyone is lurking i found this
 
Fong you're right. Half is experience and half is who you know. Once you get some years under your belt you can get jobs pretty easy. I had a hard time at first though with no experience and not many connections. But you meet people fast and get experience you can demand higher pay or walk from a job that won't give you a raise and by the time our two week notice is up you'll have another job for sure. You don't burn bridges as a cook. Because everyone knows everyone. Gotta give two weeks.

Op I'd suggest you get a job in a test kitchen and do stages part time as a line cook in a kitchen of the cuisine you want to learn. Real talk culinary school isn't necessary. I never finished and I'm doing fine career wise. You do learn some stuff that's cool like how to make sauces and stocks but get in a scratch kitchen and you learn it anyways.

It will get your foot in the door landing your first job though. Your instructors will know chefs and if you're a good student they'll hire you. That's how I got my first job cooking.
 
I would think this industry is all about work experience. I mean not to say, but I bet half of the guys out there that own business or manage restaurants don't have a degree. I would think getting in as a chef is just as hard or if not harder to do than any other job out there right now. They probably want someone with tons of experience but yet doesn't want to pay them anything. No wonder people just end up opening up their own restaurants.

This guy is 100% correct. I know some chefs myself (some of whom NT has heard of) and I asked them about their journey into the culinary arts and you'd be surprised with what they tell people. It's really all about experience and what you've done than where you learned your craft.

Some of the chefs I've spoken to directly told me that it's sometimes better to open your own restaurant than spend all that money in school. Again, these are chefs that have well known restaurants in major metropolitan cities such as NYC, LA, Miami, San Francisco etc etc

I do know that New Orleans is a pretty good place to start your own place if you're looking into breaking into the culinary arts and becoming a head chef.

Best of luck, OP.

On a side note: If you're a great chef--You can make some serious BANK. It's ridiculous to see how much money these guys make just to cook food for a bunch of people. I look at them and sometimes tell myself that I got into the wrong profession :lol
 
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I went to The Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park New York and i will say that if your going into the industry to be a chef then a good culinary school is a great foundation to get your career started. You learn all the basics and classic techniques that you build your entire cooking career on. You learn everything from peeling an onion and the proper way to cut up to how to properly cook asouffle and everything inbetween.

For what your ooking to do OP id suggest looking into some continuing education classes offered at the Culinary Institute of America to learn the basics about cooking and some classical techniques

Also just look into books such as modernist cuisine and the professional chef they are both fanastic books that explain the basics
 
Yup modernist cuisine is a good one. Lots of cool info in there. It's not my style at all as far as cooking but I have read a lot of it. It's also mad expensive though. :lol my chef now had a hard copy but I have a copy on my computer too.
 
I went to The Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park New York and i will say that if your going into the industry to be a chef then a good culinary school is a great foundation to get your career started. You learn all the basics and classic techniques that you build your entire cooking career on. You learn everything from peeling an onion and the proper way to cut up to how to properly cook asouffle and everything inbetween.

For what your ooking to do OP id suggest looking into some continuing education classes offered at the Culinary Institute of America to learn the basics about cooking and some classical techniques

Also just look into books such as modernist cuisine and the professional chef they are both fanastic books that explain the basics
Thanks bro this is more of what im looking for with learning the basics and different techniques for making food taste so good. I added the professional chef book to my wish list on amazon. Will probably buy the book whenever i start buying my school books for the semester. The modernist cuisine is a $500 book set(too expensive for my taste), so ill look for a pdf online. With me getting my master in food science i plan to be a scientist doing research in the lab. I would work at a restaurant if i have the time during my career. Not looking to be a line cook maybe at a high end restaurant or something along those line. Shoot not even high end if i like the restaurant ill work there in a major city. Something to do after work for the love of it.

I actually contacted The Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, NY earlier today. Not sure if im trying to drop 60k for a 21 month program. Was going to see if i could get some funding from the department of food science at my school but sure if they would like the fact of me being gone for 21 months. 

If u could tell me a little more about your experience at the TCIA it would be beneficial.

My professor at the business college on campus for the past year or two. Keeps telling me that i need open a  small business up with this food science route im taking in life. 

@Hank Scorpio could u tell me a little more about the chiefs you met with their journey of building well known restaurants If you could summarize a story for me from what some of the chief have told you.

In the long run im trying to slow down obesity in America. I want to set something up with my dean to meet with Michelle Obama its a long shot but at least get some of the idea out. Its really sad the way Americans choose to live and eat.
 
Yup modernist cuisine is a good one. Lots of cool info in there. It's not my style at all as far as cooking but I have read a lot of it. It's also mad expensive though.
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my chef now had a hard copy but I have a copy on my computer too.
hey could i get a copy of the one you have on your computer and also do you know of any other good books you could recommend me?
 
Yup modernist cuisine is a good one. Lots of cool info in there. It's not my style at all as far as cooking but I have read a lot of it. It's also mad expensive though. :lol my chef now had a hard copy but I have a copy on my computer too.
hey could i get a copy of the one you have on your computer and also do you know of any other good books you could recommend me?

Can I get those recommendations as well and if so a copy of the book as well?

I enjoy cooking as a hobby. Some people have strongly suggested that I go to culinary school. As interesting as it sounds, I know it's not for me. I don't have the passion to cook for people like that on a daily basis. Especially things like making a nice steak and seeing someone cover it in steak sauce, ******g gets to me :{ Also having worked in a restaurant and seeing how much food gets wasted by people :{ But I'm a big fan of Anthony Bourdain and I watch other cooking shows, I have a lot of respect of chefs. I would love to learn more and improve my cooking skills. I've been wanting to take classes but I haven't really had the time to look into them. Any chefs from NY, or anyone know of places worth checking out?

Best of luck OP
 
Yup modernist cuisine is a good one. Lots of cool info in there. It's not my style at all as far as cooking but I have read a lot of it. It's also mad expensive though. :lol my chef now had a hard copy but I have a copy on my computer too.
hey could i get a copy of the one you have on your computer and also do you know of any other good books you could recommend me?

Can I get those recommendations as well and if so a copy of the book as well?

I enjoy cooking as a hobby. Some people have strongly suggested that I go to culinary school. As interesting as it sounds, I know it's not for me. I don't have the passion to cook for people like that on a daily basis. Especially things like making a nice steak and seeing someone cover it in steak sauce, ******g gets to me :{ Also having worked in a restaurant and seeing how much food gets wasted by people :{ But I'm a big fan of Anthony Bourdain and I watch other cooking shows, I have a lot of respect of chefs. I would love to learn more and improve my cooking skills. I've been wanting to take classes but I haven't really had the time to look into them. Any chefs from NY, or anyone know of places worth checking out?

Best of luck OP
ALL OF THIS!!!!
i would like a copy as well.
i enjoy cooking everything from scratch and trying new recipes when i can.
i cook as a hobby
 
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Thanks bro this is more of what im looking for with learning the basics and different techniques for making food taste so good. I added the professional chef book to my wish list on amazon. Will probably buy the book whenever i start buying my school books for the semester. The modernist cuisine is a $500 book set(too expensive for my taste), so ill look for a pdf online. With me getting my master in food science i plan to be a scientist doing research in the lab. I would work at a restaurant if i have the time during my career. Not looking to be a line cook maybe at a high end restaurant or something along those line. Shoot not even high end if i like the restaurant ill work there in a major city. Something to do after work for the love of it.

I actually contacted The Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, NY earlier today. Not sure if im trying to drop 60k for a 21 month program. Was going to see if i could get some funding from the department of food science at my school but sure if they would like the fact of me being gone for 21 months. 

If u could tell me a little more about your experience at the TCIA it would be beneficial.

My professor at the business college on campus for the past year or two. Keeps telling me that i need open a  small business up with this food science route im taking in life. 

@Hank Scorpio could u tell me a little more about the chiefs you met with their journey of building well known restaurants If you could summarize a story for me from what some of the chief have told you.

In the long run im trying to slow down obesity in America. I want to set something up with my dean to meet with Michelle Obama its a long shot but at least get some of the idea out. Its really sad the way Americans choose to live and eat.
The CIA is great they have changed a lot of the program since i have been there (but most of it is how the courses are laid out).

The CIA is a great expirence because the things you learn week 1 in the cooking classes you build upon and use until graduation.

The program starts off with some classroom where you learn basic kitchen math and how to cost a recipe as well as basic writing.

Then you move into fabrication of meat and fish (which you'll smell of nothing but fish and meat for like a month afterwards)

Then you learn how to cook basic sauces, soups and cooking techniques such as proper seasoning  and how to sear and grill meat, fish and vegetables.

after them classes you move onto learning how do a mock service in skills 3.

After that its all learning how to cook different types of cuisine and how to build flavors as well as the history of cuisines of the world.

The school is really about how much you are willing to put in and learn if you slack and do just the required work to pass the class youre going to really feel you wasted your money but if your in a class that is willing to learn most of the chefs will be willing to teach you extra stuff or different methods on how to achieve the same goal as the way laid out in the Professional Chef. (There is a great version on the iPad if you have one i use it a lot at work when i need to reference it)

The School has a large amount of outside of the classroom lectures from famous chefs and other knowlegdeable professionals. I attended a few and learn nearly as much at them as i did in school.

I can tell you though once you graduate youll be the grunt in any kitchen you work, I myself have worked a bunch of ****** jobs over the past 5 years since school and have had days at work where i wanted to walk out of because either the chef or the sous chef is a complete *******

The worse part of the CIA is you learn how to make everything with butter and cream and youll gain the freshmen 50 if your not careful eating everything that is avalible to you everyday at lunch or dinner. But they do have a nutrion class but you'll deff have to watch what you eat and mindful of all your eating.

The problem with high end restaurants is they will still do things in the classic french cooking method and use cream and butter for everything and that's why it tastes so good.

Americas problem is eating health costs more then not 2000 calories or all organic food will cost you about 16-20 bucks but you can go to mcdonalds or somewhere else and get 2000 calories for like 7 bucks. And most american households don't know how to properly cook my mother wasn't a great cook and we used a bunch of meal in a box which are high in sodium and other stuff that isn't great for the body. Most of the girls i know my age not one can't cook to save their lives.

Id reccomend reading On Food and Cooking since your intrested in food science the book is amazing and will tell you the science behind everything.

Also to watch i reccomend The Mind of a Chef its on netflix it shows you a bunch of neat stuff and a lot of the culture behind japanese cooking. Also Marcells quantum kitchen is a great watch because it does show you a bunch of modern techniques that involve science in cooking.
 
The CIA is great they have changed a lot of the program since i have been there (but most of it is how the courses are laid out).

The CIA is a great expirence because the things you learn week 1 in the cooking classes you build upon and use until graduation.

The program starts off with some classroom where you learn basic kitchen math and how to cost a recipe as well as basic writing.

Then you move into fabrication of meat and fish (which you'll smell of nothing but fish and meat for like a month afterwards)

Then you learn how to cook basic sauces, soups and cooking techniques such as proper seasoning  and how to sear and grill meat, fish and vegetables.

after them classes you move onto learning how do a mock service in skills 3.

After that its all learning how to cook different types of cuisine and how to build flavors as well as the history of cuisines of the world.

The school is really about how much you are willing to put in and learn if you slack and do just the required work to pass the class youre going to really feel you wasted your money but if your in a class that is willing to learn most of the chefs will be willing to teach you extra stuff or different methods on how to achieve the same goal as the way laid out in the Professional Chef. (There is a great version on the iPad if you have one i use it a lot at work when i need to reference it)

The School has a large amount of outside of the classroom lectures from famous chefs and other knowlegdeable professionals. I attended a few and learn nearly as much at them as i did in school.

I can tell you though once you graduate youll be the grunt in any kitchen you work, I myself have worked a bunch of ****** jobs over the past 5 years since school and have had days at work where i wanted to walk out of because either the chef or the sous chef is a complete *******

The worse part of the CIA is you learn how to make everything with butter and cream and youll gain the freshmen 50 if your not careful eating everything that is avalible to you everyday at lunch or dinner. But they do have a nutrion class but you'll deff have to watch what you eat and mindful of all your eating.

The problem with high end restaurants is they will still do things in the classic french cooking method and use cream and butter for everything and that's why it tastes so good.

Americas problem is eating health costs more then not 2000 calories or all organic food will cost you about 16-20 bucks but you can go to mcdonalds or somewhere else and get 2000 calories for like 7 bucks. And most american households don't know how to properly cook my mother wasn't a great cook and we used a bunch of meal in a box which are high in sodium and other stuff that isn't great for the body. Most of the girls i know my age not one can't cook to save their lives.

Id reccomend reading On Food and Cooking since your intrested in food science the book is amazing and will tell you the science behind everything.

Also to watch i reccomend The Mind of a Chef its on netflix it shows you a bunch of neat stuff and a lot of the culture behind japanese cooking. Also Marcells quantum kitchen is a great watch because it does show you a bunch of modern techniques that involve science in cooking.
thanks bro repped added On Food and Cooking to my wish list on amazon and The Mind of a Chef to my netflix que. I want to attend CIA just need to make a decision  on when and if i want to fork out the funds. After my master im going to be pooped with going to start. May just start my career up for a few years before attending CIA and just take some classes at a smaller instituion. This chick i know told me her roommate is about to move to denver for this culinary school. She going to get back with me with the name of the school
 
I know plenty of ex cooks who have went back to school for food science. I'm sure once you get into your field you will find the same. Maybe they could be some help to you too bro.
 
The CIA has a few other campuses that offer different programs I know they have a program without all the classroom classes that does just the kitchen classes that doesn't give you a degree but its the same just no fluff classes.

Its deff the best decision I have made school wise just didn't make the right career choices once I graduated
 
That micro-gastronomy stuff is interesting whenever I see it on tv.

Been wanting to take some classes at CIA. Maybe when I have some extra money.
 
If you are in the DMV area, check out La Academie de Cuisine in gaithersburg, MD. I know CIA is the best culinary school in the country, but La Academia de Cuisine is also top 10 in the country... They offer different programs... Professional program for culinary arts or pastry arts, recreational cooking, and advance recreational cooking...

http://www.lacademie.com/
 
If you are in the DMV area, check out La Academie de Cuisine in gaithersburg, MD. I know CIA is the best culinary school in the country, but La Academia de Cuisine is also top 10 in the country... They offer different programs... Professional program for culinary arts or pastry arts, recreational cooking, and advance recreational cooking...

http://www.lacademie.com/
thanks this seems alot cheaper but is it $70/80 for one class or the full course. Im going to call them in the am for more information. Also im going to see if any of my boys heard/know of someone that went to this school
 
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