Cure for AIDS?

This actually old news, OP.

And frankly, I wouldn't call it a cure...dkw



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Originally Posted by SuperAntigen

Well bone marrow treatment has been considered a treatment for HIV/AIDS for quite some time now. Trust me this really isn't news in the scientificcommunity. Its good, but not anything that hasn't been considered.
Im slightly confused though, if it really did why wouldnt you do it for someone else saying it may incite false hope?

First thing to consider--the doctors replaced the patient's Bone marrow with that of someone who has a mutation that makes them immune to the HIV. Thatmutation is most likely due to the fact that the donor lacks the CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 CD-4 cell membrane receptors. HIV requires these receptors to enter yourCD-4 cells--which is where the damage begins because as HIV proliferates, your CD-4 cell titer goes down, allowing for a gang of normally innocuousopportunistic infections/pathogens to go buck wild in you--this is the onset of AIDS. The problem is that, very very veryfew individuals in the world have this CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 mutation that would confer resistance to HIV. Even more significant is the fact that themutation occurs primarily in people of European descent--specifically those in Central--Western Europe.

Second thing to consider--bone marrow transplant is a very tedious process because the match must be perfect or else youjust subjected the patient to a systematic whole body immunological attack. This patient must have been very very lucky (and rich) considering theyfound a perfect match for him. And not only that, a bone marrow match who was null for CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 receptor expression. Crazy odds.

So think about it. To say they have found a "cure" for HIV would be stupid and very unprofessional as well as scientifically misleading on theirpart. There are about 42 million people living with HIV/AIDS worldwide. Every year, there are about 5 million newinfections. Its not possible to find bone marrow matches for the many people. This is just the natural evolutionary workings of the Immune system. Andeven in against those magnificent odds, you found a bone marrow match for all those people, whose to say all the bone marrow donors would be positive for theCCR5--AND--CXCR-4 mutation. Its just highly improbable.

Now factor in the amount of money that would be needed to fund such a project. We live in a selfish/greedy world.Non of these countries that can do anything about HIV, will do anything about it because no one gives a damn about theBlack Continent--where HIV/AIDS is widespread. I say this because I'm from that continent--i was born there and I'm cognizant of how the WesternWorld views us--even though their wealth is a direct result of plundering us.

This guy who got cured--is really lucky and most likely also really rich...
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This actually old news, OP.

And frankly, I wouldn't call it a cure...dkw



http://niketalk.com/topic/127215?page=1



Originally Posted by SuperAntigen

Well bone marrow treatment has been considered a treatment for HIV/AIDS for quite some time now. Trust me this really isn't news in the scientificcommunity. Its good, but not anything that hasn't been considered.
Im slightly confused though, if it really did why wouldnt you do it for someone else saying it may incite false hope?

First thing to consider--the doctors replaced the patient's Bone marrow with that of someone who has a mutation that makes them immune to the HIV. Thatmutation is most likely due to the fact that the donor lacks the CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 CD-4 cell membrane receptors. HIV requires these receptors to enter yourCD-4 cells--which is where the damage begins because as HIV proliferates, your CD-4 cell titer goes down, allowing for a gang of normally innocuousopportunistic infections/pathogens to go buck wild in you--this is the onset of AIDS. The problem is that, very very veryfew individuals in the world have this CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 mutation that would confer resistance to HIV. Even more significant is the fact that themutation occurs primarily in people of European descent--specifically those in Central--Western Europe.

Second thing to consider--bone marrow transplant is a very tedious process because the match must be perfect or else youjust subjected the patient to a systematic whole body immunological attack. This patient must have been very very lucky (and rich) considering theyfound a perfect match for him. And not only that, a bone marrow match who was null for CCR5--AND--CXCR-4 receptor expression. Crazy odds.

So think about it. To say they have found a "cure" for HIV would be stupid and very unprofessional as well as scientifically misleading on theirpart. There are about 42 million people living with HIV/AIDS worldwide. Every year, there are about 5 million newinfections. Its not possible to find bone marrow matches for the many people. This is just the natural evolutionary workings of the Immune system. Andeven in against those magnificent odds, you found a bone marrow match for all those people, whose to say all the bone marrow donors would be positive for theCCR5--AND--CXCR-4 mutation. Its just highly improbable.

Now factor in the amount of money that would be needed to fund such a project. We live in a selfish/greedy world.Non of these countries that can do anything about HIV, will do anything about it because no one gives a damn about theBlack Continent--where HIV/AIDS is widespread. I say this because I'm from that continent--i was born there and I'm cognizant of how the WesternWorld views us--even though their wealth is a direct result of plundering us.

This guy who got cured--is really lucky and most likely also really rich...
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Dunno about all this, but I remember that a lot of the garden tools in Uganda had actually developed an immunity to HIV/AIDS...
 
Dunno about all this, but I remember that a lot of the garden tools in Uganda had actually developed an immunity to HIV/AIDS...
 
This isn't a cure for AIDS dude got lucky. He has a coreceptor that made him somewhat resistant, which is what made it work. Using chemotherapy to cure AIDS is dangerous, impractical and expensive.


Still pretty cool tho
 
This isn't a cure for AIDS dude got lucky. He has a coreceptor that made him somewhat resistant, which is what made it work. Using chemotherapy to cure AIDS is dangerous, impractical and expensive.


Still pretty cool tho
 
i wish it was no such thing as stds, man id never use a condom in my life
 
i wish it was no such thing as stds, man id never use a condom in my life
 
i heard some guy found a natural cure for aids that was in the forest or something but then all of it was destroyed and the guy was killed
 
We still have to deal with the other STDs and that is excluding getting girl pregnant.
 
Funny thing about this is because since its a STEM CELL treatment the procedure is still WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off from every day commercial expect for the rich and those being used as human test subjects due to the strong hold of stem cells. So keep it wrapped up fellas
 
Did you know that any AIDS that you contract on a Murphy Bed (Wall Bed) is undetectable?
 
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