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[Belgium]

until battery tech can be useful for da vast majority of Americans, petroleum will be da bipartisan
energy everyone uses for da foreseeable future.

The problem the US has is that it could realistically become a world leader in an ever growing green energy market, yet has shown absolutely zero incentive in doing so. Solar energy alone already employs double the amount of workers than the whole dying coal industry.

Natural gas employs roughly 7.7% more workers than solar energy based on 2017 data.

 

[ninjahood]

So a political thread version of tan

u mind sounding out da acronym and repeat ur sentence...ill let u figure out where u sound off.

 

[sea manup]

Check out the education platform of the Texas GOP.

They advocate an education system based on obedience of authority instead of promoting critical thinking and curiosity (which helps if you want to learn how to solve problems). Texas is the state that controls what publishers across the nation put in their textbooks. You do the math.

Why does texas control this? What would prevent a different publisher to start churning out textbooks in a different state?

 

[nawghtyhare]

Why does texas control this? What would prevent a different publisher to start churning out textbooks in a different state?

probably some hidden law or something
that designated texas

 

[aepps20]

who this "all"?

Coalition members ROOOOOOKIE.

 

[iDon’tRead]

Another thread about nothing ?

 

[ninjahood]

The problem the US has is that it could realistically become a world leader in an ever growing green energy market, yet has shown absolutely zero incentive in doing so. Solar energy alone already employs double the amount of workers than the whole dying coal industry.

unless solar/wind/renewables can show their worth on a scaled up profitable
model that doesn't include impugning or lobbying for banning of fossil fuels, they'll be a niche
player in da energy mix in da united states energy consumption options.

Why does texas control this?

same way California has sway over how they feel about automobiles... strength in #'s

 

[gry60]

until battery tech can be useful for da vast majority of Americans, petroleum will be da bipartisan
energy everyone uses for da foreseeable future.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/0...-breaks-stranglehold-of-natural-gas-industry/

The massive 129 kWh Tesla Powerpack installation in South Australia has already been having a strong impact on the region’s electricity markets, saving grid operator Neoen and customers an estimated $25 million, or just over ⅓ of the purchase price, in its first year of operation

The Tesla battery IS profitable

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-...leading-source-of-dispatchable-power/10326420

AEMO's data shows that it can dispatch power far more rapidly and precisely than conventional thermal power stations and more swiftly and accurately than the market operator thought possible — while also pushing down prices.

and effective.

In addition, energy storage solutions are only getting cheaper.

Ideology and protection of entrenched monopolies explain why that option has yet to gain traction in this country. Now, it is true that entrenched monopolies are a thing in every industry, but I have a problem with those industry leaders who know about the danger of the product they sell, keep selling it, and lie to me about the threat they pose to my health and the quality of my life.

 

[nawghtyhare]

ROOOOOOKIE

i read this in xmen vs street fighter wolverine winning pose voice

 

[blastercombo]

The US won’t switch to battery becuase so much of its investment is in big oil companies NOT becuase it isn’t useful lol.

 

[sea manup]

same way California has sway over how they feel about automobiles... strength in #'s

But there is a difference between having sway over opinions and what he was implying that it would be illegal for anyone else to print a school textbook outside of texas.

 

[ninjahood]

The US won’t switch to battery becuase so much of its investment is in big oil companies NOT becuase it isn’t useful lol.

im sure we got all da lithium to supply...oh wait
batteries now ain't cutting it, period, full stop.

 

[ninjahood]

i read this in xmen vs street fighter wolverine winning pose voice

thats where i got it from

 

[Nawzlew]

But there is a difference between having sway over opinions and what he was implying that it would be illegal for anyone else to print a school textbook outside of texas.

It's probably not as bad anymore with the internet and all.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/

Texas originally acquired its power over the nation’s textbook supply because it paid 100 percent of the cost of all public school textbooks, as long as the books in question came from a very short list of board-approved options. The selection process “was grueling and tension-filled,” said Julie McGee, who worked at high levels in several publishing houses before her retirement. “If you didn’t get listed by the state, you got nothing.” On the other side of the coin, David Anderson, who once sold textbooks in the state, said that if a book made the list, even a fairly mediocre salesperson could count on doing pretty well. The books on the Texas list were likely to be mass-produced by the publisher in anticipation of those sales, so other states liked to buy them and take advantage of the economies of scale.

Given the high cost of developing a single book, the risk of messing with Texas was high. “One of the most expensive is science,” McGee said. “You have to hire medical illustrators to do all the art.” When she was in the business, the cost of producing a new biology book could run to $5 million. “The investments are really great and it’s all on risk.”

 

[gry60]

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[blastercombo]

im sure we got all da lithium to supply...oh wait
batteries now ain't cutting it, period, full stop.

pretty sure you don’t know how things work industry wise with manufacturing, proper investment, conversation, etc. Let’s leave it at that. Fox News and 10 years of liberal arts at community college doesn’t cover that.

 

[sea manup]

It's probably not as bad anymore with the internet and all.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/

Texas originally acquired its power over the nation’s textbook supply because it paid 100 percent of the cost of all public school textbooks, as long as the books in question came from a very short list of board-approved options. The selection process “was grueling and tension-filled,” said Julie McGee, who worked at high levels in several publishing houses before her retirement. “If you didn’t get listed by the state, you got nothing.” On the other side of the coin, David Anderson, who once sold textbooks in the state, said that if a book made the list, even a fairly mediocre salesperson could count on doing pretty well. The books on the Texas list were likely to be mass-produced by the publisher in anticipation of those sales, so other states liked to buy them and take advantage of the economies of scale.

Given the high cost of developing a single book, the risk of messing with Texas was high. “One of the most expensive is science,” McGee said. “You have to hire medical illustrators to do all the art.” When she was in the business, the cost of producing a new biology book could run to $5 million. “The investments are really great and it’s all on risk.”

This seems like a problem that can be solved by innovation rather than government though, with all the technology kids have access to soon textbooks will be replaced with way more interactive and engaging alternatives. As with all things digital, the barriers to enter the market are drastically diminished.

 

[ninjahood]

But there is a difference between having sway over opinions and what he was implying that it would be illegal for anyone else to print a school textbook outside of texas.

Texas has power over publishers because its da biggest buyer which give em leverage over
things it wants...customer is always right scaled up basically.

 

[sea manup]

Texas originally acquired its power over the nation’s textbook supply because it paid 100 percent of the cost of all public school textbooks

This is exactly why people need to be careful when getting excited over "free stuff"

free stuff just means that whoever provides free stuff gets complete power over how and what type of free stuff people receive.

 

[ninjahood]

pretty sure you don’t know how things work industry wise with manufacturing, proper investment, conversation

its my job to know, i work in da field...
lithium is a rare material that is skyrocketing in cost, and already hit its ceiling in
regards to current battery tech...if da market doesnt find a better alternative that can
match da density of energy gasoline has, and be scaled up to compete, you'll be pumping
gas as long as you walk this Earth.

 

[gry60]

This seems like a problem that can be solved by innovation rather than government though, with all the technology kids have access to soon textbooks will be replaced with way more interactive and engaging alternatives. As with all things digital, the barriers to enter the market are drastically diminished.

You're talking about the medium, not the message.

The issue here is the message. In the article posted above, you can see how Texas religious conservatives have had the habit of rewriting American history to downplay the parts of it they do not like and elevate the parts that they do love. They nixed the New Deal from history books in the 60s. Recently (this year), they were talking about removing mentions of Hillary Clinton from their books (seriously). Changing the medium (textbooks to videos, online teaching, wikipedia, etc...) will not solve the issue of misinformation and science and history revisionism.

In addition, most people do not have the capacity to self-study, and those that do often do not have the expertise to know what to study. Honestly, if a society could educate most of its people just by motivating them, schools and universities would be obsolete by now. We're talking about institutions that are at least 2000 years old.

 

[sea manup]

You're talking about the medium, not the message.

The issue here is the message. In the article posted above, you can see how Texas religious conservatives have had the habit of rewriting American history to downplay the parts of it they do not like and elevate the parts that they do love. They nixed the New Deal from history books in the 60s. Recently (this year), they were talking about removing mentions of Hillary Clinton from their books (seriously). Changing the medium (textbooks to videos, online teaching, wikipedia, etc...) will not solve the issue of misinformation and science and history revisionism.

In addition, most people do not have the capacity to self-study, and those that do often do not have the expertise to know what to study. Honestly, if a society could educate most of its people just by motivating them, schools and universities would be obsolete by now. We're talking about institutions that are at least 2000 years old.

Whoever controls the medium controls the message.

If they want to tell their version of history to their own children, IMO they should be free to do that. The issue is that their views are being forced on everyone else because for whatever reason they control what goes into the textbooks. If it goes digital, than there is no longer the cost of producing textbooks that keeps someone from writing a better/more accurate/more useful version of a history textbook for people to educate themselves with.

A bad message is the most dangerous when it's the only message around.

 

[ninjahood]

Morgan Stanley: Belief in 'American exceptionalism' among global investors has never been higher

• Global investors are betting on America's economic success now more than ever, says Morgan Stanley Investment Management's Ruchir Sharma.
• "This year has been a story of how well America has done," he says.

Michelle Fox | @MFoxCNBC
Published 6 Hours AgoCNBC.com
[paste:font size="3"]Squawk Box," calling it an example of "American exceptionalism."

"We may or may not believe in [American exceptionalism], but the financial markets have never believed in it to such an extent," added Sharma, head of emerging markets and chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley Investment Management. The global firm has $474 billion in assets under management, as of June 30, 2018.

The strong economy has been touted by Trump administration officials such as top aide Larry Kudlow, who called it "the hottest economy in the world."

Second-quarter gross domestic product gained 4.2 percent, according to the government's final reading. And it appears the momentum has continued. The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow real-time indicator put the third-quarter growth at 4.1 percent, as of Monday.

Combine those figures with the first quarter's 2.2 percent gain, and the economy stands to grow at an average of 3.5 percent for the first nine months of 2018.

Sharma said that excellent economic performance is reflected in the "very richly valued" U.S. financial markets.

In fact, the stock market has doubled over the last decade, leaving a "huge gap" compared with international markets, particularly emerging ones, he added.

The S&P 500 is up 7.65 percent this year. Meanwhile, the iShares MSCI Emerging Markets ETF (EEM) dropped just over 13 percent in the same period.

However, the U.S. stock market hit a snag over the last three trading sessions, selling off after a jump in interest rates. That's led some prominent market watchers, like Wharton's Jeremy Siegel, to predict a difficult time for equities in the coming months.

— CNBC's Matthew Belvedere and Jeff Cox contributed to this report.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/mor...vestors-are-betting-on-us-exceptionalism.html

 

[gry60]

If it goes digital, than there is no longer the cost of producing textbooks that keeps someone from writing a better/more accurate/more useful version of a history textbook for people to educate themselves with.

The internet doesn't maintain itself. There are costs associated with the digital world (gotta pay to keep your website alive and accessible) and the research that goes towards gathering the information that will be published (gotta pay to keep your published textbook-website up to date).

If they want to tell their version of history to their own children, IMO they should be free to do that.

A bad message is the most dangerous when it's the only message around.

Are you familiar with philosophical discussions on the concept of Society?

 

[sea manup]

The internet doesn't maintain itself. There are costs associated with the digital world (gotta pay to keep your website alive and accessible) and the research that goes towards gathering the information that will be published (gotta pay to keep your published textbook-website up to date).





Are you familiar with philosophical discussions on the concept of Society?

Of course it’s not going to be free to do something digitally, but the point is it is no longer being controlled by a bunch of people in Texas.

Of course a society functions best when it has a common set of understandings and values. But the way to do this is though dialogue and not though force.