Dear Dwyane Wade

[mjsaver]

Son is averaging 20 pts playing with Bron and Bosh, he's just fine but NT is so extreme with the grading of players its comical.

Hes far from washed up and if Bron wasnt there he'd probly be having a season similar to Kobes, if not better.

 

[ag 47]

I don't think I can form an great opinion since I don't watch to much Heat basketball. But I was just pointing out some of these ridiculous numbers people throw out there. I know you copied and pasted so not trying to call you out.
Wade is in shape, but he always used to play so reckless and get hurt I can see that being an issue. But from what I have seen from when I watch the game I don't think it is as much of a conditioning problem as it is him trying to act like a diva on the court. Dude used to be tough but now has taken on the attitude of someone who wants every call. Take this opinion with a grain of salt though, just basing it off the small number of games I have seen him play in the last year.

I feel you. I was just annoyed at the idea that Wade doesn't take care of his body as someone else said. I'm far from a Heat and Wade fan, but that's ridiculous considering we haven't heard a shred of evidence to support that. In fact, everything we have heard, contradicts that...hiring Tim Grover, Jordan's former trainer, in the playoffs last year...working out with LeBron in the offseason.

Now if he said that about Carmelo, got you....no argument from me

 

[ag 47]

I don't think I can form an great opinion since I don't watch to much Heat basketball. But I was just pointing out some of these ridiculous numbers people throw out there. I know you copied and pasted so not trying to call you out.
Wade is in shape, but he always used to play so reckless and get hurt I can see that being an issue. But from what I have seen from when I watch the game I don't think it is as much of a conditioning problem as it is him trying to act like a diva on the court. Dude used to be tough but now has taken on the attitude of someone who wants every call. Take this opinion with a grain of salt though, just basing it off the small number of games I have seen him play in the last year.

I feel you. I was just annoyed at the idea that Wade doesn't take care of his body as someone else said. I'm far from a Heat and Wade fan, but that's ridiculous considering we haven't heard a shred of evidence to support that. In fact, everything we have heard, contradicts that...hiring Tim Grover, Jordan's former trainer, in the playoffs last year...working out with LeBron in the offseason.

Now if he said that about Carmelo, got you....no argument from me

 

[youngtriz]

its the shoes

 

[xxnamebrandxx]

It seems like he's still injured and playing through it. The same thing happened at the beginning of 2010-2011 season.

 

[powerballin]

I don't think I can form an great opinion since I don't watch to much Heat basketball. But I was just pointing out some of these ridiculous numbers people throw out there. I know you copied and pasted so not trying to call you out.
Wade is in shape, but he always used to play so reckless and get hurt I can see that being an issue. But from what I have seen from when I watch the game I don't think it is as much of a conditioning problem as it is him trying to act like a diva on the court. Dude used to be tough but now has taken on the attitude of someone who wants every call. Take this opinion with a grain of salt though, just basing it off the small number of games I have seen him play in the last year.

I feel you. I was just annoyed at the idea that Wade doesn't take care of his body as someone else said. I'm far from a Heat and Wade fan, but that's ridiculous considering we haven't heard a shred of evidence to support that. In fact, everything we have heard, contradicts that...hiring Tim Grover, Jordan's former trainer, in the playoffs last year...working out with LeBron in the offseason.

Now if he said that about Carmelo, got you....no argument from me

He hasn't worked with Grover for some time now

https://www.youtube.com/results?sea....1.1.0.88.358.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.s6izJSCD1RI

See this is why I get mad when people tell ME what I know and read.  I'm very into the NBA, NCAA, and HS basketball. 

 

[ag 47]

He hasn't worked with Grover for some time now

https://www.youtube.com/results?sea....1.1.0.88.358.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.s6izJSCD1RI

See this is why I get mad when people tell ME what I know and read.  I'm very into the NBA, NCAA, and HS basketball. 

Not sure what those videos were supposed to tell me. And I'm glad you watch all levels of basketball...I won't lie. HS basketball is a stretch.

With that said, http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/2012/06/18/dwyane-wade-calls-upon-trusted-friend-tim-grover/

That's dated June 19, 2012.

 

[alphawolf]

Dude never had a legit jumshot or footwork and was a horrible 3 shooter. it's pretty obvious that part of the reasons why hes struggling is because his athleticism has declined and he got no perimeter skill to rely on.

 

[powerballin]

He hasn't worked with Grover for some time now

https://www.youtube.com/results?sea....1.1.0.88.358.5.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.s6izJSCD1RI

See this is why I get mad when people tell ME what I know and read.  I'm very into the NBA, NCAA, and HS basketball. 

Not sure what those videos were supposed to tell me. And I'm glad you watch all levels of basketball...I won't lie. HS basketball is a stretch.

With that said, http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/heatzone/2012/06/18/dwyane-wade-calls-upon-trusted-friend-tim-grover/

That's dated June 19, 2012.

Ok that was the playoffs.  Who did he work with in the last 2 offseasons to prepare for the season and get past these injuries?  You don't "get in shape" or "get in better shape" in June.

 

[shoeking2101]

Dwayne Wade is the best SG in the Eastern Conference and is easily the best SG in the league not named Kobe Bryant. Please stop it with all this emotional uninformed sports talk. This is ridiculous.
Dwyane Wade 2012-2013 Stats
Pts Per Game: 19.4
Assist Per Game: 4.5
Steals Per Game: 1.2
Shooting Pctg: 47.3
TO Per Game: 2.3
All of this coming off knee surgery and recovering from a foot injury. He's fine and this thread has proven that a lot of people in this forum knows nothing about basketball...

The best 2 guard in the L right now not named Kobe?

James Harden, O.J. Mayo, and a few others would like to have a word with you...

 

[shoeking2101]

Wade can't beat anybody anymore on a consistent basis.

Combine that with the fact that he's a streaky shooter and it's no surprise that he looks like this now. He's been looking like this for the past two seasons as well.

Sure he turns in some great playoff performances but that's to be expected. He's an exceptional basketball player, that's gonna happen. But overall, the decline is is in the fact that he can't sustain that level of excellence every night. More often than not, he's looking painfully average.

Without Shaq and Lebron, he would be thrown into that class of combo guards like a gilbert arenas, Ben Gordon in his prime, and a few others although he is a better playmaker than those guys. Guys who could score a lot of points, but can't carry a team. The tweeners without a position. (Flame suit on)

Really what Dwayne Wade has done for his career thus far has been phenomenal. This whole Miami heat superstar, with all these commercials with T-Mobile, Mr GQ, etc., was not supposed to happen. He's a career overachiever. He was not supposed to have this career that he is having, let alone the fact that until the ncaa tourney in 03, he wasn't even supposed to be in the NBA. (Surely not considered to be an effective player in the L)

So in retrospect, this was supposed to happen. Maybe not this fast, but this is to be expected. Tweeners who can't shoot don't last long in the L and they definitely don't sustain that peak level of performance for over a 3 to 5 year span.

 

[ag 47]

Ok that was the playoffs.  Who did he work with in the last 2 offseasons to prepare for the season and get past these injuries?  You don't "get in shape" or "get in better shape" in June.

Hardly the point. The point is if he's taking these measures, flying in one of the most well known personal trainers, he's clearly doing what it takes to improve his body. As it stands, there's no evidence whatsoever to support Wade being out of shape, at least to my knowledge. Maybe you know something I don't.

 

[ucm92]

Completely agree with OP. It isn't  about the stats. It's the way he's playing. Anyone who's watched the NBA on a consistent basis for the past 3-5 seasons will notice that wade isn't close to being the same player. It just so happens that his stats are declining due to it, unlike kobe who we all know isn't the same player but no one talks about it as much because of his production. He isn't washed up or anything like that, and on a team with Bron and Bosh can still give miami what they need to win (I think, I hope). But he's definitely a step of two slower, the athleticism isn't there, his shooting isn't, and he doesn't beat his defender which equates to difficult J's, fall away J's, and turn overs and begging the ref for calls.

Like I said, if Wade can only give them 17-19 a game that's enough. Maybe. It puts an incredible amount of pressure on Bron to produce at a level that will be hard to keep up. Dude is already doing everything for them and playing the 4 on a nightly basis. Last year, you look at the indiana series, boston series, they don't win that without wades performances. This year with Brooklyn playing well, New York the best team in the east, I don't know if Lebron can play at a high enough level to compensate for the lack of production Wade is giving in comparison to what he gave them last season. It'll be interesting to see if Wade can adjust and find a way to better his level of play. 

And Dwade is not the 2nd best two guard in the NBA imo. 

 

[powerballin]

Ok that was the playoffs.  Who did he work with in the last 2 offseasons to prepare for the season and get past these injuries?  You don't "get in shape" or "get in better shape" in June.

Hardly the point. The point is if he's taking these measures, flying in one of the most well known personal trainers, he's clearly doing what it takes to improve his body. As it stands, there's no evidence whatsoever to support Wade being out of shape, at least to my knowledge. Maybe you know something I don't.

Grover and his staff do more than "workouts".  You can't improve your body in June at the end of the season.  And I never said he was out of shape.  He's just not in the same shape we are used to seeing from him. He's still a pro. He does things that pros do to make it throught the season but he's changed some things and suffered injuries too.  We can't be sure what it is but we do know he's changed trainers. 

 

[ohmygosher]

Two years Dwyane Wade became Dwayne Wade

Yea, you def butchered that.

 

[imonnt]

Ray> Wade 

If wade doesnt wake up, i wouldnt be surprised if ray wins the starting job

 

[do be doo]

Not really.

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;)

 

[nychiphophippo]

He's rich, bangin bad groupies, two rings and is dating Gabrielle Union. I wouldn't give a **** about basketball anymore either.

 

[pepperjackchees]

Dude was my favorite player ever. I still remember doing a class project about him back in 05 when I was in 8th grade. I think he still has it in him, but he's lost the consistency. And idk I dont live in miami but it does seem like he's partying, playing dress up with pink pants, and designing hublot watches a lot. I hate to question his commitment to the game. And I'd hate to see him reduced to playing in China in 4 years. 

 

[ohmygosher]

Not really.

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What you wanted to say was....

Dwyane [u][b]Wade[/b][/u] became Dwayne [u][b]Wayne[/b][/u].

 

[ill steelo]

Without Shaq and Lebron, he would be thrown into that class of combo guards like a gilbert arenas, Ben Gordon in his prime

it's always funny when dudes decline & people forget what they did individually in their career.

The fact that you're comparing him to Ben Gordon tells me all I need to know.

 

[do be doo]

But really tho.

 

[shoeking2101]

it's always funny when dudes decline & people forget what they did individually in their career.
The fact that you're comparing him to Ben Gordon tells me all I need to know.

You're taking it completely out of context. I'm not comparing him to Ben Gordon. Of course he's a better player than Ben Gordon. By taking that little piece out you are making it appear that I am comparing the two. That tells me all I need to know.

Is Dwade not a combo guard? Was he not regarded as that coming into the league? Don't answer that...

Is Ben Gordon a combo guard? Was he not regarded as that coming into the league? Don't answer that either...

you see what I did there? I didn't compare them as much as it just a point that added to the gist of what I was getting at which was that combo guards don't fair too well for extended periods of time in the L.

 

[antidope]

Jeff Van Gundy made a great point during the LA Thunder game today, not every NBA player is there because they love the game, some are there for the money fame and opportunity it brings. Wade has clearly lost interest but just because he has and we would kill to be in his spot doesnt mean we can put him on the stake. FYI I dont like Wade and enjoy seeing him struggle on the court a bit

 

[championboyz7]

Hes old.