Dear Dwyane Wade

[badboyf0life420]

i always find it crazy that hes only been in the league for 9 years and hes only 4 years younger than kobe.

 

[ill steelo]

You're taking it completely out of context. I'm not comparing him to Ben Gordon. Of course he's a better player than Ben Gordon. By taking that little piece out you are making it appear that I am comparing the two. That tells me all I need to know.

Is Dwade not a combo guard? Was he not regarded as that coming into the league? Don't answer that...

Is Ben Gordon a combo guard? Was he not regarded as that coming into the league? Don't answer that either...

you see what I did there? I didn't compare them as much as it just a point that added to the gist of what I was getting at which was that combo guards don't fair too well for extended periods of time in the L.[/SIZE]

Here's what you said

Without Shaq and Lebron, he would be thrown into that class of combo guards like Ben Gordon in his prime

This is a comparison sir, and an extremely poor one at that.

Then you ended it with this

Tweeners who can't shoot don't last long in the L and they definitely don't sustain that peak level of performance for over a 3 to 5 year span.

As if Wade is your everyday, average combo guard .

 

[spottieottie305]

The best 2 guard in the L right now not named Kobe?
James Harden, O.J. Mayo, and a few others would like to have a word with you...

This statement right here lacks perspective and knowledge of the game of basketball. Both players play on bad teams and are their teams primary source of offense. Wade is outplaying Mayo on a bad foot and healing knee. Harden has played great, but doesn't have anyone else who is legitimate a scoring threat. The second best player on the Rockets is Chandler Parsons... LOL

The 4th best player on the Heat is Ray Allen. Need I say more.


A few others would like to have a word with me to tell me Dwyane Wade is still a top player in this league. Get out of here with that non-sense.

 

[waddupdoe]

Just had a convo about this the other day. I strongly feel that wade never was the same since that 06 chip. I truly feel he gave it his all and abused his body so much that season. He literally carried that team. Mentally and physically, Wade was on another level. Just don't think he was ever fully 100% after that. Just look at the heat from that championship season until Lebron & Bosh got there.

 

[bdis1986]

its the shoes

..... Lmao

 

[$tacy]

It was so hard to root against dude pre lebron

 

[shoeking2101]

This statement right here lacks perspective and knowledge of the game of basketball. Both players play on bad teams and are their teams primary source of offense. Wade is outplaying Mayo on a bad foot and healing knee. Harden has played great, but doesn't have anyone else who is legitimate a scoring threat. The second best player on the Rockets is Chandler Parsons... LOL
The 4th best player on the Heat is Ray Allen. Need I say more.
A few others would like to have a word with me to tell me Dwyane Wade is still a top player in this league. Get out of here with that non-sense.

How exactly is Dwade outplaying Mayo? He's shooting better than Wade from the field, from the 3, and is scoring at a higher clip than him. Its clear you are bias and not looking at things from an honest perspective. The fact that you legitimately think D wade is outplaying OJ right now says all I need to know.

Harden...Same thing.

D Wade is not a top player in this league anymore. More people will tell you that he isn't than he is. He's "good" right now, that's it. He isn't great, he isn't a superstar talent anymore, he's just a "good" player.

 

[shoeking2101]

Here's what you said
This is a comparison sir, and an extremely poor one at that.
Then you ended it with this
As if Wade is your everyday, average combo guard .

Sir, let me ask you a question. Without Lebron and Shaq, when D wade was in his prime for a few years, what was he doing? Getting bounced out the first round and having the worst record in the league?

Sure throwing Ben Gordon in there was a bit extreme but you keep taking one thing out of what I said and harping on that, overlooking the point of it completely. D Wade probably would be looked at as your everyday, a dime a dozen, combo guard had he not got with Shaq, and later Lebron. (When he didn't have those guys he scored a lot of points, but didn't win anything, as I just pointed out.) Hell, HE WAS viewed as that coming out of college.

So again I say to, don't get caught up in the name "Ben Gordon," (Even though his ceiling was just as high as D Wade coming out of college. He was after all, the Number 3 pick in the draft) listen to what I am saying. Great player, who's had even greater fortune, has elevated him pass that reputation of being a combo guard, tweener, who isn't that successful in the L.

The point stands that Combo's and Tweeners don't last long in the league. Look at how D Wade has slowed down the last two years (And he's only been in the L 10 years) and he has probably been the best combo guard ever. He's proving that notion right unfortunately.

 

[JD617]

Dude, first round exit or not, in '08-'09 he had one of the best all-around seasons of any guard ever. This dime a dozen combo guard thing just isn't true and comparing Ben Gordon to him is ridiculous.

 

[216301baller]

If bron has a season ending injury do yall think wade could carry them to another title?...I say no

 

[shoeking2101]

Dude, first round exit or not, in '08-'09 he had one of the best all-around seasons of any guard ever. This dime a dozen combo guard thing just isn't true and comparing Ben Gordon to him is ridiculous.

One of my favorite seasons from a basketball player ever.

 

[xtapolapacetl]

Hes old.

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He's not even 31 yet. And he's only played like 70% of the regular season games he could've played throughout his career. Can't believe this dude is going downhill so fast at an age that is basiecally still 4-5 years away from the winter of a superstar player's career. He should focus on the defensive end and making cuts under the basket on the offensive end, something that got him going in that game in the Pacers series last year when he couldn't buy a jumpshot, stretching the court even more, the opposite of the way Ray Allen stretches it.

He can't be used as a spot-up shooter like Bosh. Running iso plays for him is not a smart option, other than the 1 game out of 7-8 where the jumpshot is falling for this streaky jumpshooter who has never been a great shooter.

 

[trasoul82]

If bron has a season ending injury do yall think wade could carry them to another title?...I say no

The refs could at least get him to the finals again.

 

[pmatic]

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He's not even 31 yet. And he's only played like 70% of the regular season games he could've played throughout his career. Can't believe this dude is going downhill so fast at an age that is basiecally still 4-5 years away from the winter of a superstar player's career. He should focus on the defensive end and making cuts under the basket on the offensive end, something that got him going in that game in the Pacers series last year when he couldn't buy a jumpshot, stretching the court even more, the opposite of the way Ray Allen stretches it.

He can't be used as a spot-up shooter like Bosh. Running iso plays for him is not a smart option, other than the 1 game out of 7-8 where the jumpshot is falling for this streaky jumpshooter who has never been a great shooter.

Looking at the career arc of other athletic guards like McGrady, Finley and Sprewell it isn't all that surprising. They all starting to experience declines in athleticism (and production in general) at 30-31.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Loads of hypocrisy on this site, loads of it.

I'll simply chalk it up to human error.

Man, all you ever do is whinge about the members here. Why don't you pack it up and move onto greener pastures? What's the point of being somewhere where you dislike most of the members and are universally despised? Seems fairly masochistic to me. It reminds me of a joke from Annie Hall:

Two Jewish women are in a restaurant. One says to the other 'I don't know why we come here, the food is awful.' The other woman says 'I know and such small portions!'

That's you in a nutshell. You complain ad nauseum about everything here and still make it a point to come here. Why? What does that say about your intelligence?

 

[kingkoopa]

If bron has a season ending injury do yall think wade could carry them to another title?...I say no

If D Wade a season ending injury you think Bron could carry the team? See I can throw silly **** out there too.

 

[lobotomybeats]

If D Wade a season ending injury you think Bron could carry the team? See I can throw silly **** out there too.

I actually think he could. There are times that I think no Wade is better than the Wade we have now.

 

[Peep Game]

I just wished Wade would've adjusted his game early on, cause just like Barkley mentioned way back (if it was him), I always thought Wade played wild and reckless, and his decline would happen sooner than most. I feel the same about Derrick Rose too.

 

[knightngale]

What do you expect? The refs are not gifting him free throws anymore. Same thing will happen to Lebron.

Steroirds and Refs can only taka you so far.

 

[ohmygosher]

But really tho.

@ myself.

My bad man. That went completely over my head.

 

[jaeevolution]

So many times during those clips I was just :x

 

[spottieottie305]

How exactly is Dwade outplaying Mayo? He's shooting better than Wade from the field, from the 3, and is scoring at a higher clip than him. Its clear you are bias and not looking at things from an honest perspective. The fact that you legitimately think D wade is outplaying OJ right now says all I need to know.
Harden...Same thing.
D Wade is not a top player in this league anymore. More people will tell you that he isn't than he is. He's "good" right now, that's it. He isn't great, he isn't a superstar talent anymore, he's just a "good" player.

Your post in completely devoid of facts and you are saying I am being biased. Lets look at some stats shall we.

D. Wade
Games Played 14
Average Minutes Played 33.6
Points Per Game 19.4
Rebounds Per Game 3.9
Assist Per Game 4.5
Steals Per Game 1.2
Blocks Per Game 0.6
TO Per Game 2.3
Efficiency 17.9
Shooting %[COLOR=#red] 47.3[/COLOR]

O. Mayo
Games Played 19
Average Minutes Played 34.8
Points Per Game 19.8
Rebounds Per Game 3.6
Assist Per Game 3.5
Steals Per Game 0.8
Blocks Per Game 0.3
TO Per Game 2.6
Efficiency 17.0
Shooting % [COLOR=#red]47.3[/COLOR]

As you can clearly see D Wade outperforms Mayo in every major statistical category except for Points Per Game. Keep in mind he's doing this while being a secondary player on his team with 4 legitimate scoring options. You say OJ Mayo is out shooting Wade, yet their shooting percentage is identical.

The only 2 SG's out there with better stats are James Harden and Kobe Bryant. Both play in the Western Conference and are the primary scoring options for their teams. I'll concede Kobe, but Wade is just as good as or better the Harden right now.

At the end of the day you are completely wrong. Wade is still an elite player. YOUR bias clearly is fogging your brain. Its not that hard to comprehend my dude.

*stats courtesy of http://www.hoopstats.com

 

[ill steelo]

Sure throwing Ben Gordon in there was a bit extreme but you keep taking one thing out of what I said and harping on that, overlooking the point of it completely.

You talking about this point?

D Wade probably would be looked at as your everyday, a dime a dozen, combo guard had he not got with Shaq, and later Lebron.

I can't even take this point seriously. I'm beginning to think you're trolling.

 

[rockstar]

D-Wade's stats are undeniable as SpottieOttie305 proved. He's a top 3 SG in the NBA, he deserves respect.

 

[onetrust]

Wade's my dude and I think he'll be fine. You guys are just panicking right now. He's not playing like his usual self but I'm not worried. Still early in the season.