Originally Posted by
Infyrno23
Originally Posted by
Jonnny25
Originally Posted by
Infyrno23
Originally Posted by
Jonnny25
that's because one is a willing passer, the other isnt. one demands a trade, one trusts his teammates 100% of the time.
i'm not sure if skill makes you the best...gasol is more skilled than dwight, so are you guys saying gasol is better?
One has a major strength in scoring... the other has a major strength in passing, (doing the opposite hurts their teams respectfully)
One wants to win and was pissed the team hadnt fulfilled their promise to build a championship contender, thus asking for a trade, to a team that can win championships
the other, strong armed his team's management into making trades and signing free agents that HE wants, and then he eventually will leave them this summer......
and yes Gasol is better than Dwight Howard.... (was that a legitimate question or were you just hypothetically speaking?)
The one with the major strength in passing also has a major strength in scoring too. When Lebron scores, he doesnt hurt his team, he helps them because they NEED him to. Kobe wants to win so he asked for a trade...... but wasn't he teammates with Shaq and then Kobe wanted to be "the man"???
How did Lebron strong arm his team's management? Lebron has been with the team for 7 years, what moves have they made that made you think "he can be a #2 to Lebron and help him win a championship". (getting a bum from Milwaukee that scores 17 points a game, can't defend or pass does not count).
You really think Gasol is better than Howard? Howard doesnt have offensive game, but that guy can turn any franchise into a winner and a contender. If you started a franchise you got #1 Lebron, #2 Howard... Gasol will never be a franchise player. So having more skill DOESNT mean youre better
Kobe's problem with Shaq was he came into the season out of shape and waited to the playoffs to turn it up (similar to Rasheed Wallace, Also Phil Jackson complained about Shaq's pre-season conditioning) Kobe wanted to be the #1 while Shaq played #2, because it was obvious who was getting better and who was gettign worse.... Shaq even admitted that he let his ego block him from seeing that point, as he played the same role to D Wade in Miami and won a ring. and also it wasnt Kobe that got Shaq out of LA, it was Buss.... and in the long run, he was right... look at Shaq now and look at what we have because of the Shaq trade (Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Jordan Farmar, Shannon Brown, Adam Morrison)
Lebron had his hand in EVERY trade or free agent signing in Cleveland...the Cavs are so scared of Lebron leaving that they made GM moves to "Make him happy" Lebron WANTED Antwan Jamison, he Wanted Moe Williams, he WANTED them to sign Varejo back (Horrible contract) he wanted them to get Shaq, Lebron was playing Co-GM....
Dwight Howard & Pau Gasol, there is no comparison who is the BETTER player.
Basketball is a team sport of some sorts, so the player you start your franchise with determines the pieces you put around him, which is why Dwight's Teams are winning, the have ALL OFFENSE around him, to make up for his lack of O-game,
just pure asking.... who is a better BASKETBALL PLAYER Gasol >>>>>> Howard, & Kobe > Lebron
just off pure basketball skill, and just being able to play the GAME, all the other variables are trivial.... the bare basic is who is a better player...
So who's ego got in the way if Kobe was the one that wanted to be #1? It doesnt matter if Shaq was declining, if i remember correctly, Shaq was dominating against the Pistons in the Finals and it was Kobe's ego that got in the way. The Pistons Finals matchup was one championship Kobe cost them, and it's arguable that they wouldve won at least 2 IF Kobe didn't want to be the #1 guy. Kobe has won 1-2 championships since being the #1 on a team, but it took some luck getting Gasol. You can say the trade worked out well, but the Lakers are just trying to win back championships that they wouldve won if Kobe wanted to stay as #2 to Shaq. Buss got Shaq out of LA probably because Kobe wanted to be #1. Kobe was pissed at the team for not getting better players, but he is the one that wanted to win ON HIS TERMS. He wanted help, but he had to be the man.
Maybe Lebron was apart of the decision making, but don't most franchise players have a say in that? The Cavs didn't make enough moves. You can't deny that they have ONE great player playing alongside him in his 7 years. Demanding a trade is strong arming your team's management.
Gasol is more skilled, but NOT a better basketball player. 100/100 times a GM takes Dwight over Gasol. Wouldnt you think the GMs want the better basketball player? In the Olympics, i would rather have Gasol, hell even Bosh instead of Dwight. But in the NBA, Dwight makes a bigger difference on teams, so he's the better player. It's easier to build around Dwight than it is to Gasol.
